SuaveStar Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 So very crap bookends from what i remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Only three more episodes of the podcast to go until......................Return Of The Joker!!!!!! You guys rock I'm so glad this podcast is out there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Only three more episodes of the podcast to go until......................Return Of The Joker!!!!!! You guys rock I'm so glad this podcast is out there!!! Mike (Yoda), In your BTAS coverage, You reviewed MAsk of the Phantasam inbetween Season 1 and season 2 (That being episode 14) rightfully, Because as you said "Its where is falls". Return of the Joker was made between the first and second of batman beyond, Why are you covering it at the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Although I'm not going to speak for the overlord of E-2 but I believe it was said in one of the past WFP's the reason why they are saving it for the end is because it'll be a total gush fest LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mike (Yoda), In your BTAS coverage, You reviewed MAsk of the Phantasam inbetween Season 1 and season 2 (That being episode 14) rightfully, Because as you said "Its where is falls". Return of the Joker was made between the first and second of batman beyond, Why are you covering it at the end? Due to the events of the movie, Terry truly becomes Batman. He's vanquished the Joker, and stepped out of Bruce's shadow. For me, that was Terry's story arc: going from punk kid to the hero of Gotham City. Since it's over, it seems like the best way to end our Batman Beyond discussion. Also, I didn't realize it was made during the lifespan of the show. For some reason I thought it was produced after it ended. So though I screwed up the order, it doesn't feel out of place thanks to what I wrote above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Mike (Yoda), In your BTAS coverage, You reviewed MAsk of the Phantasam inbetween Season 1 and season 2 (That being episode 14) rightfully, Because as you said "Its where is falls". Return of the Joker was made between the first and second of batman beyond, Why are you covering it at the end? Due to the events of the movie, Terry truly becomes Batman. He's vanquished the Joker, and stepped out of Bruce's shadow. For me, that was Terry's story arc: going from punk kid to the hero of Gotham City. Since it's over, it seems like the best way to end our Batman Beyond discussion. Also, I didn't realize it was made during the lifespan of the show. For some reason I thought it was produced after it ended. So though I screwed up the order, it doesn't feel out of place thanks to what I wrote above. I agree completely mike and even Bruce Timm says in the commentary that they pulled Curt Geda off the TV show to do the direct to DVD movie so yeah it was made in the course of the TV show..... just goes to show ya how mutlitalented they are and overworked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Damnit I woke up this morning feeling sick and thinking it was Wednesday, but noooo it's only fuckin Tuesday..... and i was sooo looking forward to Episode 47 oh well I'll have to wait 24 more hours no big deal. I never did start that WFP Marathon with watching all the DVD's at the same time but I will eventually. Glad to see WFP is back this week but I still ask: IS IT WEDNESDAY YET?: THE WFP EDITION The episodes will be: Kings Rasom Betrayal Out Of The Past Speak No Evil Inqueling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePD Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 So, I'm actually giddy over WFP finally getting to Return of the Joker. Hearing the guys commenting on what is, in my opinion at least, one of the BEST Joker stories (Up the with The Killing Joke/Death in the Family and Dark Knight). No more of the darkly humorous Joker of B:TAS and Gotham Knights. The Joker we see in Return of the Joker is the sick twisted sociopathic fuck that Alan Moore gave us....and I couldn't be happier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 So, I'm actually giddy over WFP finally getting to Return of the Joker. Hearing the guys commenting on what is, in my opinion at least, one of the BEST Joker stories (Up the with The Killing Joke/Death in the Family and Dark Knight). No more of the darkly humorous Joker of B:TAS and Gotham Knights. The Joker we see in Return of the Joker is the sick twisted sociopathic fuck that Alan Moore gave us....and I couldn't be happier. While I agree, I must disagree BB: ROTJ does have a few humorous anticdotes, and Bruce Timm did say in the DVD commentary that they had a hard time getting Hamil to not do the manic BTAS Joker, but have him darker in this. I can't wait as well!!! wooohooo! But the question remains can Mike & James review this objectively without gushing all over it? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePD Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Oh, Joker has some funny moments in the movie, but it's usually stuff that it feels very wrong to laugh at. And I'm also looking forward to a discussion of the edits (neutering) done to the initial release of the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 yeah I'm hoping the guys discuss the differences in the edited and uncut endings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Don't worry. I'll be sure to bring up as many edited moments as I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Don't worry. I'll be sure to bring up as many edited moments as I can remember. the one big one I'm looking for is the differences between: editing version where joker throws the switch on himself and he's standing in water. So he gets electrocuted. Compared to Tim winking at Batman and then shooting joker BOOM he's dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Does Tim wink? I always thought it was him feeling the pressure and fighting back what the joker did to him, ultimately driiving him mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Does Tim wink? I always thought it was him feeling the pressure and fighting back what the joker did to him, ultimately driiving him mad. watch it very closely suave right as Joker is holding Bats by the cape he says to "JJ" LOL to do it already Bats says in agony Tim and then the boy winks and changes the aim from Bats to Joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Tim didn't wink. He closed his eye to take aim with the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Tim didn't wink. He closed his eye to take aim with the gun. Oh ok.... but I thought they were trying to show the fact that maybe somewhere inside Robin was trying to come out and he winked at Bruce because maybe the Drake side of the brain fought off the evil side. Hell I dunno that's the way I interpeted it, hey it aint the first time I've been wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Tim Drake wouldn't shoot Joker. 1.) That's killing someone. 2.) That's using a gun. Being brainwashed into JJ, is why he shoots Joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Plus, you know, there's the whole mental falling apart thing going on while that's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Plus purple isn't really Tim's colour. Tim could fight the JJ personality just enough to not kill Batman, but not enough to not fire the gun, Joker was in the way when the shot was fired, which is why it was not funny, he was killed in a random act of violence. A random act of violence that in the Jokers eyes should never have failed, and this was his final time to say goodbye to Bruce and he was sickened by the man he was fighting his yin to yang was nothing more than a child. Well that's my take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 So, I'm actually giddy over WFP finally getting to Return of the Joker. Hearing the guys commenting on what is, in my opinion at least, one of the BEST Joker stories (Up the with The Killing Joke/Death in the Family and Dark Knight). No more of the darkly humorous Joker of B:TAS and Gotham Knights. The Joker we see in Return of the Joker is the sick twisted sociopathic fuck that Alan Moore gave us....and I couldn't be happier. Ehh......you really can't make it sound like Alan Moore was the only person to make Joker a sociopathic killer. You have to give credit to other writers such as Jim Starlin, Marv Wolfman and Doug Moench who wrote really good Joker stories at the time of A Death in the Family/A Lonley Place of Dying era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 So, I'm actually giddy over WFP finally getting to Return of the Joker. Hearing the guys commenting on what is, in my opinion at least, one of the BEST Joker stories (Up the with The Killing Joke/Death in the Family and Dark Knight). No more of the darkly humorous Joker of B:TAS and Gotham Knights. The Joker we see in Return of the Joker is the sick twisted sociopathic fuck that Alan Moore gave us....and I couldn't be happier. Ehh......you really can't make it sound like Alan Moore was the only person to make Joker a sociopathic killer. You have to give credit to other writers such as Jim Starlin, Marv Wolfman and Doug Moench who wrote really good Joker stories at the time of A Death in the Family/A Lonley Place of Dying era. And Denny O'Neil, who wrote "The Joker's Five-Way Revenge" and Steve Englehart who wrote "The Laughing Fish". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Yeah "Jokers five way revenge" was the return of the Joker who killed and not the fun loving Joker from the TV show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePD Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 So, I'm actually giddy over WFP finally getting to Return of the Joker. Hearing the guys commenting on what is, in my opinion at least, one of the BEST Joker stories (Up the with The Killing Joke/Death in the Family and Dark Knight). No more of the darkly humorous Joker of B:TAS and Gotham Knights. The Joker we see in Return of the Joker is the sick twisted sociopathic fuck that Alan Moore gave us....and I couldn't be happier. Ehh......you really can't make it sound like Alan Moore was the only person to make Joker a sociopathic killer. You have to give credit to other writers such as Jim Starlin, Marv Wolfman and Doug Moench who wrote really good Joker stories at the time of A Death in the Family/A Lonley Place of Dying era. Moore was the first to write a Joker story that I actually found as intensely disturbing as the character can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 ^Maybe, but thats your opinion. The Joker of today isn't the Joker of The Killing Joke, or the Joker of TDK or the Joker of B:TAS. He's an amalgamation of all the different versions told by different writers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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