KnightWing Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 "Not a sequel" could mean anything. It could mean that it's a prequel that takes place during the time in-between the prologue of X-Men Origins and the main meat of the story. Or it could be "not a sequel" in that it chronologically takes place after the first movie, but doesn't directly continue any character or plotlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 "Not a sequel" could mean anything. It could mean that it's a prequel that takes place during the time in-between the prologue of X-Men Origins and the main meat of the story. Or it could be "not a sequel" in that it chronologically takes place after the first movie, but doesn't directly continue any character or plotlines. Or it could mean he saw the first movie, said "Fuck that noise" and decided he'd rather do his own Wolverine film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yeah, that'd work if he were in complete control of the entire X-men franchise. I don't think Fox would let him do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Technically this would be the 5th movie with this character played by the same actor. People are going to assume it's part of the continuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yeah, that'd work if he were in complete control of the entire X-men franchise. I don't think Fox would let him do that. What I mean is, he would do his own movie, with its own story, and then just try to put as little reference to the first movie as possible. Technically this would be the 5th movie with this character played by the same actor. People are going to assume it's part of the continuity. Yeah, most people don't really care about reading stuff online, they'll just go see the film when it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 What I mean is, he would do his own movie, with its own story, and then just try to put as little reference to the first movie as possible.. Ah. Then totally, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I know it seems sort of obvious now, but couldn't most comic/superhero movies work like that? The comics always have well defined story arcs that finish. Each movie could be their own stand alone story, not a sequel, not a prequel, just shit that happens to that hero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 He could also say the first movie didn't happen, and was one of Logan's memory implants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Most modern comic stories generally progress one into the other unless there's a title relaunch or a shift in the creative teams, and even then it's rare for any story to stand completely on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Also adding to the confusion you have the ending of the first Wolverine movie with him in Japan, and if this one takes place in Japan it sure sounds like a sequel to most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Robinson Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does it matter if it’s a sequel or not? If the events that take place in the movie don’t contradict what’s already been laid out, then you can take it either way. And I don’t think they will. Nobody has to be confused by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does it matter if it’s a sequel or not? If the events that take place in the movie don’t contradict what’s already been laid out, then you can take it either way. And I don’t think they will. Nobody has to be confused by this. If he's specifically saying it's not a sequel then it might contradict past movies. He didn't need to say anything unless it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Robinson Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 It sounds like you're reading too much into it. Wolverine's in Japan. They'd have to out of their way to contradict what's already been set up, and I don't know why they would since it's not necessary this time around. And I'd like to believe Aronofsky and McQuarrie know what they’re doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Or, here's a thought: They're trying to do with Aronofsky to Wolverine what Nolan did to Batman. And it's not going to work. At all. I mean christ, we saw that Batman pitch he did. Mind you, I love Aronofsky's stuff. But I just don't see this turning out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Robinson Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 They're trying to do with Aronofsky to Wolverine what Nolan did to Batman. And it's not going to work. At all. I mean christ, we saw that Batman pitch he did. To what extent? I'm sure the studio execs are realistic about what Aronofsky can bring to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know why you'd dismiss Aronofsky based on a pitch for a completely different movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) I'm not denying that Aronofsky can bring the right things to the table. But if how he handled his Batman pitch is how he's going to handle Wolverine, in terms of how he's gonna handle the comic properties, I think we have some things to be worried about. Here's what it comes down to, for me. They're bringing in Aronofsky to try and get someone critically acclaimed and artistic on the Wolverine series, in order to get positive popular attention. IE, what the Batman films now have with Nolan. EDIT: Okay, here we are: And the problem with that is, Aronofsky has nothing going for him but critical acclaim, and in terms of the popular audience, that means exactly jacksquat. Almost no one knows who he is, unless he's a film buff (like half of us on here). Just look at the two: both had critically acclaimed movies released in the last year, and Nolan's the one people are talking about more, and the one the more popular audience is interested in, which is the audience the Wolverine movie is gonna be aimed at. There is overlap between comic movie fans and film buffs, but it's not a big one. And I don't think it's gonna be enough to pull this off for Aronofsky. Mind you, I like the guy's work. Black Swan was awesome, and Fountain was solid, if a bit too up his own ass for me at times. I just don't think he's going to be able to appeal to a mainstream audience on name basis alone, like Nolan. And if Fox is gonna keep the license, they need that mainstream appeal. Edited February 17, 2011 by Venneh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Darren Aronofsky is out. He doesn't want to be out of the country (RE: away from his family) for close to a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm not too sad too be fair. It just means that this film goes from "Have to See" to "Wait and See." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Meh. For the best, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm rather bummed about this. I think Aronofsky could have made one of the best superhero movies we've seen yet. But, he has a valid reason for leaving the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 It's a reason, but a shitty one. He would have known the shoot was OS when he signed on and now he's bitching about it. I doubt it's the real reason. Would have loved to see his take on it, Fox will probably panic and get Peter Berg or someone like that. I'd love Paul Verhoeven to have a go at an iconic character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I wouldn't want to go to Japan for a year right now either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 He said away from his family though, not I don't want to become radio active. This all begs the question, why isn't Fox either halting production (losing the rights to the franchise I would guess) or moving production somewhere else. It all seems really weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yeah, it sounds like he just doesn't want to commit to one movie for that long. There are ways around filming in Japan for a year. It's Hollywood for God's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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