Delete Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 http://www.slashfilm.com/batman-and-robin-sequel-schumacher-comic/ Joel Schumacher is writing a comic based on the script to Batman Triumphant which was going to be the sequel to Batman & Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 ...I really, really want to read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 DC cancelled a variant Batgirl cover because people are overly sensitive thought it alluded to sexual assault. There were death threats sent to the artist over it. I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 There weren't death threats to the artist, they were to people criticizing the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 It was threats sent to the people who objected to the cover, BTW. https://twitter.com/cameronMstewart/status/577656291839119362 I don't think it was the worst thing ever, but I can see the creative team's assertion that this is not the tone they want with the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Things in geekdom are really, really tense right now. Its better to err on the side of caution right now. And I gotta say, that cover squicked me the hell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Well that's just as stupid. I'm guessing it's Twitter, because it always is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 For me, it was because it was more than a bit of a reference to a previous act of sexual violence against the character of Batgirl. Factoring in the tone of the series that it's a variant for, it was roughly the equivalent of having a variant cover of Casper the Friendly Ghost that depicts Richie Rich getting violently murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 For me, it was because it was more than a bit of a reference to a previous act of sexual violence against the character of Batgirl. Factoring in the tone of the series that it's a variant for, it was roughly the equivalent of having a variant cover of Casper the Friendly Ghost that depicts Richie Rich getting violently murdered. Exactly. Batgirl is a book that's a fun, appealing, safe place for female readership coming from a company with a well-deserved reputation for being oblivious at best and outright hostile at worst in that regard for many, many decades. After, what, maybe six months of saying "we hear you and we get it," they do this. And the Twitter death threats are just the latest in a long line of ugliness thrown at anyone with the unmitigated gall to speak up whenever they think maybe Starfire could think about putting some pants on. Fanboys fucking suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Dude, I have assault in my past. It's a powerful piece. This? Absolutely NOT anything I would want on my cover as a variant, especially with the current writers. She's tied up (or paralyzed?), a smile (presumably in her own blood) is drawn on her, she's crying. The reference to her rape/assault in Killing Joke is not exactly something I would want to showcase as part of the character's history. That's not fun, that's not anything I would want to show off at a comic shop. This as a piece of art about surviving? Fine. But as a yay joker and batgirl piece used to sell comic covers? That's gross and appeals to a segment of fandom that I am just NOOOOOOOPE about. This would be like having Dr. Light and Sue Dinby on a cover with Sue beaten and bloodied and Dr Light being all smiles. I respect what the artist was trying to say, but lord, don't use that to sell your comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 It's a variant. You have the choice to not buy it. Or at least would have. There is nothing sexual or relating to sexual assault in that picture. The biggest problem is that it references something that today's fans don't know anything about so they would see it without context, but since it's a variant you practically have to look for it to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Kurt Busiek @KurtBusiek · 11h 11 hours ago That’s why I think DC, the BATGIRL team and Rafael are making the right choice here. Let the covers fit the books, let them attract the... Kurt Busiek @KurtBusiek · 11h 11 hours ago …audience they’re trying to reach rather than chasing it off and attracting an audience that’d like darker, more horrific stuff that just... Kurt Busiek @KurtBusiek · 11h 11 hours ago …isn’t in there. Covers are about reaching out to readers. They’re not an afterthought, or irrelevant, Mark Waid @MarkWaid · 11h11 hours ago IMO, DC made the right call to pull the cover. It really was a step too far, and tone-deaf at this point in time especially. This is gonna be one of those things you and I disagree on, and I'm cool with that. But the covers you put out do say things about your comic, they don't exist in a void. And if the team on the comic finds out about the cover and completely disavows it, that speaks to me as a pretty fundamental misunderstanding on the part of the cover artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Plus the way DC does themed variants, there would've been the same quantity available as the regular one, for the same price. (Which is actually pretty cool, in general) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 For a good long while, DC and Marvel have been treating variant covers like an excuse to sell tangentially-related promo art. It doesn't matter if the cover matches the book; it's basically just an excuse to make money directly off a marketing tool (and theoretically inflate comic sales at the same time). ...Which is a stupid thing that they need to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Anyone who says the cover doesn't imply sexual violence has gone through life thinking that what happened to Barbara wasn't sexually violent in nature. I'm not saying Joker did things to her off panel, but the simple act of shooting her then stripping her naked and taking pictures is so clearly a sex crime that it's really galled me that it's been kept in canon for so long. I still just about like the Killing Joke, but what happened to Barbara was insane. Still love her as Oracle more'n Batgirl, but goddamn, that kind of storytelling is one DC has got to run away from. And quite frankly you'll never see Superman or Batman being held by their enemies like that effing crying. Is this Batgirl's title or the Joker's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I have really enjoyed Gotham Academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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