JackFetch Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 This one isn't for kids. You'll figure that out when Doomsday starts killing people. Or maybe when Doomsday punches Superman and his blood splatters on Lois. Make sure you see this one. The part with Kevin Smith is funny as hell if you know the story behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I didn't know this was out already until the other day when I saw the commercial. I have to pick this up, like, yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I'll keep spoilers hidden for a little while yet. My biggest gripe is that Doomsday is killed before the halfway point of the movie. Why call it Superman:Doomsday when he wasn't the main focus of the story? Lex is evil as hell in this one, and I love it. When he killed his assistant, I was like fuck yeah! I don't like that they basically said Superman is immortal. Lois and Supes do the nasty at the beginning of the movie. At that point he hadn't told her he was Clark Kent. I thought that was outside his character. I like that they brought real life into it with Clark going to Afghanistan to cover the war, but it was a cheap way out of explaining Clark's disappearance after Superman died. Lazy writing ftw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I liked this one a lot, don't worry I'll leave the spoilers for later, but I did have a few issues. The animation was the old JLU stuff exactly, but the new character models, Lex, Supes and Lois in partcular, looked out of place as a result. Superman's cheecks were all messed up, like a much older version of the JLU one, Lex was much much slimmer and Lois, well, she seemed like a different woman altogether. Superman and Lex were both rooted in the old shows, Lois was a complete makeover. I understand that this particular tale needed to be stand alone from the old series and thus new model would help that differentiation, but the updates in most cases were so damn close it was hard not to compare. Doomsday was near-identical excepting the teeth. Lastly, I had to point out that there was an insane amount of city-bound destruction in this film and needlessly so. Supes had many oppertunities to move these brawls to safer less populated areas and yet he seemed to prefer smashing his opponant through many presumably occupied buildings. My final gripe is that the clone Superman is hounded for his willingness to kill, but in the end the real Superman kills him. Yes he was under fire but the end result is still one dead villian. You can't tell me he didn't think this through, he knew he was killing the clone. I actually sympathise greatly with the clone, he reacted just as many put in that position might. Superman could have saved the life of that 4 year old girl if only he had n't saved Toyman when he destroyed the spider. The execution of Toyman was just rectifieing that mistake. In fact it wasn't until they tried to come after Superman that he really did anything truly unreasonable. Was his menacing turn supposed to be when he was stroking a cat and educating its owner on proper care? Clone Supes was a great man. In addition I severely question the decision to send the army after the rogue supes. They all knew they were toast and yet some higher-up took their lives for granted and sent them right on in. All that being said, I heartily approved of all the more adult themes involved in this story, it certainly helped set it apart from the old series. Bring on Teen Titans: The Judas Contract and Justice League: The New Frontier. I hope these for the first of many stand alone films covering the best stories from the comics. They have to do a Batman tale next. Year one, DKR or Hush would top my list. Hush in particular would be interesting since it covers so much of Bat's rogues' gallery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I agree about the cheeks being messed up. it was distracting. They made him look like an old man. One thing I don't understand is I know Doomsday was in JL, but they gave him a different origin in this one. If they do a Batman, I imagine it will be a variation of Knightfall. Especially if this one sells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I agree about the cheeks being messed up. it was distracting. They made him look like an old man. One thing I don't understand is I know Doomsday was in JL, but they gave him a different origin in this one. If they do a Batman, I imagine it will be a variation of Knightfall. Especially if this one sells. It was a totally new continuity, this isn't from the JLA-verse. This origin was closer to the original one, Doomsday was just randomly released on earth instead of being a messed-up Superman clone. Firstly this aids new viewers (they don't have to understand who or what Doomsday is) and secondly Doomsday being a clone might be too much of one thing in this story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I've got this in my Netflix queue. I think I am going to move it to the top spot now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mxyzptlk Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Great animation but a pretty weak plot make for a decent movie made infinitely better because of 'The New Frontier' preview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Justice League: The New Frontier Sweet promo, the animation is spot on. I'll have to go back and read these books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mull Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Hated the voice actor for Lois Lane, and also the lines on Supermans cheeks that made him look 20 years older for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hated the voice actor for Lois Lane, and also the lines on Supermans cheeks that made him look 20 years older for some reason. That would be Anne Heche, and yes, she was horrible. The whole movie was a huge disappointment. So much so that I think it's going to be a Tirades subject in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 The whole movie was a huge disappointment. So much so that I think it's going to be a Tirades subject in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 The whole movie was a huge disappointment. So much so that I think it's going to be a Tirades subject in the near future. Is that a shocked reaction of "I haven't seen it yet, but can it really be that bad?" or a shocked reaction of "Come on, James, it wasn't that bad." ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I haven't seen it yet, so I'm surprised to hear that it's that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I haven't seen it yet, so I'm surprised to hear that it's that bad. Well, as they say, that's just one man's opinion. I'm sure others loved it, and many more just felt, "Meh." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I didn't love it, but it wasn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I would rather they have done the actual comic like it was presented, it wasn't bad, but I really expected more from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I've only watched about five minutes of this so far, but James is right: Anne Heche talks way too fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I cannot believe the voice directors didn't tell her to slow down. The animators matching the lip-synching to her words must have had carpal-tunnel when the movie was finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 The Lex Luthor scenes were definately the high points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annericelover Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Blu-Ray release features a 2nd disc http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Superman-...y-Blu-ray/10184 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 This movie is available for streaming at Netflix for those that haven't seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylerQ91 Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 I like the movie much more than Batman: Gotham Knight (which was great in parts but overall meh). I ALSO think Heche was a terrible Lois. On my topic though, cover art is out for the Two Disc Special Edition DVD is out. http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Superman-...l-Edition/10409 It seems to be the just old cover in gold. I'm kind of pissed off about this re-release when they could have just put on more fun crap before. It was not that long ago that the 'old' DVD came out, so I think this had to have been in the pipeline for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Superman-...l-Edition/10409 holy crap I bought this DVD when it first came out just because I'm a DCAU Fan and love almost everything Bruce Timm & Co do but I found the above story on tvshowsondvd.com this afternoon why the hell are they rereleasing it as a 2 Disc Set???? This is crazy if they were going to do a "special edition" they should have released it along with the 1 disc edition I am a completionist when it comes to Bruce Timm related material. However this is just sad!!!!!! I REFUSE to buy this movie again unless it has like 20hrs ofd bonus features..... highly unlikely I know but damn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 ok ok I know in my last post on here I said I wasn't buying the NEW Superman Doomsday 2 Disc Special Edition but TvShowsOnDVD just posted the article of what the extra and NEW features would be and there's a sneek peek at Wonder Woman (no pun intended) below is the link to their story http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Superman-...y-Blu-ray/10417 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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