RSS Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 In this episode of Dread Media, Desmond and Darryll sit down to check out the Blu-ray release of The Living Dead at the Manchester Morgue, and Desmond, Megan, and our friend Shannon have a chat about The Twilight Saga: New Moon. This episode glitters, people! Tunes included: "Now He's Dead" by Hank Williams III, "Morgue Than Words" by Wednesday 13, "The Killing Moon" by Nouvelle Vague, and "Seasons in the Abyss" by Hellsongs. [ 1:23:58 || 38.6 MB ] The above is from: http://www.earth-2.net/podcasts/dreadmedia/episodes/dreadmedia_118.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I wanted desperately to put some clipped audio from the film to illustrate George's asshole-ish nature but it's a Blu Ray and won't work with my Mac and there's nothing on Youtube worth grabbing. But man, George is a real asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Man Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Yes, indeed he is. But I gotta say, this movie has stuck with me over this past week. It was pretty fuckin great. One of my favorite parts was the actual Ultra-sonic machinery that's allegedly responsible for the Zombie uprising. Up close it has a real ominous, vaguely Dr. Who appearance, yet it's grounded in a real world practicality. From a distance, say passing a field along the M6, you may be only mildly curious at what it's doing, not realizing that just over the next hill is an old church graveyard where all hell is breaking loose. In another thread I claimed that zombies had jumped the shark but this flick harkens back to a time when zombies were still a fresh (no pun intended) source for horror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Agreed. The social conscious here is even more effective as it is the cause of the zombies uprising. Romero mixed with Return of the Living Dead. It is kind of a perfect combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadzilla Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Great episode, as usual. Thought your review of Manchester Morgue was spot on and the New Moon review was refreshing, although it doesn't make me want to rush out and see it. (If I am going to indulge in a Paranormal Romance, I'll just pick up one of the romances for my age group, thank you very much.) The only downside was this episode cost me money. After hearing that Hellsongs cover of "Seasons in the Abyss," I immediately downloaded the album from iTunes, and I really should be spending my money on Xmas presents right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hellsongs is spectacular. Try Nouvelle Vague too. Their cover of Dead Kennedys "Too Drunk to Fuck" might be the best song ever recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadzilla Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yeah, Nouvelle Vague's "Too Drunk To Fuck" is awesome. It popped up on the Planet Terror soundtrack and I just wanted to curl up with it and be its BFF. My fifteen year old son's reaction to hearing Hellsongs' cover of AC/DC's Thunderstruck was hilarious. "What happened to Brian Johnson!?! Put on some AC/DC, NOW!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I've been checking out your blog over the past couple of days, Chadzilla. You have convinced me to stay away from Just After Sunset. One of the best stories in it (Stationary Bike) I read in the fifth Borderlands collection. Thanks for the help dodging the bullet there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadzilla Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Thank you, and you are welcome. Although I do recommend borrowing the book, just to read the story N. So very good, that one. Just about everything else you can skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Just got around to listening, and frankly, Des is a saint for sitting through that New Moon discussion. There's no way I could sit that long with two Twilight fans (regardless of their relationship to me) and not scream out in agony at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 It's funny because the biggest video game geeks, comic geeks and horror geeks do nothing but scream out about Twilight fandom. Glass houses indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 See, I actually tried to read it. I only made it through the first book before the awful portrayal of relationships and the bad writing made me physically ill. And then I heard about the fourth book. And then I think I went into a coma for a bit. So, I think to some degree, I think I get to criticize the phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I don't think that people don't have a right to criticize. I don't. I've never read it. I know that it's not for me so I stay away from it. In fact, the idea of a vampire movie where blood isn't spilled totally boggles my mind. It IS, however, dark fantasy and deserves coverage by the community. While I won't see it or read it, I'm happy to have discussion of it on my show. DM is, after all, the horror genre podcast and if I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and actually cover the whole genre then I can't very well pretend the Twilight Saga does not exist. Nor will I shoot it down for not reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 And that's exactly why the first movie and book were covered on Earth-2.net: The Show 300. We're a genre show / site, and though it's more romance than anything else, there's still the horror / fantasy side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I don't see how anything that I said indicated that I didn't think Twilight categorized as dark fantasy. I also don't understand how that would be relevant to its quality anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 My point is that your judging the fans based on something you've never read or seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Umm... when did I say I've never read or seen them? I do work a book store, ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I assumed. Have you read any of them? Or seen the movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Read the first two and saw the second movie. The books are written by a lonely Mormon housewife that's admitted to have never seen a vampire movie before. They are dreadfully (ha) written. She's frequently polysyllabic purely for the fact that she thinks it makes her prose sound smarter. I can forgive the syrupy dialogue since it is a romance story at its heart, but none of the characters are likable in the least. Bella in particular is co-dependent and absurdly selfish, and due to the popularity of the books, it honestly kind of bothers me that an entire generation of girls feel they can relate to her, all the while creating unrealistic expectations of any real life men they happen to have relationships with in the future. So yeah, I think I have a right to criticize it considering that there are better books out there in the same vein that don't get nearly the publicity or praise. Whether or not I also play video games is irrelevant. I also don't have a problem with you covering it on the show. It's your show. Just don't expect me to cover the eventual video game tie-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 You do havce a right to criticize it but the fans? You're judging unfairly. You don't even judge the Saw fans. You ask what makes someone like something this bad but not so with Twilight. Anyway, pissing contest was fun like the old days. Maybe you can cover a Laurel K. Hamilton video game or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I didn't think I was criticizing the fans. All I said was that I don't think I could sit there for that long and listen to all of that one-sided praise. Christ, you thought I was insulting your wife? No wonder you got defensive. Sorry if that's what you thought. And don't get me started on Laurel K. Hamilton. I have hate in my heart for her as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I didn't take it as a criticism of my wife. I, as someone who has bought comics when i should have been buying food in the past, will never begrudge someone's fandom. That's all. I don't give a shit about Twilight or Harry Potter or Hamilton in the same way I don't care about anime. But I understand and accept that there are those that like it. Including those that asked for coverage of it on the show. Ultimately, I preferred not to go and see a movie I have zero interest in seeing but I still thought it deserved coverage. It's up to the listeners to listen or not. As a show about a genre, there's going to be discussion of stuff that many don't like. I understand that. It's proabbly the reason the show isn't more popular but I'm fine with that. I've had equal positive and negative feedback about Twilight but never been chastized for having it on the show and I wouldn't care if I was. It is my show. My prerogative (Britney Spears blaring in the background) as well. I think we're both projecting a little but it was nice having this feel like the old days before we agreed on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 I think we're both projecting a little but it was nice having this feel like the old days before we agreed on anything. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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