Stavros Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dalton. Time Lord. Why is everyone complaining here? I thought the episode went some interesting ways, and yes the Master fell sideways into a doomsday plot and hijacked it but not every plan needs to be evident from the birth of stars until the end of days. Screw it, I liked this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Dalton. Time Lord. Why is everyone complaining here? I thought the episode went some interesting ways, and yes the Master fell sideways into a doomsday plot and hijacked it but not every plan needs to be evident from the birth of stars until the end of days. Screw it, I liked this. Dancing Master, that's all I liked. It was alright. The performances were good but it's not something I'd watch again. Exactly how I felt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Pardon me if these Matt Smith pictures have been linked to before, but it looks like... ... he has a new Sonic Screwdriver: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Isn't the first one going to blow up on him, the one Tennant has right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Missy Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Who are the two woman covering their faces at the end? I'm hoping one is... ... Susan (though I've always thought Donna might be Susan), and the other could be Romana I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Planet of the Dead - "Humans on buses, always blaming me." - I was tired of crazy psychic lady about 10 minutes in. - Oh fuck you. Christina was awesome until the kiss. Is there some sort of contractual mandate for female companions? - Fuck that ending while we're at it. Not off to a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The Waters of Mars I thought this was awesome, actually. Cool monster designs and some powerful moments. Totally made up for the previous story. Next up. The End of Time Part 1. Preparing myself for disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakob1978 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Who are the two woman covering their faces at the end? I'm hoping one is... ... Susan (though I've always thought Donna might be Susan), and the other could be Romana I suppose. One of them (the one on the right of the screen) is the woman seen tapping her finger in the next time bit (and seems to be some sort of prophet). I think the other one is a man...there's a scene of them from behind and that person has very broad shoulders here's a screencap under the spoiler There's a lot of speculation on various forums with some people convinved that the person has the same hairstyle as either Matt Smith, or Paul McGann lol...I've no idea though..could be anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The End of Time Part 1 What the hell? I was ready for disappointment but I liked it a lot. There were some flaws for sure; the effects shots were pretty awful and the brief "fight" really did nothing but prove that the writers are completely incapable of a good action scene, but all in all, I had fun. I guess that makes myself and Stavros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The End of Time Part 1 What the hell? I was ready for disappointment but I liked it a lot. There were some flaws for sure; the effects shots were pretty awful and the brief "fight" really did nothing but prove that the writers are completely incapable of a good action scene, but all in all, I had fun. I guess that makes myself and Stavros. Make that three. I thought there were some moments of good suspense. I really liked Ten's explanation of regeneration where he says it really is more like dieing than previously seen. It works, especially considering what he does in Journey's End with his severed hand. The scene with the Ood was kinda pointless outside of getting an explanation about why Queen Elizabeth considered the Doctor her mortal enemy. Overall, I don't consider it as bad as 42 or Daleks in Manhattan. It's mostly average and I'm going to reserve judgment until part 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 New Trailer for Part 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Paterson Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Wow, I'm actually quite sad that some of you guys really didn't like it. I thought it was rather marvellous myself! That Davies is such a clever clever man - I don't think anyone could have predicted what was going to happen in the last 5 minutes. It's insane, baffling, barmy and brilliant. Friday can't come quickly enough for me. I really hope y'all like part 2 better! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Wow, I'm actually quite sad that some of you guys really didn't like it. I thought it was rather marvellous myself! That Davies is such a clever clever man - I don't think anyone could have predicted what was going to happen in the last 5 minutes. It's insane, baffling, barmy and brilliant. Friday can't come quickly enough for me. I really hope y'all like part 2 better! Rich No need to cheerlead, young Paterson! I really like John Simm's Master so maybe I'm just disappointed about how he first gains superpowers and then becomes everyone in the world. I can't disagree with you about the ending though - that was pretty damn awesome. I just wish the stuff beforehand had been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 New Trailer for Part 2. That's a very effective trailer. Man, I still can't wait to see how all this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrick Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I thought there was just too much going on at once and none of it was particularly interesting. Agreed. The best part was the last five or ten minutes. This and "Waters of Mars" were both tedious to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Are there are a more divisive group of people in the world than Doctor Who fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I was just reading the cast list for the second part of The End of Time, and the very last person IMDB lists is... ... Midshipman Alonso Frame, from Voyage of the Damned. As much as I liked the character, I can't figure out how or why he'll return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 It is IMDB which at one point had Joan Collins playing The Rani. It's about as trustworthy as wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakob1978 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 he is in it, it's been confirmed at other places...hang on i'll see if i can find it. yeah, here's an interview with him (dealing with Being Human). http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/interviews/a191004/russell-tovey-being-human.html You've been confirmed as being on the cast list for the second Doctor Who Christmas special, airing on New Year's Day. How big a role do you play? "It's the same character that I played before and he pops in." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illogicology Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I know I'm like a page late but... Wouldn't Tennant's sonic screwdriver getting busted and Matt Smith getting a new one screw up continuity with Silence in the Library since River Song's scredwiver is clearly a modified version of 10's? Edit: make that two pages, I didn't think I'd hop onto a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 He could try out a new design, then switch back. She might find an old one in the TARDIS, and take a liking to it, so that's why 11 gives her 10's SS. There are plenty of ways around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I still think the River thing would be a contradiction if they went back to it. If anything, it's best to assume that all happened in the space between Waters of Mars and the End of Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I still think the River thing would be a contradiction if they went back to it. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I still think the River thing would be a contradiction if they went back to it. How so? For the story to work, she'd have to meet him as the 10th Doctor. She recognizes him as such and has to go through her journal to see what point in time he's at. She wouldn't have to do this if they'd met while he was in the body of the 11th, and she wouldn't instantly know who he was. If she shows up in an 11th Doctor story, then the whole thing becomes one giant paradox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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