Molly Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Oh, yeah, that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 First look preview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Ugh! I regret ordering this. I mean, it looks good, but I'm very sour on JMS right now, and this didn't make it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 IGN's Dan Phillips SLAMMED the book; said it was terrible. He's usually pretty spot-on with his opinions on the DCU, so this is a very bad sign. I'll check out the book tomorrow, but I'm really skeptical now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Although I want to help the format, and see it work. I'm not bothering with Superman E-1., its just showing me nothing to make me care. Is anyone else still getting/picked up the book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I was so turned off by the various previews (and his run on the Superman series), that I've already posted the hardcover on eBay. Best of all, it has bids, too! So the second it arrives from DCBS, I'm gonna turn around and ship it back out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Are you gonna read it first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Oooo. Cold. Can't fault ya, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I was so turned off by the various previews (and his run on the Superman series), that I've already posted the hardcover on eBay. Best of all, it has bids, too! So the second it arrives from DCBS, I'm gonna turn around and ship it back out. Nice. You can open the box, look at, and put it in another box to send it away in one fluid motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunKL Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 My copy should come in around October 29th, I won't be in town for awhile though... I'm hopeful, I know I'm a Superman fanboy, but I'm hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Robinson Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 I want to support this idea so bad, but this doesn't sound like something I want to read at all. Even the artwork, which looks fantastic initially, just looks kind of stiff and unimaginative in those preview pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 An e-mail I just received from my mom: Hi honey Do you like the new, more trendy look they did to Superman? Not yo' mama's Superman that is for sure. I my mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Hey, at least, they got publicity, right? You got USA Today and the Associated Press writing about comics. That's gotta count for something. Maybe? Kinda? ... Screw it. "Batman: Earth One" still sounds good. Good-ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 If the book sells really well, they'll need to continue the series. I wonder if they'll pull JMS off the book? Give it to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 If the book sells really well, they'll need to continue the series. I wonder if they'll pull JMS off the book? Give it to someone else? Probably not, as its a book for him. If they do, it'll be a few volumes in, they wouldn't be so short sighted to just have one story in the bag, and not wait to see how it fairs for about a year. I think the book will sell, just not very well. Most comic fans seem to have been put off by the "Its like Edward from Twilight..." bull, and how badly JMS's Superman run has went. Also, Secret Origin just wrapped, and this is another technical origin story (All be it, different. An origin is still an origin) so most people will have their fill of Superman origins for a while. Well, that's what I think. Earth-1 Batman doesn't even have a new release date yet, which is a little worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Also, Secret Origin just wrapped, and this is another technical origin story (All be it, different. An origin is still an origin) so most people will have their fill of Superman origins for a while. I'm still waiting for a good Superman origin story. So far, the best ones (in comic form) have been Man of Steel and Birthright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 <Spoilers Below> I just read it. Hmmm.... Okay, here's the deal: It's a decent story. It really is. It's just not a Superman story. Someone said in a review that this is a Marvel Comics Superman story. That's about as accurate a statement as I've heard about the book. All the things that make the DC universe special are swapped out for Marvel's darker, more "real-world" sensibilities. In this story, Krypton did not self-implode; it was purposely destroyed by another race of beings from a sister planet, hired by an as-yet unknown third party. Toward the end of the book, Clark is able to access the database on board his ship, and he asks it a simple question: who am I, and what am I supposed to do? The ship responds, "Your task is to survive. To use your powers well and wisely. And to avenge the murder of your home world." ...WHAT? Yes. Superman's purpose in life is to avenge the murder of Krypton. Clark of Earth-One barely talks. He mostly walks and/or flies around, unsure of exactly what to do. The first half of the book is just him "finding himself." Even after he decides to put on the suit and fight the invading alien force, he barely talks. Superman never speaks a word to Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, or anyone else except the evil alien overlord. Hell, Clark Kent has only one conversation with Lois and Jimmy. There is ZERO development of any relationship between Lois and Clark, save for an offhand reference in a Watchmen-style in-universe newspaper article at the end. That article saves a lot of the book, as it's the only time we really see (or rather read) Superman in the entire book. We finally get Superman laying out the "this is who I am, and this is what I'm here to do" speech. Fortunately, he doesn't mention vengeance or anything stupid like that once. But those two pages at the end are the ONLY time we really get good, straightforward development on Superman himself. Everything else is just "Clark spends time alone to think," "Clark uses his heat vision on person/object A," or "Clark flies at super-speed into object/person B." Clark's characrer honestly feels like a near-exact copy of Hyperion from the Supreme Power. I wonder why that would be... He's moody, he's quiet, and he spends a lot of time staring out into space thinking about his place in the world. He's there for the world when all hell breaks loose, but that's the only time he's there. Now, like, I said, this isn't actually a bad book, per ce. I have no problem with a version of Superman who didn't know what he wanted to do with his life at the age of 21, and needed some time to sort through things before finally donning the tights. The problem, however, is that this story focuses entirely on that, rather than on the truly important aspects of the Superman mythos: the Lois/Clark dynamic, Superman's morality, the underlying message of hope, etc. Hell, even SMALLVILLE has that down! So, essentially, Superman: Earth-One is a decent story that is in no way a Superman story. As a "modern reboot" of the Superman mythos, it fails. TERRIBLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 I didn't hate this, but it felt terribly unneeded. I agree with just about everything Knightwing says, for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I completely disagree with KnightWing. I loved Clark Kent's portrayal. He is very young in this story. Basically Superboy if you think about it. He's afraid of being different and unsure of what he wanted to do with his life. Which describes most 20 year olds so why sure he be different? And the way the characterization on that worked was pitch perfect. Also loved his parents. Loved that they understood how special he was. The scene after Ma Kent has figured out how to make the suit out of the stuff in the rocket and she is talking with Clark in the kitchen is brilliant. Telling Clark the only way they won't fear his power is if they can see his face. That Clark Kent would have to wear a mask because Superman can't. And how crestfallen Clark is by that notion. Just brilliant I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I loved Clark Kent's portrayal. He is very young in this story. Basically Superboy if you think about it. He's afraid of being different and unsure of what he wanted to do with his life. Which describes most 20 year olds so why sure he be different? And the way the characterization on that worked was pitch perfect. I have no problem with a version of Superman who didn't know what he wanted to do with his life at the age of 21, and needed some time to sort through things before finally donning the tights. The problem, however, is that this story focuses entirely on that, rather than on the truly important aspects of the Superman mythos: the Lois/Clark dynamic, Superman's morality, the underlying message of hope, etc. Hell, even SMALLVILLE has that down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 What I mean I disagree with is the notion it shouldn't be all about that. Especially since it made more sense in context of the story for him to view Lois and Jimmy's actions as a stranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunKL Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 I agree with KnightWing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Sequel in the works; Chris Roberson on Superman and Phil Hester on Wonder Woman replacing JMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 HA HA HA! Good riddance, JMS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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