Molly Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 All I know is that fuck editorial for killing Lian Harper. NO JOY FOR ANYONE! GRIM DARK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I went to most of the DC panels at C2E2 this weekend and every one that James Robinson was at, he got asked the question about Lian and all the other drama. You could tell at the first say that James Robinson was all ready be asked about it. He seemed really composed and I am kinda looking forward to the Green Arrow relaunch now, at least enough to give the first issue a try. The basic idea is that Ollie is going to be living in the forest that was created in Brightest Day #0 and trying to find out it's mysteries. As for Lian, someone did give this awesome speech I cannot for the life of me paraphrase but it boiled down to the dynamic of Roy being a father and raising this perfectly normal child while being a superhero and Robinson pretty much made the decision on the spot that one of the heroes is going to have a kid to balance it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Adam Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Both Green Arrow and Promotheus were great characters in concept, and both have had excellent stories, but over time they have been screwed over in the hands of lesser writers. Funny, on Smallville, Green Arrow just escaped from a downward spiral, and now the one in the comics is taking one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 So when GA kills someone to stop them from killing millions more people, isn't that a good thing? Not in the DC Universe. There is absolutely no way that killing is ever, ever justified in the DCU. Just no way. Wait a second... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Rise of Arsenal #1 preview Art is shit, and the image of: Roy losing Lian because his arm comes off is just fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I'll come around to this if they actually make Roy like the Punisher of the DCU, but I don't feel like this is something that's going to remain the centre of attention for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 You know, at first Lian's death getting played over and over again was heartbreaking. Now it's just getting boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 You know, at first Lian's death getting played over and over again was heartbreaking. Now it's just getting boring. What sucks is that this is going to be Roy Harper's backstory for all time: the guy whose daughter was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Oh there will be some retcon eventually. There always is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 My point, Tom, is that though the Teen Titans book sucks right now, and I'm assuming the Titans book does as well (because I don't read books solely for the point of heroes being naked and sleeping with each other). But the characters we grew to love have moved on to more prominent roles in the DCU. In a sense, they've grown up. Dick can't be in the Titans anymore. It doesn't make sense for adult heroes to be on a team called the Teen Titans. It's ridiculous. I have no problem with a new cast of teenage heroes, it only shows the book's evolution. It just happens to be totally shitty. And the JLI thing: Martian Manhunter and Maxwell Lord are back and totally movers and shakers. Guy and Ice, on occasion, are in the best book DC publishes and he's about to be given a bigger role. Booster Gold has had his own popular ongoing for three years. Plus, apparently after Generation Lost, a book starring Captain Atom, Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, Fire, Ice and Rocket Red, the JLI is making a return to the DCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Preview of Green Arrow #1 The art is crap and is just sick: In one of the preview pages, we actually see someone shot with an arrow, and the arrow coming out, in almost darkly comical fashion. In other words, I'm not touching that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hmm. I actually am not totally bothered by that. I might check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Sooo, when did Ollie go on HGH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 I think that might be a poor attempt to homage The Longbow Hunters, where Green Arrow did something similar to a pierced fellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 What the hell is up with Arsenal!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 ... wow! And he makes my point perfectly: There's no "mature readers" notice on the book, yet Vertigo comics with 1/100th of the degradation get labeled... Thank you! If DC wants to publish mature, violent stories in their superhero books, fine. Whatever. But put a damn label on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Better yet, don't publish randomly violent content. Give it a reason and a purpose, or don't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 What the hell is up with Arsenal!? Reading that nearly makes me ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 From Tom Brevoort on Twitter: HAWKEYE & MOCKINGBIRD #1. Guaranteed to have 100% less heroin use and impotence than the average comic starring an archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Hahahahaahhaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 From Tom Brevoort on Twitter: HAWKEYE & MOCKINGBIRD #1. Guaranteed to have 100% less heroin use and impotence than the average comic starring an archer. You missed his next Twitter post: Buy it, please. Seriously. I'm pushing for this book but I'm only giving it five issues tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 From Tom Brevoort on Twitter: HAWKEYE & MOCKINGBIRD #1. Guaranteed to have 100% less heroin use and impotence than the average comic starring an archer. You missed his next Twitter post: Buy it, please. Seriously. I'm pushing for this book but I'm only giving it five issues tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Well, I just read the preview for Rise of Arsenal #4 and well: He knocks someone out with what's left of his right arm. Also, who the hell is the electricutioner? I thought Prometheus was the one who killed his daughter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I purchased the "cry for justice" hardcover. I was interested in seeing what they did with it. I wasn't expecting much - I actually expected it to be bad. It may be because I had such low expectations for it, but I actually liked it. I don't like that they killed Lian, though, and think it could have worked just as well had she gone missing instead. Then DC can bring her back at some point without resorting to resurrection or time travel or something. It made a lot of sense for Green Arrow to kill Prometheus. His city had been devastated, his adopted son maimed, and his granddaughter murdered. If Prometheus was allowed to live, there's a good chance he would do this again, as someone else brought up earlier. There should have been a reference to Dr. Light though. Making Arsenal a heroin addict in the aftermath, though, is bovine feces. It's a significant part of the character's history that he beat his drug addiction. There's no reason to go back, from a storytelling perspective. What would work better: Harper acquires some heroin because he thinks he's lost everything and it does not matter any more. The issue ends on a cliffhanger with him in tears and about to use it. The opening of the next issue sees him destroying the drug. "I beat you once. I'm not going back." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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