RSS Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 This week Dan and Mike discuss Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?, Spider-Man: Torment, and X-Men First Class: Tomorrow's Brightest. And while one of the books causes Mike to rant, another brings endless praise from both hosts. On top of that, a major announcement is made. [ 54:03 || 25.1 MB ] The above is from: http://www.earth-2.net/theshow/episodes/e2ts_326.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom BITD Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I'm all a'flutter in anxiety..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Andy Kubert was born to draw Batman. It takes him awhile, but it always ends up looking spectacular. If you want to see Batman stories that pay tribute to the Silver Age and do it well, read Grant Morrison's Batman run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I got into Spider-Man in the 90s, but my artist was Mark Bagley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Those issues of Spider-Man I mentioned, turns out they were drawn by Jae Lee. And I was a little off with the numbering; they were #41-43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Jeff Parker has become one of my favorite writers from his work on Agents of Atlas. I'll have to check out X-Men: First Class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I bought the issues of WHTCC and though they were ok, and I liked the ending. I just sold my issues on eBay and am not getting the HC as it simply costs too much for a story that may look pretty, but it is very average, though the ending was nice, and I don't really care about the other storys in the HC. Andy Kubert was born to draw Batman. It takes him awhile, but it always ends up looking spectacular. If you want to see Batman stories that pay tribute to the Silver Age and do it well, read Grant Morrison's Batman run. It's all in the Batman and Son trade, for anyone wanting to read what Koete is talking about, and he is right. Also his Joker is creepy. Mike, I still maintain he is in the past, at the start of time in Crime Alley. This may be the part of his persona of Batman dying, like the Batman side of his personality. Also, DiDido has said that he already knows how Bruce comes back, however if Dick as batman takes off, they may push that back. Also, that thing about the modern age batman's end, that's what everyone thought this would be, and it really wasn't what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 YES! Agents of Atlas is Marvel's best book. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 HOLY SHIT! at the announcement. Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It's all in the Batman and Son trade, for anyone wanting to read what Koete is talking about, and he is right. Also his Joker is creepy. All of Morrison's trades really. Batman and Son scratches the surface of what Morrison does in The Black Glove and R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Mike, do you have an idea of when you and Dan are recording next? I want to be able to chime in on Agents of Atlas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 We haven't scheduled that yet, but it won't be before next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 It's all in the Batman and Son trade, for anyone wanting to read what Koete is talking about, and he is right. Also his Joker is creepy. All of Morrison's trades really. Batman and Son scratches the surface of what Morrison does in The Black Glove and R.I.P. I meant your point about Andy Kubert and that being the trade his art for Morrisons Batman is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I meant your point about Andy Kubert and that being the trade his art for Morrisons Batman is in. Ah gotcha, in which case I agree wholeheartedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamvidger Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader should of been its own series. One that would go on for three issues, like what Mike and Dan said. Because people who had subscriptions or just bought BATMAN issues and DETECTIVE COMICS issues or whatever, nowadays, don't know the Silver and Golden Age that well. Also, this has nothing much from the Modern Age so it doesn't actually relate to the death of Batman in the continuity of the DCU that is going on today in the Modern Age. Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader, is basically looking back at the Golden Age and the Silver Age, and saying that Batman has also died outside of the Modern Age. I would just buy this story in the two issues, even though its not that type of story where you buy that way, it's still a rip off to buy the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 See what annoys me is that you can now find these in 50p bins, the two issues and if you wanted to read the Batman Black and White stuff, I would've bought Batman: Black and White. That pisses me off, stuff getting put into several trades, like that, you put something in one trade, then you keep all the same stuff together. I know this would never happen, but how about a deluxe edition featuring whatever happened to the man of tomorrow and the caped crusader, in one book. But then that would contradict what I just said about about mixing seperate things. Anyway, the Spider-Man thing, am I the only person who thought that this was Todd McFarlanes all star Batman and robin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamvidger Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 This is a comment by Jonathan Stout on Amazon in a review of Spider-Man: Torment: the only torment this book has to offer is for the reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DCAUFan1051 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Listening now.... the Batman issues you guys covered the first thing that popped into my mind was the BTAS Ep Batman's In My Basement... only because of the fact that Bats died lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I don't believe "What ever happened to the Caped Crusader" was aimed at fans of the Silver Age, as much as it was fans of Batman in general. Because Batman comic fans could all get the references no matter how old they were. Like Des said he's 35 and he's the target audience for the story. I'm 20, and there wasn't a single thing I didn't understand. I see where you guys were coming from in that the story does a 180 in the second issue, but what I got from it was it was a two-issue love letter to the Batman character. I think coupled with the AMAZING artwork, 2/5's pretty damn harsh. I'd grade it 3.5/5 at least, but then again its my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 If this was all about honoring the character of Batman, it would have been akin to "Legends of the Dark Knight." That episode showed his many incarnations, making note of the fact that Batman can survive in any era of comics books. But the two stories in the first issue were clearly an homage to tales from the Silver Age. I think Dan's score is perfectly fair. No matter how good the art is, when the story is ho-hum, the book is going to falter. (Plus, recall he said his score was also based on the fact that DC is asking you to pay $25 for two new issues.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Like Des said he's 35 and he's the target audience for the story. I'm 29. Dan's 35. And if I reviewed it it would have gotten 1/5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Wow! Why would you have scored it so low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Because Gaiman shit all over that first issue. So bad I couldn't care about the second. It wouyld get a fuck this book if I didn't love Andy Kubert on Batman. It was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 My bad. Dan I meant. Sooo you're saying that the first issue wasn't interesting in the slightest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 My bad. Dan I meant. Sooo you're saying that the first issue wasn't interesting in the slightest? Nope. I was aggravated with it and angry for spending money on it, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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