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I've got to say, I'm not going to go into this movie saying "This is a remake of a classic, it will be shit! Where's Kevin Bacon!" I'm going to go in open minded, probably cause I'm not a big fan of the originals and who knows, by the looks of the trailer, it will be alright.

Before I forget how dare they remake a classic, it will be shit! Where's Kevin Bacon!

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No, it won't be shit because they're remaking a classic.

It will be shit because it's Michael fucking Bay remaking a classic and changing everything about the character that made him unique.

And I don't think anyone is asking for Kevin Bacon here.

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Well, it really all depends on how much he's going to change the source material.

Dammit I was asking for Kevin Bacon. That man showed the world first hand how much damage a pen through the neck could truly do!

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And I don't think anyone is asking for Kevin Bacon here.

I'm asking for Kevin Bacon. I'm always asking. Thats why he doesn't take my calls anymore.

I'm looking forward to this. I'll never understand why people complain about these reboots or re imaginings. If you don't want to see it you don't have to, but if its never made then it never has a chance to be worth seeing. Is the Friday the 13th legacy too sacred to be tarnished? This isn't a 4th Godfather film.

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Godfather's overrated as shit anyway. I don't think that fans instantly lose the right to complain about something simply because they have the choice not to see it. If this reboot makes money (which it will) then the old guard for Friday and Jason is fucked, meaning... we never get that Jason X sequel, in all likelyhood never get that Freddy vs Jason sequel, and we have Michael Bay turning a horror icon into another generic jump cut slasher.

To answer Suave, this is what they're changing so far.

- Starts with the hockey mask. No potato sack.

- It's him, not his mother, doing the killings, which fucks a lot of it up. Jason was out for revenge because they killed his mother, not because they made fun of him and let him drown.

- He still has the mentally challenged look, but he's somehow going to be outsmarting people.

- He's fucking running. Zombie or not, it's something he doesn't do.

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And I don't think anyone is asking for Kevin Bacon here.

I'm asking for Kevin Bacon. I'm always asking. Thats why he doesn't take my calls anymore.

I'm looking forward to this. I'll never understand why people complain about these reboots or re imaginings. If you don't want to see it you don't have to, but if its never made then it never has a chance to be worth seeing. Is the Friday the 13th legacy too sacred to be tarnished? This isn't a 4th Godfather film.

Off topic slightly but how many remakes have truly worked?

The series would need a reboot after the last two in the series were more comedy than actual horrors. Though I enjoyed them.

Stavros i have Mr Bacons private number........he gave it to me for returning his cat.....who I may have kidnapped in the first place.

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It changes the character, but I like the running. Really, I'm quite tired of the lumbering villain who always catches up with his victims.

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- He's fucking running. Zombie or not, it's something he doesn't do.

Thats actually quite cool in my book. The giant walking wall of muscle serial killer should have been gone years ago, I'd much rather see a smaller, more agile, less supernatural Jason this time around. The concept for these sorts of films need to be tweaked to compete with the modern rival franchises and this won't happen unless an already established character undergoes some fundamental adjustments. Its scarier to be to have a Jason with speed and fire in his eyes rather than a mechanical 80's killer whose tired schtick we've already seen a hundred times.

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Starts with the hockey mask. No potato sack.

I agree, but at the same time, people who aren't fans wouldn't know about the sack and would only know Jason for the mask. Though it would be nice if for half the film he had the sack and it got set on fire and he stole another kids hockey mask, like in the originals.

It's him, not his mother, doing the killings, which fucks a lot of it up. Jason was out for revenge because they killed his mother, not because they made fun of him and let him drown.

Yeah, that was one of the greatest twist in the slasher genre. Remember Scream, everyone screamed Jason when the killer asked the girl that question. Though Mrs Voorhees will have to make a five minute scene at least. He does need a good reason to come after random kids though.

He still has the mentally challenged look, but he's somehow going to be outsmarting people.

But that would be alright, I mean him cutting the break lines of a car could work, but not Home Alone style booby traps, I'll say that.

He's fucking running. Zombie or not, it's something he doesn't do.

It would be a nice change of pace from the person turning around and him being their, plus if he does it once near the end, and through the rest of the movie, he just walks and the girl thinks she can out run him, it could work. But they gave away the running in the trailer so that's unfortunately out the window.

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That's more because everyone copied Jason. I'm not huge on everyone else doing it, but it's his MO.

Ha, that was Frankenstein's monster! Frankenstein's monster was the first to do the slow thing!

This is a big moment for me, I actually contradicted Dubs in a real situation.

I'm so happy :cry:

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Yeah, all those movies about Frankenstein's monster going around killing fornicating teenagers were real hits. And the thing it did when it showed up out of nowhere behind people? Groundbreaking stuff.

Oh wait... that didn't happen.

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- He's fucking running. Zombie or not, it's something he doesn't do.

Thats actually quite cool in my book. The giant walking wall of muscle serial killer should have been gone years ago, I'd much rather see a smaller, more agile, less supernatural Jason this time around. The concept for these sorts of films need to be tweaked to compete with the modern rival franchises and this won't happen unless an already established character undergoes some fundamental adjustments. Its scarier to be to have a Jason with speed and fire in his eyes rather than a mechanical 80's killer whose tired schtick we've already seen a hundred times.

Um. What rival franchises? Everything is torture porn or a remake of an older slasher now. Who is this highly kinetic killer that Jason needs to catch up to? Jigsaw? Yeah, that guy is greased lightning.

I agree, but at the same time, people who aren't fans wouldn't know about the sack and would only know Jason for the mask. Though it would be nice if for half the film he had the sack and it got set on fire and he stole another kids hockey mask, like in the originals.

People that aren't fans won't come to see this movie. Mainstream horror sucks for a reason right now.

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Yeah, all those movies about Frankenstein's monster going around killing fornicating teenagers were real hits. And the thing it did when it showed up out of nowhere behind people? Groundbreaking stuff.

Oh wait... that didn't happen.

You obviously never read my book

"How Frankenstein's monster goes around killing fornicating teenagers and how to make sure it's a real hit. Also don't forget the thing it did when it showed up out of nowhere behind people? Trust me, it will be groundbreaking stuff."

Publisher said the title may be a bit too long and that's why it didn't sell.

The way I read what you said was that Jason was the first person to do the slow killer who always catches up with his victims even though it seems impossible.

Oh and 1000! yay!

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I liken it to in video games, when Wolfenstein 3D came out. No one ever talked about first person shooters as "Wolfenstein 3D" clones. Then Doom came out, took elements of Wolf 3d, and became a hit, and everything after was a "Doom clone".

Wolfenstein 3D is Frankenstein's monster in this case.

Doom is Jason.

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No, because you completely missed my point.

I hate you Dubs

So to try and take a stab at what you were saying whatever truly created the genre is not the most recognisable thing by most and other slasher films were not copying the original groundwork that Frankensteins monster created, but they were going along the path that Jason and Friday made? Missed the point again didn't I?

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Now you're getting it.

OK. So what your saying is this film will fucking suck because they're changing everything and Michael Bay is a talentless hack who walked ass backwards into movies like The Rock?

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