Missy Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 And go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batguy10 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Voting for "Thor: Ragnarok" because I enjoy it more than "IM2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Even though Ragnarok is cynical as shit, it’s first act is IMO the peak of Thor action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Iron Man 2 has some interesting ideas, does a decent job developing Tony, and has a version of the Silver Centurion armor, but Thor: Ragnarok is easily one of the best MCU films to date. It's fun, has epic stakes, does more for The Hulk than his own movie, introduces the badass that is Valkyrie, continues to really dig in deep to Thor's psyche, and, of course: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, The Master said: Thor: Ragnarok is easily one of the best MCU films to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 But as mentioned elsewhere, I had to vote it over Iron Man 2. This will certainly be the last time, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Ragnarok is one of the best MCU films. Period. I agree with Mike on that one. IM2 goes down like a very hard poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pan-dub Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, slothian said: Up until my last rewatch I was with you but going into Ragnarok knowing what to expect made its aping of GOTG much more tolerable and I really enjoyed it. IM2 gets a lot of shit - it's pretty poor but there are some decent moments in amongst the bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 I'm not going to spend time defending Thor Ragnarok when this round is open and shut so easily. I'll save that for next round when it has actual competition. My vote is going where it's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted July 31, 2020 Report Share Posted July 31, 2020 I think my opinion of IM2 and Ragnarok might be closer than most, but still voting for Thor and it isn't that close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Thor, because I'm not a fucking psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 An interesting match-up would be Ragnarok against either of the Guardians movies, since they're made from the same think-street of irreverent wise-assery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I still can't decide if Ragnarok's humor gets in the way of the critique of imperialism, or if it enhances the piss-take. Like that bit from Korg at the end saying that Asgard will be rebuilt then saying never mind as it gets wrecked to nothingness, it didn't feel like an accident it came from the director himself. But it still feels so much like the typical Marvel humor. Either way, it's still Ragnarok that's superior, even if I did enjoy IM2 in the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 12 hours ago, Donomark said: An interesting match-up would be Ragnarok against either of the Guardians movies, since they're made from the same think-street of irreverent wise-assery. Except the Guardians movies do tone better. And humour. And soundtrack usage. And direction. And pacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 11:01 PM, Davedevil said: I still can't decide if Ragnarok's humor gets in the way of the critique of imperialism, or if it enhances the piss-take. Like that bit from Korg at the end saying that Asgard will be rebuilt then saying never mind as it gets wrecked to nothingness, it didn't feel like an accident it came from the director himself. But it still feels so much like the typical Marvel humor. Either way, it's still Ragnarok that's superior, even if I did enjoy IM2 in the cinema. I don't buy into much of the pats on the back people give Ragnarok for critiquing imperialism as much as it does, on the basis that it doesn't really seem to change much. T'Challa got a scene where he confronted his father for his past sins which lead to turmoil in the present. Odin gets to have both the shady background and the heavenly spirit image while Thor seemed to not give a shit about learning anything he learned of his dad. Like, yeah, Odin was a shit, with Hella conquered and killed untold billions of people and from those crimes created Asgard, but it's still awesome that he encourages Thor at the end. Like, how sincere is Waititi's inclusion of that thread, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I don't think you can lay any of the story beats specifically at Waititi's feet as he was solely the director and has no official hand in the screenplay. That's not to say he doesn't have input, but I think you have to divorce the man from the critical reading of this movie. Ugh, the "critical reading of Thor: Ragnarok" - tragic occurences does not equal depth. God, I can't wait to vote against this garbage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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