S-T Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 I am not sure I have ever watched Mad Love all the way through and WOW is it dark. I can’t believe some of the stuff they got away with. Having Harley blame herself for not getting the joke is horrifying because it mirrors how abusers manipulate their victims. While this episode is a critical part of the history of Harley Quinn’s character but I think the lasting legacy is overly toxic. In the decades since too many interpretations have almost glorified domestic violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 I feel the recent turnaround with her character has moved away from that in a big way. Like originally, Harley's education wasn't anything noteworthy. The comic straight said that she slept her way through school and was only working at Arkham to get rich and famous. The current animated show depicts her past self as a complete professional who sees the Joker for what he is the whole time and cares for the well-being of the inmates. Well, Ivy. Which I had a problem with as there was a scene where Ivy was tearing guys apart with her vines, but when a guard used a flamethrower to get past them and subdue her, Harley yelled at him for abuse. That super-didn't play. Bottom line, I think the discussion of how toxic the Joker and Harley's relationship has been more public and frequent in recent years, and as a result the character has been put over, sometimes aggressively, into the good camp where her abuse produces a heroic Harley instead of an equally criminally insane one. I liked how the BOP movie did it, as it kept Harley's character funny and silly while still realistically going through Joker withdrawals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Donomark said: Like originally, Harley's education wasn't anything noteworthy. The comic straight said that she slept her way through school Wow. I didn't know about that, and it is bad. Demeans the character. 2 hours ago, Donomark said: The current animated show depicts her past self as a complete professional who sees the Joker for what he is the whole time and cares for the well-being of the inmates. I think they did that in Mad Love, too, because she had great compassion for the Joker due to his fictitious sob stories about his life and his abusive father. Mad Love also plays into Joker's past being multiple choice, which was done well in The Dark Knight. 2 hours ago, Donomark said: Bottom line, I think the discussion of how toxic the Joker and Harley's relationship has been more public and frequent in recent years, and as a result the character has been put over, sometimes aggressively, into the good camp where her abuse produces a heroic Harley instead of an equally criminally insane one. I think the Suicide Squad movie glorified the domestic violence aspect a too much. Maybe I'm being overly touchy about this, but I know people who have been abused mentally and physically, and am really uncomfortable with any positive light on the relationship between Joker and Harley Quinn. That's probably unfair, I admit, and I am allowing real world issues to color my perception of the storylines I have seen. But it's difficult to objectively approach something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Javicia Leslie is taking the lead on Batwoman. She'll play Ryan Wilder / Batwoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Y'know what, I like it. We still have a Queer Actress in the part and another show on The CW that is anchored by a person of color. I am pretty excited to see what they do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Though I've not seen Batwoman, this is a great move on the part of the production team and I am excited to see how she does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 13 hours ago, The Master said: Though I've not seen Batwoman Think "American McGee's Batman '66". You will like it. I'm not familiar with the actor but if I'm being 100% honest I won't miss Rose all that much. This opens the show up to some new avenues to go down and I'm here for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 This fall, DC is releasing DC Showcase - Batman: Death in the Family, an interactive prequel to Batman: Under the Hood. This looks very interesting, and it'll give me an excuse to revisit my favorite DC animated movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted July 29, 2020 Report Share Posted July 29, 2020 Yeahhh, this looks dope and interesting. UtRH is easily their best comic book adapted movie and this seems like a fun, fresh revisit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 John Cena's character in Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, is getting a spin-off series on HBO Max. James Gunn is writing and directing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Aww! I was looking forward to watching John Cena comically dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 It is a prequel so that's still a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Molly Posted September 23, 2020 Report Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cena as a comically inept, hyper violent gun toting Captain America analog? Sign me the fuck up. Cena has fantastic comedic timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Color me surprised. How much has Peacemaker even been in comics to warrant his own show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 24, 2020 Report Share Posted September 24, 2020 Pretty sure he's the Charlton character that was adapted into Comedian for Watchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Aldis Hodge is in talks to play Hawkman in Black Adam. I will be over the moon if this comes to pass. He was excellent in The Invisible Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 First image of Javicia Leslie in her Batwoman mask and wig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Missy Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 From @The Master's Twitter: "What is the best comic book adaptation / movie pre-Batman Begins?" Mask of the Phantasm. (The quote BB Code seems to have stopped working.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 Via various tweets, New Gods writer / director Ava DuVernay has confirmed DC / WB is heading in a different direction with the characters. No news from DC / WB though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 I think I'd prefer it if it was done as an HBO Max show, if they're going for Space Game of Thrones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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