Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Manhattan angry. Manhattan smash. "The world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than the world's smartest termite." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 ...Rorschach. "Never compromise, even in the face of Armageddon." "What's one more body in its foundations. What are you waiting for? DO IT." Emotional Dan scream that was unneeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'm not sure which ending I prefer. The squid seems like something that would guarantee the world powers putting aside their differences, while the Doctor Manhattan imitation is more connected to what came before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Emotional Dan scream that was unneeded. It is a bit dramatic, but I like that he was there to witness Rorschach's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I like them both equally in the end. Both have their flaws, but both are solid. ...I really don't like Dan adding in this passive agressive thing with Ozymandias, here. It imposes judgement where the whole point of the comic was that there were moral shades of gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 So I'm skipping a bit ahead in the timeline, but I need to go to bed now so that I'm not dead tomorrow morning. I was listening to David Hayter talk about his drafts of the film, and he said that his ending was originally very different. The Nite Owl/Rorschach/Ozymandias fight never happened, but the Dan/Laurie poolside sex still happened, and Dan had a realization afterwards: that Rorschach was right, and that evil must not got unpunished. Dan then went to see Adrian in the middle of the night, looked him in the eye, and said "If the world finds out what you did here, then they'll go back to fighting each other. But that won't stop me from killing you for it anyway." Dan and Adrian then have a fight scene, where Dan obviously gets trashed. Adrian says "I'm sorry, Dan. I thought you'd be able to make it through this alive." He then bends over to the beaten-down Dan to deal the finishing blow, but sees the activated remote for Archie sitting in Dan's hand. Two bright headlights are seen through the room's tall windows, and Archie comes crashing through the building's wall/ceiling, right down on top of Adrian, killing him and barely missing Dan. Inaccurate to the book or not, I would have loved that ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Emotional Dan scream that was unneeded. It is a bit dramatic, but I like that he was there to witness Rorschach's death. I like the fact that he was there to witness it, but there's just a point where it gets overwrought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 So I'm skipping a bit ahead in the timeline, but I need to go to bed now so that I'm not dead tomorrow morning. I was listening to David Hayter talk about his drafts of the film, and he said that his ending was originally very different. The Nite Owl/Rorschach/Ozymandias fight never happened, but the Dan/Laurie poolside sex still happened, and Dan had a realization afterwards: that Rorschach was right, and that evil must not got unpunished. Dan then went to see Adrian in the middle of the night, looked him in the eye, and said "If the world finds out what you did here, then they'll go back to fighting each other. But that won't stop me from killing you for it anyway." Dan and Adrian then have a fight scene, where Dan obviously gets trashed. Adrian says "I'm sorry, Dan. I thought you'd be able to make it through this alive." He then bends over to the beaten-down Dan to deal the finishing blow, but sees the activated remote for Archie sitting in Dan's hand. Two bright headlights are seen through the room's tall windows, and Archie comes crashing through the building's wall/ceiling, right down on top of Adrian, killing him and barely missing Dan. Inaccurate to the book or not, I would have loved that ending. Nah, that's about right where we were. ...Hm. I remember reading that somewhere. More thoughts in morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Nah, that's about right where we were. Well, when I started writing that, it was about ten minutes earlier. My typing speed decreases with lack of sleep. Am I the only one who doesn't hate the song at the end credits? I think it's kinda kickass, considering how well it seems to fit the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I like how they bought it round again with Rorchach's journal to begin and end. ... DESOLATION ROW EARS BLEEDING OW MUSTY TURN OFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Loved it when I first saw it and love it even more with the added scenes. Easily in my top 5 favorite comic book movies and possibly in my top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 No. No. No. That ending would have been AWFUL. Adrian has to live with what he did. There will be no more heroics for him. He's going to live the rest of his life in haunted solitude. He "saved the world" but made himself into the greatest monster of all, that shot of him, in the broken down Karnak as Dan and Laurie leave is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I liked the end song, in its original form. Pop punk gets old real quick, especially when its MCR. It was okay the first time I heard it, but it's grown on me less and less as time has gone on. So, all in all, most of the director's cut seemed pretty minor changes/additions to scenes that made up most of the new footage, and two scenes that I felt should've made the movie. Good investment, regardless. Sleep times now. G'night all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 That ending would have been AWFUL. Adrian has to live with what he did. There will be no more heroics for him. He's going to live the rest of his life in haunted solitude. He "saved the world" but made himself into the greatest monster of all, that shot of him, in the broken down Karnak as Dan and Laurie leave is perfect. Eh. I'm not so sure. I like the ending they have a lot, and I think that it works from a completely artistic perspective, but I also think that having Dan actually kill Adrian would have been a great character development for him and would have further solidified Rorschach's statements about justice. Also, I think movies need a bit more emotional closure than books do. It's not fair and it might even be wrong, but that's the way it is sometimes. For me, Dan becoming a badass and killing Adrian has more pros than cons. (But that might simply be because I tend to VERY closely lean towards Rorschach's hardline "commit murder and you become a target for justice" way of thinking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 God I thought Rorschach was awesome in that movie. Can you do another thread just after christmas when I get my copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'd be up for it, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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