Dread Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 21 hours ago, CaptainAmerica2011 said: I'm sure you have posted it, but care to share your list? I disagree with thinking most of them are bad, but strongly respect your opinion so I am curious. Off the dome: GOTG Thor Ragnarok Avengers: Infinity War GOTG vol 2 Iron Man CA: Winter Soldier Spiderman: Homecoming Black Panther CA: First Avenger Thor: Dark World Everything else is trash, IMO 14 hours ago, Dan said: Loved it, can't wait to see it again and drag Wendee to it. One big question I had: Reveal hidden contents Where the hell is the Valkyrie (and, to some extent, Korg)? If she dies on the Asgardian ship, that sucks, but to not even mention her? I had the same question. The opening was pretty jarring overall, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Okay, while I love lots of stuff about it, here’s my biggest issue, creatively (beyond Dan’s excellent point.) So, the big criticism of Thanos is that he’s a Darkseid ripoff. So you change the character, smart. ... You make him into Purple Ra’s Al Ghul? Right down to the tenuous relationship with the daughter? Like, I think the portrayal is great and Gamora’s death is shocking. But, it’s still just Ra’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Preston said: Okay, while I love lots of stuff about it, here’s my biggest issue, creatively (beyond Dan’s excellent point.) Hide contents So, the big criticism of Thanos is that he’s a Darkseid ripoff. So you change the character, smart. ... You make him into Purple Ra’s Al Ghul? Right down to the tenuous relationship with the daughter? Like, I think the portrayal is great and Gamora’s death is shocking. But, it’s still just Ra’s. Ehhh...that's a tenuous connection. Spoiler Ra's thing is that he wants Talia to get with someone who's just like him, and until that day comes serve him utterly and without fail (which she routinely fails to do by betraying him whenever Batman shows up). Thanos seemed perfectly content to let Gamora be Gamora up until the day he decided to get off his chair and find the Infinity Gems. And plenty of villains who destroy the world or universe think they're doing the right thing. Ra's wasn't the first and won't be the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjoyadet Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Yeah, I definitely was blown away by Thanos: the Hand of Fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Donomark said: Ehhh...that's a tenuous connection. Hide contents Ra's thing is that he wants Talia to get with someone who's just like him, and until that day comes serve him utterly and without fail (which she routinely fails to do by betraying him whenever Batman shows up). Thanos seemed perfectly content to let Gamora be Gamora up until the day he decided to get off his chair and find the Infinity Gems. And plenty of villains who destroy the world or universe think they're doing the right thing. Ra's wasn't the first and won't be the last. ”The universe/earth has finite resources. I need to kill half the population.” I’m pretty sure that Ra’s has had that plan a dozen times. And like I said, I dig it. But it’s still super derivative. EDIT: And Quill’s willingness to kill Gamora to save the universe makes him EXACTLY like Thanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan-dub Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Wow. I will add this : Spoiler Tom Holland's Spiderman is my favourite Spiderman. I'm very much a layman but he's clearly established as a young incarnation who is still star-struck by the likes of Ironman so he falls into the pecking order. He's only had one solo film to show any development and has clear potential to grow out if the 'kid' role having earned more respect from his contemporaries. For now he's the nervous yet determined spunky kid to root for. His disintegration hit me the hardest. Him and Groot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, Pan-dub said: Wow. I will add this : Hide contents Tom Holland's Spiderman is my favourite Spiderman. I'm very much a layman but he's clearly established as a young incarnation who is still star-struck by the likes of Ironman so he falls into the pecking order. He's only had one solo film to show any development and has clear potential to grow out if the 'kid' role having earned more respect from his contemporaries. For now he's the nervous yet determined spunky kid to root for. His disintegration hit me the hardest. Him and Groot. Agreed on all accounts. His thing was the only time I got a little misty-eyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainAmerica2011 Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Spoiler Something about a kid clutching to someone he trusts and begging "I don't want to go". How does it not give you the feels. Then he apologizes. I love Spider-Man. Did anyone get the sense they were doing an homage to Spider-Man's Maximum Spider from the fighting games when he was leaping out of portals to hit Thanos? Or just me. Was Wanda's powers somehow influenced by the Reality Stone? I know they used the Mind Stone on the twins, but her powers effects are always red. And come to think of it Quicksilver's powers had a blue hint, so I'm thinking Space Stone. Which would make sense based on how their powers work I.E. speed for the space and Wanda's reality warping abilities. Does anybody think we might get Lady Death still, and that was who little Gamora was representing at the end. Such a fun movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 The more I think about it, the more I understand that while the streamlined morality of Thanos' plan, it would still be cooler if he did it all for love. That would set him apart from every other villain, and it's part of why the comic series was so impactful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I'm gonna rain on the parade here, with a mega plot hole. Spoiler Thanos eventually gathers all of the Infinity Stones into the Infinity Gauntlet. He has unlimited power and he can rewrite reality on a whim. So why doesn't he just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make sure that there are enough resources for everyone forever? If "saving the universe" from overpopulation was Thanos' goal, the entire movie should be over in five minutes, because the Avengers should be helping him. He assembles the Infinity Gauntlet with the help of the heroes, solves the Universal Population Bomb, and everybody lives happily ever after. No movie! I liked it, but this bugged me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 I can just picture it: Thanos in his cabin as he watches the sunrise. Just after the credits hit. He’s still there, the slightest smirk on his face, pride and sadness rolling off of him. Slowly it dawns on him. He could have just created infinite resources. His smirk fades. His posture falls. He places his head in his huge tired hands. ... ... ... ”Fuck me...” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 Also: The CGI here (and on Korg in Thor: Ragnarok, if I’m being honest) has me really excited for Marvel Studios’ Thing. If we ever get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 5/2/2018 at 1:01 AM, CaptainAmerica2011 said: Hide contents Something about a kid clutching to someone he trusts and begging "I don't want to go". How does it not give you the feels. Then he apologizes. I love Spider-Man. Did anyone get the sense they were doing an homage to Spider-Man's Maximum Spider from the fighting games when he was leaping out of portals to hit Thanos? Or just me. HELL YEA I DID! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan-dub Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 6 hours ago, S-T said: I'm gonna rain on the parade here, with a mega plot hole. Hide contents He has unlimited power and he can rewrite reality on a whim. So why doesn't he just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make sure that there are enough resources for everyone forever? Spoiler 1) It was my impression that the reality stone only changed the perception of reality on a temporary basis (Knowhere reverted to being battle-damaged and the Guardians overcame being weirdly segmented). Therefore this might not have a long-lasting effect. 2) Is the ability of the combined stones ever explained, apart from their ability to destroy? It does seem reasonable that they could be used to create things, but doesn't seem to be a given. 3) This is what he's been doing for years - 50% genocide around the cosmos. Why change his ways now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Spoiler Going with the idea that the only thing being altered by the Reality Stone is the perception of reality, what does that mean for Star-Lord shooting Gamora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan-dub Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Spoiler For that moment the gun shot bubbles. The point is that after he left it reverted back to being a gun. If Thanos is meant to conjure up resources for the entire universe will he have to concentrate really hard on keeping them real forever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 8:52 PM, S-T said: I'm gonna rain on the parade here, with a mega plot hole. Hide contents Thanos eventually gathers all of the Infinity Stones into the Infinity Gauntlet. He has unlimited power and he can rewrite reality on a whim. So why doesn't he just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make sure that there are enough resources for everyone forever? If "saving the universe" from overpopulation was Thanos' goal, the entire movie should be over in five minutes, because the Avengers should be helping him. He assembles the Infinity Gauntlet with the help of the heroes, solves the Universal Population Bomb, and everybody lives happily ever after. No movie! I liked it, but this bugged me. Thanos isn't rationale. Terrible real world comparison coming up, but the Unibomber was a legitimately brilliant man who's big idea to stop the encroachment of technology in society was to mail pipe bombs to IBM executives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I'm going to counter with: don't think too much about it. You can ruin every Marvel movie with about 15 minutes of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Saw it a second time, this time with Shana, and it was even better. Two things: Spoiler When Doctor Strange revealed the real Time Stone to Thanos, he made the same gesture as Loki when he revealed the Tesseract to Thanos. Thanos then said, "No tricks," which Strange repeated. And earlier in the movie, Loki went out of his way to call himself the Trickster God to Thanos. Loki probably wasn't disguised as Strange, but those things stuck out to me this time around. When Black Panther faded into dust (or "feathers" as Shana calls it), one dude in the audience clapped. Now I can't say for certain he was white and has a lot of starched, bleached robes in his closet, but when you only clap at one death and it's Black Panther's, hmm, that's not a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Someone on Twitter asked James Gunn... Spoiler ... what Groot Jr. said to Rocket just before he faded away. Gunn replied with one word: "Dad." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 23 hours ago, The Master said: Hide contents When Black Panther faded into dust (or "feathers" as Shana calls it), one dude in the audience clapped. Now I can't say for certain he was white and has a lot of starched, bleached robes in his closet, but when you only clap at one death and it's Black Panther's, hmm, that's not a good look. Perhaps the clapping dude thought that the character in question was overexposed and being shoved down everyone's throats. Kind of like how a lot of WWE fans react to Roman Reigns - or how some comic fans react to Wolverine. I think you're being unfairly judgmental. You don't know the guy. I actually giggled at the death of a particular character because it was so ridiculously overdone and nobody thinks for a second that he is really dead. Especially when the actor playing that character is signed on for more upcoming movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 You know, I was gonna let that slide but, no. The dude clapped at the death of the most prominent black superhero in the movie and no one else. That’s a shitty, racist thing and you defending it is pretty messed up. Also, who claps at movies anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Hard agree with Preston here. Just... no. Solid advice for life: look at what you type before you hit reply. Ask yourself: "Does this make me sound like a dick?" If you can construe that it does, rethink your approach. Unless you're being a troll. In that case, go to 4Chan or Reddit instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Also, overexposed/shoved down throats my ass. The character in question has had about as much screen time as Fucking Ant-Man. People like him because he’s unique and good. It’s not Marvel selling tickets, it’s people buying them. Your whole argument is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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