slothian Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Kscriv said: Because you love Roman Everyone loves Roman You'll love him too He's as over as everyone at All In, right Kellen?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted September 6, 2018 Report Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Kscriv said: Because you love Roman Everyone loves Roman You'll love him too I do like Roman Reigns and I think much of the heat he gets from the crowd is undeserved. I think he's a deserving champion. I may be the only adult male WWE fan alive who thinks that, but I'm used to being in the minority. 🙂 But the heel/face alignment in this storyline makes so little sense that it's obvious that WWE is overcompensating with the 100 vs. 3 beatdown of the Shield ordered by Baron Corbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted September 7, 2018 Report Share Posted September 7, 2018 If he were booked decently rather than Cena mark II, no-one would have much of a problem with Roman. The fact that he's pushed to try and get everyone to love him the way Vince does is simply tiring and nonsensical. It's why Smackdown is hands down the better show than Raw is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 It's not his fault he isn't booked properly. The best option is to turn him heel. Make him betray the Shield, become a killer who viciously destroys people (like he was in his days with The Shield in 2012-2013) and the crowd will turn around on him. You can have that babyface run after that and it will work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 R-Truth's pursuit of Carmella is creepy and deeply disturbing. This storyline needs to be killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 They’re teaming up for the Mixed Match Challenge. Most of the weird should be passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Way to make the rest of the heels look like jobbers by having the Shield dominate them despite being outnumbered more than three to one, especially since the weapons didn't come out until well into the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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S-T Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 Why does anyone go for a pin after any move other than their finisher? No one ever loses clean to a non-finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 14, 2018 Report Share Posted October 14, 2018 From a kayfabe perspective, it's about making the person being pinned expend energy. Pushing another person off of you while on your back is going to wear one down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Ricochet won last week on NXT with a springboard 450 rather than his 630 finisher. And Meiko Satomura has had two matches in the Mae Young Classic and won with two different moves (DVD and Scorpion Kick).  And I think Lars beat EC3 a few weeks ago with a diving headbutt. Not saying you are wrong, but those scrappy kids at Full Sail seem to be mixing things up recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 12:05 PM, The Master said: From a kayfabe perspective, it's about making the person being pinned expend energy. Pushing another person off of you while on your back is going to wear one down. That's true, but they never explain that on commentary any more. And all of the wrestlers look totally shocked and act really upset when someone kicks out after a move that is not a finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 I’m getting really sick of the Undertaker. In the main event of Smackdown 1000, he took five minutes to walk to the damn ring, said one sentence and then took another five minutes to walk up the ramp. This was the goddamn main event. This ended the show. Earlier in the night, Rusev and the Miz, two guys that show up and wrestle week in and week out, were given under a minute for their match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 I feel like this is going to be something fandom complains about but the company is never going to remedy. They will always promote the part-time big namers and creative's pets over the guys who work every week and put in the hours. Let's take Finn Balor for example. The audience loves him, the company uses him for their anti-bullying campaign, and he's even brought in people that might not watch wrestling like an LGBT audience. Now, let's look at some of his track record this year: The guy is #2 at the Royal Rumble, lasts nearly an hour, and is taken out by John Cena. He works his butt off to get into Elimination Chamber only to be beat by Braun Strohman. Loses at Wrestlemania to Seth Rollins (who, to be fair, also beat The MIz. It'll never not suck to be The Miz.). Then, at Money in the Bank, loses again to Braun Strohman. Then he has a feud with Baron Corbin which, sure he wins matches against but then he's also getting a bit of the wrong kind of push coming out of it. Now, let's look at The Undertaker. Guy is way past his prime. Most of his matches lack any energy (as seen by his ten minute trip to the wring at Smackdown 1000) and are over before they even begin. He also only competes with or against the people the company is trying to put over or other part-timers/retired wrestlers. I mean, he's freaking feuding with DX. This isn't the Attitude Era anymore for Christ's sake! The problem is that Creative is headed by HHH so his friends are always going to get the extra promotion, himself included. So, the little guy is going to inevitably come off big at first until getting trampled by whoever the company is determined to make you love instead/the guy you loved ten years ago who must be on so many painkillers just to come out to the ring again. Eventually, they get tired and either retire or leave the company for someone else who might know how to use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 The worst part is that Hunter really has a great eye for talent. He doesn’t have Vince’s big man fetish. He’ll push guys like Kevin Owens and Ciampa and Gargano. But when oil money murderers want HBK and Lesnar, it’s hard to say no to 45 Millions bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 I mean, look at what he has done in NXT, (through no small help from Regal, Albert and *checks notes*... Scotty 2 Hotty? Really?). But without the nostalgia reigning him in, he makes a great product. Hell, look at everyone floundering in the main roster? Owens, Balor, Shinsuke, Joe, Zayn? They were all used better in NXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Thanks to Hulu I think I'm gonna give NXT a try. Is there anyone I should be paying attention to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Ciampa, Gargano, Aleister Black, Ricochet, Moustache Mountain, Velveteen Dream, I’m leaving people off. The entire roster is really, really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 Tommaso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano, Alistair Black, Velveteen Dream, Adam Cole, Kyle O'Reilly, Roderick Strong, Ricochet, Pete Dunne, Tyler Bate, Trent Seven, Shayna Baszler, Kairi Sain. Then you got War Raiders, Keith Lee and Matt Riddle who are all just starting/about to start.  And then there are lovable losers types like Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch. Chris Hero is there too. I say this with complete sincerity: I don't think there is anybody on the show that doesn't have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slothian Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 That's a pretty drastic measure of getting over as a face... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, slothian said: That's a pretty drastic measure of getting over as a face... It worked, didn’t it? In all seriousness, I’ve never been Roman’s biggest fan but I wouldn’t wish this on the worst guy in the world. Here’s hoping to a speedy recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Preston said: It worked, didn’t it? In all seriousness, I’ve never been Roman’s biggest fan but I wouldn’t wish this on the worst guy in the world. Here’s hoping to a speedy recovery. Yeah, without going into specifics, an extremely close family member, as well as one of my cousins, went through lymphoma and that was pretty bleak (both are in remission, thankfully). Black humour probably not appropriate on my part, but you have to be a pretty despicable wrestling mark to be glad that a wildly misbooked wrestler needs cancer treatment. Seemingly Twitter is being shockingly well-behaved on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 I do appreciate what WWE is doing in the wake, here. This is a massive hole to fill.  They lost the top babyface. So, turning Strowman face again? Smart. Building McIntyre as a monster heel? Smart. Turning Elias face on Corbin? Brilliant move. Giving Balor a massive win over Bobby Lashley? Brilliant  Turning Ambrose on Rollins? Yeah. It seems soon, but in doing so, they’ve created a mega-babyface that could have a great match vs a mega heel. RAW is out Reigns, Owens and Lesnar. Which is a big chunk of their main event. Whether they put the belt on Braun or set something up for Survivor Series, this is all really smart booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Realistically, I expect a big Braun win or a screwy finish that ends up in a Survivor Series tournament, (oddly enough on the ten year anniversary of the same thing happening at Survivor Series ‘98.). In the case of the tourney, I see Balor or McIntyre taking it. (Maybe, MAYBE heel Lashley.) But I honestly hope they put the belt on Braun and keep him face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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