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And bringing this back to where we started, our covering of the Smallville finale (obviously, spoilers):

FINISHED, except for any amusing thoughts that may come after.

* Koete

Still playing ads with the Williams music.

* Venneh

There is no god?

*

6:55 PM

* Koete

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. There's just going to be a lot of angry people if they don't use it in the show.

* Venneh

They wouldn't buy the rights to use the music if they weren't going to use it in the show, right?

* Koete

I assume so.

* Koete

But considering how dickish they were about him flying...

* Venneh

I'mma go pour some Baileys, BRB

*

7:00 PM

* Koete

Alright here, we go.

* Koete

Recapping pretty much the whole series.

* Venneh

Huh.

* slothian

any live feeds available for me to join in?

* Koete

Chloe is reading a Smallville comic to her son. I shit you not.

* Venneh

.....

* Venneh

That part of the preview was serious?

* slothian

wait, what?

* Boston Dan

Apokolips!

* Venneh

Ian, I have no clue, I'm just going based on their reaction.

* Koete

Oh shit son.

* Venneh

Not Barda.

* Venneh

Please.

* Venneh

Not Barda.

* slothian

sounds fun - I'll do that too

* Koete

If any of the New Gods show up, I'll eat my hat.

* Koete

Already a commercial.

* Venneh

Whoever made that theme song is totally rich.

*

7:05 PM

* Koete

The band broke up during like Season 2 or 3.

* Venneh

They're still getting royalties.

* Koete

I know, just a tidbit.

* Boston Dan

And we're back.

* Koete

MICHAEL ROSENBAUM Y'ALL.

* Venneh

YEAUH

* Koete

Y'know, this is a point that is worth exploring, but it feels a bit gimmicky on the wedding day.

*

7:10 PM

* Boston Dan

Yeah, like we couldnt have that conversation, like, yesterday?

* Venneh

That would be too easy.

* Koete

Pop culture reference.

* Koete

And Darkseid in church.

* Koete

Granny and Tess.

* Boston Dan

This is Granny Goodness, right?

* Boston Dan

Gotcha

* Venneh

That can't be good

* Venneh

Why didnt they get Ed Asner in drag for Granny?

* Venneh

He can't cost that much.

* Boston Dan

Because that would have been far too awesome

* Koete

Darkseid's Apocalypse. Yep.

* Boston Dan

Commercial!

* Venneh

Wait, Darksied is Apocalypse?

*

7:15 PM

* Koete

Apokolips. Still can't believe it.

* Venneh

Did it look good at least?

* Koete

No, he's Satan apparently.

* Boston Dan

It didn't look bad.

* Koete

It looks like Apokolips.

* Venneh

....

* Koete

Of course, a moving planet would fuck shit up.

* Venneh

Wait, Apokolips is moving??

* Boston Dan

Yep.

* Koete

Yep.

* Boston Dan

Towards Earth.

* Venneh

Wat

* slothian

huh

* Koete

Yep.

* Boston Dan

I seriously think we've had more commercial than episode.

* Koete

Darkseid is Unicron.

* Venneh

....

*

7:20 PM

* Koete

Martha's here. And she's pissed he's selling the house.

* Venneh

Welll DUH

* Boston Dan

Wow. She got old.

* Koete

Oh you're fucking with me.

* Venneh

??

* Koete

Talking about seeing Jonathan.

* Venneh

What.

* Venneh

A.

* Venneh

Dick.

* Koete

Martha is giving him ahit for no reason.

* Koete

What the fuck?

* Koete

We have ghost Jonathan.

* Venneh

Cause she was the last sane character on the show besides Chloe.

* Venneh

She had to be taken out somehow.

* Venneh

Speaking of which, hello alcohol, I missed you.

* Koete

Really crappy attempt at metaphor.

* Venneh

Something involving Chloe and laundry?

*

7:25 PM

* slothian

I want to continue, but I've reached my energy nadir

* Venneh

Sleep well Ian

* Koete

Yeah, Chloe still gets teenage dialogue.

* slothian

enjoy the show, folks, and I'll chat soon

* Koete

Night Ian.

* Boston Dan

Take it easy, Ian

* slothian

cheerio

* Koete

Lois is reading Clark's wedding vows while crappy soft rock plays in the background.

* Boston Dan

Chris, I think you're a few minutes behind me

* Koete

Lois had the most obvious revelation.

* Koete

Guess so.

* Venneh

Cause fuck you?

* Koete

Cause poor writing.

* Venneh

Think of it this way:

* slothian

has left the room

* Venneh

It could have been to the Superman Williams theme.

* Koete

You need a satellite to see a big ass planet?

* Boston Dan

I think at this point people could just kind of look up and SEE Apokolips.

* Koete

Okay, I think the gold kryptonite wedding ring is kinda clever.

* Venneh

Wait

*

7:30 PM

* Koete

If this wasn't Darkseid.

* Venneh

So they made a ring out of Kryptonite and covered it in gold?

* Venneh

DARKSEID did that?

* Boston Dan

It's actual Gold K, I think

* Koete

No Hannah, Gold Kryptonite.

* Boston Dan

I.e. removes Superman's powers forever.

* Venneh

...

* Koete

Right.

* Koete

And Darkseid's minions did it.

* Koete

Oliver is best man, so he's gonna slip it.

* Venneh

...*SIGH*

* Koete

Ghost Jonathan.

* Boston Dan

Man, Clark is DUMB.

* Koete

Dumb as shit.

* Boston Dan

Pa Kent, pontificating from beyond the grave!

* Koete

In his jacket.

* Venneh

Cause Hell froze over.

* Koete

See, you really need to watch this show as Lex's story.

* Koete

Because Clark is just terrible.

*

7:35 PM

* Koete

What the fuck is he talking about?

* Venneh

"Are heroes not destined to love?"

* Koete

Holy shit. Did they just say Cade Skywalker? Holy fucking shit.

* Boston Dan

Well, it wouldn't be Smallville if we couldn't wring just a LITTLE more angst out of Clark.

* Venneh

What???

* Boston Dan

He did indeed.

* Venneh

What does Cade have to do with Smallville?!

* Koete

This show is so

* Koete

fucking

* Boston Dan

Not a whole lot.

* Koete

dumb

* Venneh

Chris Sims:

Joss Whedon's personal hell is having someone read the dialogue to Smallville to him between shouts of "THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE WROUGHT!!"

* Koete

Pretty much.

* Boston Dan

This is just a perfect storm of "holy SHIT this is dumb".

* Koete

HEY GUYS! THERE'S A FUCKING PLANET COMING!

* Boston Dan

Look up! LOOK UP FOR CHRISSAKES!

* Koete

Lex? Lionel? Someone worth a damn, please show up.

* Venneh

Yeah, guys, your rage may make the mainpage.

*

7:40 PM

* Boston Dan

It's like, let's take a master thespian of Erica Durance's caliber and give her these utterly shit lines to say and see what happens!

* Boston Dan

And then have Clark look distracted and confused!

* Boston Dan

Like always!

* Koete

Comics most famous couple, everybody!

* Boston Dan

My head hurts.

* Koete

Tess just got abducted by the FBI for some reason.

* Venneh

Alcobooze will save you.

* Venneh

Deux ex SHIELD!

* Boston Dan

I'm tempted.

* Koete

Ghost Jonathan got dressed up.

* Boston Dan

Well, he tucked his shirt in.

*

7:45 PM

* KnightWing

has entered the room

* Venneh

He has an afterlife wardrobe?

* Koete

Heh.'

* Boston Dan

Hey KW

* Venneh

Hey Aaron.

* Venneh

Welcome to hell.

* KnightWing

Oh my god.

* KnightWing

you are

* Koete

I think it's just Clark imagining him, not an actual ghost.

* Koete

I hope.

* KnightWing

I wondered if you'd find some way to make this into a terrible episode

* Koete

Moi?

* Venneh

Erm, you may be in the wrong place, Aaron.

* KnightWing

lemme put it this way. I can admit when Smallville's stupid and terrible. I'm cool with that. But, honestly, this is not one of those times.

* KnightWing

Thus far, I'm absolutely loving 90% of it.

* KnightWing

Anyway, just wanted to check in during commercial

* Koete

You're fucking with us.

* KnightWing

Nope

* KnightWing

totally not

* Koete

Actually surprising.

* KnightWing

Anyway, have fun ranting! I'll see you later in the Smallville thread, where I'm sure many debates will ensue.

* KnightWing

has left the room

* Venneh

OH my.

* Boston Dan

It'd be dull if everyone agreed, I suppose

* Venneh

Apokolips is gonna interrupt the wedding, isn't it?

*

7:50 PM

* Koete

I'm sorry, they referenced Cade Skywalker. That's enough proof how terrible it is.

* Boston Dan

Chloe's Gold Kryptonite Sense is tingling!

* Koete

Heh.

* Venneh

Chloe: the only character on the show that still has a brain.

* Koete

My channel just cut back to commercials after the shots of Chloe and the rings. Dunno what's happening.

* Boston Dan

Olover/Clark fight.

* Boston Dan

Holy shit, it's the One Ring!

* Koete

Okay, that was bizarre. Back now.

* Boston Dan

"you have a good heart! Let it guide you!" ACTUAL LINE.

* Koete

How did everyone leave?

* Boston Dan

Chloe chased them out.

* Koete

Yep.

* Venneh

IT WAS ALL IN THEIR HEADS

* Koete

Of course.

* Koete

Ha! That was lame as hell.

* Boston Dan

The moral of the story is, all you have to do is Believe In Yourself!

* Boston Dan

Aaaaaaand there's Apokolips.

* Koete

NOW they notice the huge planet.

* Venneh

Cause we've reached the hour mark.

* Venneh

So, one hour in, how are you guys doing?

*

7:55 PM

* Boston Dan

Eh. It's not very good, but it's not far from what I expected.

* Boston Dan

And where the fuck is Lex?

* Koete

I love all these "Smallville Moments" that are giving them an opportunity to jerk themselves off.

* Venneh

Are they actually, you know, good?

* Koete

He won't be in until Part 2 I'm guessing.

* Boston Dan

Yeah, I guess

* Boston Dan

The Smallville Moments?

* Venneh

Last fifteen minutes.

* Venneh

Calling it now.

* Venneh

And yes Dan

* Boston Dan

I've only seen one, and it was basically some guy tweeting "I less than three Smallville! LOLZ!"

* Koete

Oh wait.

* Boston Dan

He... can see... Pa Kent.

* Koete

No way.

* Venneh

What

* Venneh

Oliver??

*

8:00 PM

* Boston Dan

Dude, put on the suit and punch someone in the face so we can go home.

* Boston Dan

Clark.

* Venneh

I thought he was a ghost?

* Koete

I thought they were going to have Darkseid use Jonathan's corpse.

* Koete

I don't know if he's imagining him or if he's a ghost.

* Boston Dan

The planet is dying, but there's time for hugs!

* Venneh

That would have been brillaint, Chris

* Venneh

Why would they do thata/

* Venneh

*that?

* Koete

Yes, let's trust Superman's Asshole Dad, Jor-El.

* Boston Dan

I just realized that I'm facepalming.

* Koete

Thanks for that one, Chris Sims.

* Venneh

David Uzumeri:

So are you guys just now getting to the part where Jonathan Kent says a whole bunch of stuff that makes absolutely no sense for his character, and then Martha shows up and is all like "oh yeah your dad is totally right" and it's a bunch of random characterization? Is Martha a hallucination or not? Where's Conner?

Why am I asking "Where's Conner" in the finale of Smallville?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE

* Koete

Oh, it's guaranteed to happen Dan.

8:05 PM

* Koete

Huh. My screen is black.

* Venneh

Thor is saving you?

* Venneh

Apparently John Glover just showed up.

* Boston Dan

These commercials are not for you!

* Koete

Wait what!?

* Boston Dan

Really? I haven't seen him.

* Venneh

I'm going off of CA's stream, which may be ahead of you two.

* Venneh

He's coming soon.

* Venneh

It's all going to be okay.

* Boston Dan

There he is!

* Koete

I better not have missed one of the only things that make this show worth any amount of a damn.

* Venneh

And then, Lionel and his hair showed up.

* Venneh

And it was all okay for another five minutes.

* Boston Dan

Okay, as long as John Glover is here, it could be okay.

* Koete

Okay, we're back.

* Boston Dan

FrankenLex! Apparently.

* Koete

Naturally.

* Venneh

Okay, that works.

* Venneh

It's good enough.

* Venneh

Just give me moar Rosenbaum, and it'll all be okay.

* Koete

Of course he is.

*

8:10 PM

* Koete

And there's Lex.

* Venneh

Does he have a brain at least?

* Koete

Well yeah.

* Boston Dan

They're gonna steal Tess' heart to pu tin Lex.

* Venneh

...Okay?

* Koete

That was some ninja shit.

* Boston Dan

And so much for Lionel.

* Koete

Damn.

* Koete

Well that kinda sucks.

* Venneh

Is Darksied part of it?

* Boston Dan

So it would seem.

* Koete

Yeah. He just showed up with a kinda crappy voice.

* Boston Dan

KINDA crappy?

* Boston Dan

So yeah, Darkseid pulled Lionel's heart out of his chest.

*

8:15 PM

* Koete

Sorry, seriously crappy.

* Venneh

...

* Venneh

When did Darkseid become an Aztec god?

* Koete

Yeah. Apparently Lionel turned Darkseid down a few episodes back.

* Boston Dan

Smallville memories! Thanks, Tom Welling!

* Boston Dan

Ugh.

* Boston Dan

ROSENBAUM!!!!

* Koete

Lex is waking up.

* Venneh

Is he Frankenmoaning?

* Koete

No.

* Koete

Anti-Life.

* Boston Dan

Right now Clark is explaining the plot to Lois.

* Koete

Anti-Life Equation.

* Koete

And the Wall of Weird got a mention.

* Boston Dan

"According to the bank records, they havbe limitless funds!" LIke there's an infinity symbol there?

* Venneh

Lex is anti-life?

* Koete

Are they really doing research in the middle of the apocalypse.

* Venneh

They had to pad the ep somehow.

*

8:20 PM

* Koete

No, they really didn't.

* Koete

Still calling him the Blur.

* Boston Dan

Hello Clark!

* Koete

LEX LUTHOR MOTHERFUCKERS!

* Venneh

Victory pose?

* Koete

Oh you fuckers. You made Lex make a pun. You sons of bitches.

* Boston Dan

Hmm... Lex is kind of a whiny little bitch right now.

* Venneh

How did they manage that?

* Koete

Well, it is tapping into his comics mindset.

* Boston Dan

I mean, there's a badass motherfucker lurking under there, but I don't know f there's time to show it.

*

8:25 PM

* Koete

I'm sure he'll do something before this ends.

* Boston Dan

He better.

* Koete

And we have some crappy Smallville mythology getting brought in.

* Venneh

Apparently Green Arrow is now fully becoming Batman.

* Koete

Well, I have a black screen again. I don't know what the hell is wrong with my CW station.

* Boston Dan

How awesome would it be if Batman just ran onscreen, Looked at the camera, said "I'm Batman" and ran away?

* Boston Dan

I'm still in commercial.

*

8:30 PM

* Boston Dan

There we go. yeah, he's totally Batman.

* Venneh

No. I'm sure Green Arrow will, though.

* Koete

Ok, back.

* Boston Dan

So GA just kind of walks in, says, "Okay, I'm gonna shoot you now, so stay still, 'kay?" and Darkseid's mnions just stand there and get shot.

* Koete

Wonderful.

* Venneh

Cause he's Batman.

* Boston Dan

Oh, Lois, shut UP.

* Koete

Well to be fair, these government people are dickheads.

*

8:35 PM

* Boston Dan

Is it wrong that I kinda want to see this planet get destroyed right now?

* Koete

I'd like to see Lex save it.

* Koete

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

* Venneh

?

* Boston Dan

Oh, John Glover....

* Koete

The Darkseid voice! Holy shit!

* Koete

Don't blame John Glover.

* Boston Dan

I don't blame him, I just hate to see what they're makinghim do.

* Koete

Oh hey, Superman The Movie reference.

* Boston Dan

Clip show!

* Venneh

Is he a zombie?

* Koete

Oh my God. They're doing a clip show.

* Boston Dan

Fuck, Clark, stop watching the highlight reel and DO SOMETHING.

* Boston Dan

PLANET IS DYING< CLARK.

* Koete

This is so laughably terrible.

* Boston Dan

Flying. At last.

* Venneh

Yeah, Chris, how's that Jack and Coke doing?

*

8:40 PM

* Boston Dan

These Smallville Memories are so fucking masturbatory.

* Koete

So Clark

* Venneh

Oh baby. Oh baby.

* Koete

So Clark's first action flying? Going through Darkseid, who might have been a person and not a smoke monster.

* Venneh

....

* Boston Dan

Superman, everybody!

* Venneh

Like, bursting him into a thousand pieces?

* Koete

Crows and smoke.

* Boston Dan

Luckily, Lionel was already dead, so e's not actually a bloody smear on the wall, but Clark didn't know that.

* Koete

Chris Sims: Oh my God I just started laughing my head off at Clark obliterating Lionel's corpse. THE DUDE HAS GOT NO MERCY.

* Koete

Lex is back.

* Venneh

For actuals?

* Boston Dan

Okay, Rosenbaum. Be awesome.

* Koete

He's talking to Tess.

* Boston Dan

Aaaaaand so much for Tess.

* Koete

And he just stabbed her.

* Koete

Wait, what?

* Venneh

Wha?

* Venneh

Why?

* Venneh

Because there can only be one Luthor?

*

8:45 PM

* Boston Dan

That's what this show needs! A Quickening!

* Venneh

Wait.

* Venneh

I'm looking at the CA Feed.

* Venneh

No way.

* Venneh

No.

* Venneh

Fucking.

* Venneh

Way.

* Boston Dan

Clip shoooooooow!

* Venneh

Uhm.

* Venneh

Did they just mindwipe people?

* Koete

I can't believe it.

* Venneh

Holy shit.

* Boston Dan

I... think so?

* Venneh

They did.

* Koete

Lex at least.

* Venneh

How does that make you feel, guys?

* Boston Dan

It was a little clumsy, but it had to be done.

* Koete

Pretty much.

* Boston Dan

PUT ONTHE SUIT AND HIT SOMETHING.

* Koete

Lex's reasoning for killing Tess was terrible though.

* Boston Dan

There we go.

* Venneh

??

*

8:50 PM

* Boston Dan

Aaaargh! so close!

* Koete

Well, it's on in a CGI kind of way.

* Venneh

9:50

Chris Sims:

Nine years, nine months, one hour and fifty minutes.

* Boston Dan

And only when the planets are actually touching does there seem to be any effect.

* Venneh

David Uzumeri:

And us, for the past year. I still can't believe that we've gotten to this point -- Superman fighting Darkseid with Darkseid played by John Glover, Superman actually flying, Jor-El actually being a heroic guiding force -- I dunno, we've got ten minutes left, but this pretty much screwed up everything that makes Superman Superman on every level, even though it was attempting to be a character study.

*

8:55 PM

* Koete

Y'know, for a debut appearance, defeating Apokolips is a pretty good one.

* Koete

And he just chucked it away.

* Boston Dan

They're really very hesitant to actually SHOW him in the suit, though.

* Koete

This comic is insane.

* Koete

And there's the John Williams music.

* Koete

Speedy allusion.

* Boston Dan

Jimmy Olsen!

* Koete

They brought Ashmore back to be the real Jimmy.

* Venneh

Har.

* Boston Dan

President luthor

* Venneh

Har.

* Venneh

Har.

* Koete

President Luthor. Nice.

* Koete

Wait...they put off their marriage for 7 years.

* Venneh

Hahahahahahahahha!

* Boston Dan

I'm a little underwhelmed.

* Koete

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

* KnightWing

has entered the room

* Venneh

?

* KnightWing

Kay. So....

*

9:00 PM

* Boston Dan

Hey KW

* Venneh

Hey

* Koete

All they showed was him opening the shirt.

* Venneh

Has Chris finally gone around the bend?

* KnightWing

Part 1: 9/10. Heartfelt, warm, and well-done.

* KnightWing

Part 2: 3/10. WTF. Seriously.

* Boston Dan

We waited 10 years for that?

* Venneh

Yes.

* Venneh

Yes, we did.

* Boston Dan

They couldn't even get Welling in the fucking suit for five minutes?

* Venneh

Final thoughts, guys?

* KnightWing

It's more than we were told we were getting 10 years ago

* KnightWing

but

* KnightWing

On the finale, or the series?

* Koete

Man, even for the finale, this show hasn't had enough being terrible.

* Venneh

Either of the above.

* KnightWing

Finale: Not the worst it could have been, but far from the best.

* KnightWing

Series: A tumultuous torrent of triumph and terribleness.

* KnightWing

I like to think of Smallville like that stupid cousin everyone has that constantly gets into trouble. You love 'em like family, but have to accept that they're going to screw up majorly rather often.

* TFG1Mike

has entered the room

* Koete

Really, I found the finale laughably terrible. The show itself was a lot of dreck with some worthwhile aspects.

* Boston Dan

I dunno. It was pretty much what I expected, I guess. I didn't have high expectations. But I really thought we'd get more in the last few minutes than we got.

* TFG1Mike

wow

* Boston Dan

Hi Mike

* TFG1Mike

hey dan.... hey all

* TFG1Mike

lol

*

9:05 PM

* TFG1Mike

so I assume everyone has seen it and we don't have to avoid spoilers here in chat?

* KnightWing

aye, sir

* Venneh

Pretty much.

* TFG1Mike

loved jonathan back and not just in 1 scene

* KnightWing

I thought his return was surprisingly well-done

* TFG1Mike

hated the fade from clark in space to the comic book lol that was lame

* Koete

They did need him back for the finale, it's true.

* KnightWing

didn't need to explain "how" he was back.

* KnightWing

Yeah, that comic-fade was crap

* KnightWing

I was like "FINALLY WE GET A GOOD LOOK AT HIM IN THE SUIT?crap I HATE YOU SMALLVILLE"

* Koete

Darkseid was fucking awful.

* TFG1Mike

obviously LOVED the music at the end lol that goes without saying

* KnightWing

then the John Williams and the shirt pull kinda made things a little better

* KnightWing

Agreed, totally

* KnightWing

with Darkseid being crap

* TFG1Mike

darkseid was lame it would have been better if it was ironside

* KnightWing

and Green Arrow killing Desaad, GG, and the other one that I forget? No frakkin way

* Koete

Godfrey.

* KnightWing

ah yes

* TFG1Mike

was the other one supposed to be a weird smallvillian version of kalabak?

* TFG1Mike

oh ok nevermind

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7:50 PM

* Koete

I'm sorry, they referenced Cade Skywalker. That's enough proof how terrible it is.

*Ahem*

CAPE Skywalker.

It wasn't a bad reference. It was a bad quip.

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I stand corrected. I'll downgrade that from "evidence of really terrible writing" to "evidence of terrible writing."

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Today we discussed Earth-2's impending Fall Television line-up including Saved by Veronica Mars and Gallifrey High.

Stavros

It's the last episode of Who next week right?

dc20willsave

Yeah.

dc20willsave

Until the fall.

slothian

in a South Park sense, yes

Stavros

Gonna be a seriously big cliffhanger next week I bet

6:00 PM

slothian

oh, I'll bet

slothian

theoretically, this week's cliffhanger would have been big enough

Koete

Writing reply to Suave.

Stavros

Definitely, although I'm glad it wasn't. Too out of nowhere to be a season-ender

dc20willsave

They'll reveal the Doctor actually never finished Time Medical School.

slothian

I think that's actually a plot point

Stavros

He never completed his gym requirements

dc20willsave

So they take an entire season of him going back to school.

6:05 PM

Stavros

HAH

Stavros

And the Master is there too

dc20willsave

And Romana is the cute girl they all want to date and The Rani is the bitchy head cheerleader.

Stavros

I smell an animated pilot that never gets produced!

Koete

No, science student know it all.

dc20willsave

However, since Davies is producing, somehow Rose ends up in there also.'

Stavros

K9 is the school mascot

Stavros

Davros Acadamy are their chief sporting rivals

Stavros

Just so we can see Daleks trying to play ball games

dc20willsave

And as cheerleaders.

dc20willsave

"Ra-ra-exterminate!"

6:10 PM

Stavros

"Oh Davros you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind oh Davros!

slothian

that would make for a disturbing music video

Koete

dc20willsave

I'm seeing Pink Daleks in short skirts.

Stavros

You should probably put the drink down then

dc20willsave

Yeah.

dc20willsave

Meanwhile, The Master is never seen at the same time as the mysterious War Chief.

Koete

Fantastic.

dc20willsave

The Doctor's Locket is also his TARDIS.

dc20willsave

*locker

Stavros

This show needs to be animated on Nick to avoid being smallvilled up

dc20willsave

But then we can have a moody young Doctor but he's never called The Doctor.

dc20willsave

And they show a scarf in his locker every now and then but it's mainly there to tease you.

Stavros

This is great

dc20willsave

Also, Principal Rassilon has some fucking awesome hair before it gets shaved off after being forced to regenerate during a prank by the Master.

Stavros

Hey, anyone ever watch a show called Party Down?

slothian

we're currently imagining a Dr Who-Saved By The Bell hybrid

slothian

is it a British show?

dc20willsave

Yeah, it was canceled too soon.

6:25 PM

Stavros

Nope, it was on the soon to be airing Torchwood network Stars

Stavros

It's starring a mix of people from Veronica Mars, Parks and Rec and a whole host of others, it's a who's who of TV performers

dc20willsave

So, wait, if we're talking Saved by the Bell, it makes sense. I mean, Zack stopped time all the time on that show. He had to be a time lord.

dc20willsave

It was created by Ron Thomas, the creator of VM.

dc20willsave

Party Down that is.

Stavros

Every episode I'm saying "hey" because I recognise people in it. Good show, highly recommend.

dc20willsave

Not Saved by the Bell.

Stavros

True, it was based on the experiances of Paul Rudd

dc20willsave

Saved by the Bell is nothing like Veronica Mars. If it was, well, SbtB would have been much more interesting.

Stavros

Zack and Kelly might be half-siblings?

dc20willsave

And Jesse solves mysteries.

6:30 PM

Stavros

Belding was arrested and then released for the murder of Lisa Turtle

Stavros

Turns out it was Screech who did it all along.

dc20willsave

And while most of the first season looks like Kelly will end up with Zach, she ends up with Slater instead.

dc20willsave

And Slater beats everyone up.

6:35 PM

Stavros

Green light

Stavros

Looks like we've got our autumn lineup here on Earth-2.

dc20willsave

Along with A Pup Named Cujo Doo.

slothian

with any luck, the FYEO sequel may be debuting in the autumn

Stavros

Finally getting on to James Bond Jr?

dc20willsave

Bond. James Bond Jr.

slothian

well, who wouldn't want to hear a podcast about that?!?

dc20willsave

I would.

slothian

see, I wouldn't

Stavros

I still prefer the chat show idea

slothian

the Tirades has that base covered

Stavros

Earth-2's own Jonathon Ross

slothian

heh!

slothian

I think you'll like it once you hear what it is

dc20willsave

Today, Ian and Adham discuss their favorite teas and Bond Girl Swimsuits.

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Tonight, Will is become the destroyer of childhoods:

* Koete

dc20willsave

Slugsworth in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory acts like a pedophile.

Koete

Don't ruin my childhood memories Will.

* Koete

dc20willsave

I'm sorry, the way this man just shows up and whispers into the ears of children. In the case of Charlie, he corners him in a dark alley.

Koete

Fine, Wonka hired a pedophile.

* Koete

dc20willsave

Also, Chris, if you think me calling Slugsworth a pedo, I just remembered a site I used to go to that might take even more edge off your nostalgia.

Venneh

oh?

dc20willsave

http://www.saynotogrampajoe.com/index.php

Venneh

HAH

Koete

Ha ha, oh man.

And then, later:

* dc20willsave

The schnozberrys taste like shnozberrys.

*

11:25 PM

* Koete

Clearly metaphors for boobs.

* Venneh

Or dick.

* Venneh

* Koete

More likely balls.

* Venneh

Perhaps taint, for the more adventerous?

* Koete

Hooray for corrupting childhood!

* dc20willsave

It's much more innocent. A schnoz is your nose and what grows in your nose?

* Venneh

Earth-2: corrupting your childhood since 2005

* Venneh

Blood and or boogers?

* dc20willsave

Boogrs. Blood grows in marrow.

* Venneh

Nosebleeds, man.

*

11:30 PM

* dc20willsave

I still think Veruca should have gotten the factory.

* dc20willsave

At least in the original.

* dc20willsave

Violet should have in the reimagining.

* Venneh

How so?

* dc20willsave

Veruca has to drive to get what she wants. She'll push to make Wonka Chocolate into the number one provider of chocolate in the world.

* dc20willsave

In the newer film, Violet's only crime is wanting to be successful. Once again, she would hav worked tirelessly to make Wonka chocolate successful.

* Venneh

But if we're going for the moral good guy wins thing, Veruca's a little shit, and Violet's the kind of competitive that leads into obsession and psychotic breaks

*

11:35 PM

* dc20willsave

True but Charlie is too nice. Wonka has a level of ruthlessness to him. Charlie will accidently let the Oompa Loompa's unionize or get a fairer wage and, considering that giant candy fields don't pay for themselves, him winning eventually means nothing and the greandparents are back to living in a disgusting bed together.

* Koete

Goddammit Will.

* Venneh

Tonight is the night of ruining childhoods.

* dc20willsave

This isn't even taking into account when Veruca or Violet become the trophy wife of Slugworth and tip off immigration to the legion of workers in that factory. Then again, this is assuming that Wonka wasn't lieing about the children surviving all their accidents in the original since we never see any of them leave the factory.

*

11:40 PM

* Koete

:gah:

* dc20willsave

And considering the number of death traps waiting to happen in that factory, it's just a matter of time before Charlie's mom, looking for the cabbage water room, accidentally ends up in the Chocoexplosion chamber.

* dc20willsave

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Wonka eventually has to announce "The Second Annual quest For the Golden Tickets" after Charlie disappears in the vicinity of Mansion of Count Chocula.

* dc20willsave

Within a decade, someone eventually notices that Wonka has continues his tradition of no one leaving the Factory.

* Venneh

And then we get Gobstoppers

* dc20willsave

Oh, the Gobstoppers are just there to lure the children into temptation. If Wonka had honestly made a candy that you could suck on and it never gets smaller, than he's cure world hunger.

* Venneh

Hah, I was referring to the spoof.

* Koete

Yes...yes he would have.

* dc20willsave

So, at the end when Charlie gives back the gobstopper, if Wonka hdn't changed his mind at the last second, the entire family will be doomed to eventual starvation.

* Koete

...sigh.

* dc20willsave

Thankfully, Wonka does and instead decides to risk everyone's life on a crazy flying elevator.

*

11:55 PM

* Koete

Because he's really God.

* dc20willsave

Once again, a device that, in the hands of a person with proper business sense, would solve almost all the world's problems. We're talking about clean transportation that causes no pollution and can fly.

* dc20willsave

Wonka

* dc20willsave

's content to waste it on himself.

* Venneh

I dunno, doesn't that run on happiness and love ad kittens? that's not exactly a renewable resource. xD

* dc20willsave

If it did, then having Mike Teevee or Grandpa Joe in it would have caused it to crash into main street.

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Will, on the correlation between geometry, meat eating, and sexuality:

5:15 PM

* dc20willsave

has entered the room

* dc20willsave

Promise I'll be kind but I won't stop until that boy is mine.

* dc20willsave

We're plastic but we still have fun.

* Koete

has entered the room

* dc20willsave

Hey Chris.

*

5:20 PM

* Koete

Hey Will.

* dc20willsave

How goes it this evening?

* Koete

I'll be working on the final segments for The Doctor and putting everything together.

* dc20willsave

Sweet.

*

5:25 PM

* Koete

How goes vacation?

* dc20willsave

Well, I have a slight headache, my roommates ate my dinner, and I'm feeling sore for no real reason, alright.

* Venneh

has entered the room

* Venneh

Hey dudes

* Koete

Ouch.

* Koete

Hey Hannah.

* Venneh

Yeah, roomies can be assholes like that

* Venneh

It helps that most of mine are vegetarian and thus won't touch the meat

* dc20willsave

Yeah, fucktards.

* dc20willsave

What are they, gay?>

* Venneh

No, they all have girlfriends as far as I'm aware

* Venneh

They're just environmental studies majors

* dc20willsave

No excuse.

* dc20willsave

Straight men can't be vegitarians.

* dc20willsave

They're at least bi.

* Venneh

The one's a freshman and is browbeat by his gf

* Venneh

The other's very very hetero

* dc20willsave

And if they're bi, they sneak fish and the occasional piece of chicken.

* Venneh

And Blake I'm pretty sure has a gf, or is interested in lady folks

* dc20willsave

Straight men love meat. Therefore, they don't love filling their mouths with meaty goodness, then they're gay.

* Venneh

...I may need to quote that one. oO

*

5:30 PM

* dc20willsave

Chris, do you love the taste of a huge piece of meat in your mouth?

* Koete

To keep the joke going, I had sausage for dinner.

* dc20willsave

There you go.

* dc20willsave

Now, before you say,

* Venneh

I'm marinating my meat currently

* dc20willsave

"Will you're gay" let me point out it's like a rectangle.

* dc20willsave

You can be gay and like meat but you can't be straight and be a vegetarian.

* dc20willsave

Just like how a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.

* Venneh

Will's applying the principles of geometry to sexuality

* Venneh

Hm.

*

5:35 PM

* Stavros

has entered the room

* dc20willsave

Yeah, but we're not talking about Lesbians. That involves some serious trignometry.

* dc20willsave

And all the right angles also.

* Koete

Hey Tom.

* Venneh

Hey Tom

* dc20willsave

Just fucking confusing.

* dc20willsave

Hey Tom.

* dc20willsave

You enjoy a nice meaty piece of steak in your mouth, right?

* Stavros

I have no idea what's going on here

* Venneh

Just go with it

* Venneh

I'll get the kool aid, it'll make things easier.

* dc20willsave

I'm explaining that being a vegetarian is exclusive to liking cock.

* Stavros

In that case yes. I love meat

* D.W.

has entered the room

* Venneh

Hey Dubs

* dc20willsave

So yeah, Hannah, check your roommates iPods. They have some Madonna on there.

* Stavros

Oh that ain't true. Half the women I know are veggies, and that's the half that gets around.

* dc20willsave

Hey Dubs.

* D.W.

hey kids

* Koete

Hey Dubs.

* Stavros

Hey dubs

* dc20willsave

Like I said, Women demand that you apply some crazy proofs and number theory in there.

* Stavros

Hmm, what's that sulpher smell coming from the fridge?

* Venneh

Bisexual women.

* Venneh

GO.

* D.W.

I'm confused

* Stavros

Oh, it must mean the eggs have ripened

* Koete

Someone's on track for a Nobel prize.

* Stavros

Wait a minute eggs don't ripen

* Stavros

EGGS DON'T RIPEN!

* Venneh

Which means you're at least bi, Dubs

*

5:40 PM

* dc20willsave

Oh god, those eggs are BOMBS!!!

* Venneh

If I understand the line of logic we're on currently

* Venneh

And I really don't

* dc20willsave

Let the record show I didn't say that.

* D.W.

well of course I'm bilingual

* D.W.

you know that

Also, Dubs' love life is looking up:

* Venneh

So, what're folks up to tonight?

* dc20willsave

Watching Mulan.

* Stavros

Watching The Critic

* dc20willsave

Awesome.

* Koete

Skiing.

* D.W.

watching my neighbor

*

5:50 PM

* Stavros

And preparing my immortal soul for Transformers 3 tomorrow.

* D.W.

she changed the curtains, but I think she's just playing hard to get

* dc20willsave

HA!

* Stavros

lol

* Koete

Tom, there's still time. You don't have to do this.

* Venneh

Haha

* Venneh

Oh Tom

* Venneh

Do the theatres in Britain let you sneak in booze?

* D.W.

no one in their right mind nakedly dances to The Eagles in unless they're asking for it

* Stavros

I'm just so confused

* Venneh

Playing a bit of FFX-2 and then cooking up dinner, the chicken's been marinating for two hours, one on each side

* Stavros

Which song?

* Venneh

Also, Will: LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS! TO DEFEAT! THE HUUUUUUUUUNS

* D.W.

song?

* Stavros

How could I, make a man, out of you!

* dc20willsave

...that song just started.

* D.W.

oh no, I mean there's a bunch of eagles perched aside her window

* Venneh

HAH

* D.W.

it's quite the show

* Venneh

That is awesome timing, ladies and gentlemen

* dc20willsave

Or you're stalking me.

* Stavros

Dubs, just put whatever you're having in a plastic container and send it to the lab.

* Venneh

You see Will, there are actually cameras set up in your house.

* dc20willsave

Which is a good time to point out that the bright side of growing up in a rural area is that you learn how to use a shotgun pretty early on.

* D.W.

this doesn't feel particularly scientific

* D.W.

wait, I'll throw on my lab coat

* Venneh

It's about as scientific as our review of the Supergirl costumes last night

* Stavros

and inexplicable welding goggles?

* Venneh

Don't forget your evil laugh!

* Stavros

SCIENCE!

* Koete

Dubs is publishing that in a respected academic journal.

* Venneh

Stand back everyone, I'm going to SCIENCE!!

*

5:55 PM

* D.W.

I seem to have misplaced my googles

* D.W.

and my goggles

* D.W.

this is more disastrous than I thought

* D.W.

oh wait, she's opening the window

* Stavros

At least tell me you're using a set of tubes that look like the glassblower had hiccups

* D.W.

wow, I didn't know you could sidearm a hammer

* D.W.

I don't have tubes, per say

* D.W.

well, no clean ones, at least

* D.W.

I had attempted to cross an axolotl with an angora rabbit

* D.W.

I'm still trying to get stains out of the wash

* dc20willsave

You should sneak into her house and leave her a dozen roses with a note saying soon.That'll show her that you're interested.

* Venneh

Well, that's what you get for trying to make Pokemon a real thing

*

6:00 PM

* D.W.

hey, I can already get the axolotl into the ball

* D.W.

it's just the throwing and fighting I need him to work on

* Stavros

I'm still working on fitting the animals in the balls. I've worked my way up to cats

* D.W.

no, I just sneak in a cut off a lock of her hair every week

* D.W.

wouldn't want to go and do something creepy

* Venneh

No, drawing is the way to go

* Venneh

Draw her while she sleeps

* Venneh

And leave it by her bedside

* Stavros

Come on Dubs, hair? Women notice that. Just clip her toenails.

* Venneh

Or string up all her fish

* Stavros

Classic romantic moves there

* Stavros

Then kill her IT teacher in her librarians bed.

* D.W.

once I find a way to fit the pygmy marmoset's into the ball, I think I got her

* D.W.

I'll use their Hypno attack

* Venneh

You have to make sure they don't explode into a bloody mess when you throw them at her window

* Venneh

That's kind of important

* D.W.

my biology book says it'll be SUPER EFFECTIVE

* Stavros

Bah, go with the classics and use bubblebeam. She's a rock type right?

* D.W.

in parts

* D.W.

she's still in a fragile state, after that mysterious yet handsome burglar killed her husband

* D.W.

she's on the rebound

* Stavros

When did this happen?

*

6:05 PM

* dc20willsave

Just for the love of god don't use Sludge or Ooze.

* D.W.

last Thursday

* D.W.

I had to have the burglar suit back by Friday

* dc20willsave

Is it the one with the comically oversized bag with the money symbol?

* D.W.

well, I had to put the body parts in something

* Stavros

Yeah, but you didn't have to kill that old man for his car on the way out

* D.W.

that was just to make it interesting

* Stavros

His nephew was a wrestler, he might have tried to stop you

* dc20willsave

Besides, if the burglar had to steal a car, it's obvious that he doesn't live next door!

* D.W.

exactly

* D.W.

whilst making my getaway, I even met another woman

* D.W.

I t-boned her camero

* D.W.

that's not a euphemism, sadly

* D.W.

it didn't work out between us

* D.W.

I'm a Libra, she had a stick shift in her neck, wouldn't have worked anyway

*

6:10 PM

* D.W.

helped to look like her husband died in a crash, though they couldn't figure out why the body parts were cut out to look like members of the Partridge Family

* D.W.

so yeah, in conclusion, my sex life is looking on the up and up

* Venneh

Lucky bastard.

* Venneh

I can cook, if that means anything for sexual appeal.

* dc20willsave

Awesome.

* dc20willsave

I'm apparently a part of Satan so I think that makes me a bad boy.

* Venneh

Makes sense.

* Venneh

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=10150239084032309&set=a.450974632308.239792.538887308&type=1&theater

* Venneh

Chicken, for great success and minimal oil burns!

*

6:15 PM

* D.W.

completely unrelated to to the topic of my sex life, I've just discovered a J-Pop group with 58 members

* dc20willsave

But yeah, I half think Sarah Palin hired Michelle Bachman to start talking so she wouldn't look as completely bat shit insane.

* dc20willsave

...awesome.

* Venneh

AK48?

* D.W.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AKB48

* Koete

Ha!

* Venneh

Yep that's the ones

* Venneh

And how many are underage? :{

* D.W.

they have TEAMS

* Venneh

*:P

* D.W.

like they need to tag in and out of the org-erm concerts

* Dread

has entered the room

* dc20willsave

They have a dating simulation video game.

* dc20willsave

Hey Des.

* Venneh

I had to sing to that damn "aitakatta" song for Japanese class

* Venneh

Hey Des

* Dread

Yo!

* Koete

Hey Night Des.

* Dread

What is up?

* dc20willsave

Correction, they have TWO dating simulation games and the second is set on Guam.

* D.W.

naturally

* Venneh

Mostly the room is full of crack today

* dc20willsave

Not much, debating what to do with the rest of my evening.

* Venneh

Dubs is stalking someone with Eagles and is a serial killer apparently

* Venneh

I maded food

* Venneh

Will's using meat and geometry to explain sexuality

* Stavros

The alternative to down

* Venneh

And the rest of them are looking at us and wondering if we should be committed

* Dread

the usual then?

* Koete

Pretty much.

* Venneh

Yep.

*

6:20 PM

* D.W.

oh god

* dc20willsave

Quite.

* dc20willsave

What?

* D.W.

googled the dating sim

* D.W.

made the mistake of clicking links to certain forums

* Koete

Oh shit. We. Are. Fucked.

* dc20willsave

...

* Dread

i don't get it

* dc20willsave

You should probably kill your browser history. NOW!

* D.W.

hentai games are serious business

* Dread

i feel I type that every time I come into chat

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A discussion of Fanfiction involving the various podcasters goes about as well as can be expected.

dc20willsave

You know the bright side to have a lower distribution is that no one has done any Earth-2.net fanfiction.

Koete

Heh.

dc20willsave

Think of the insane pairings that someone could create.

Venneh

Crackiest pairing, go.

dc20willsave

I feel that Tom/Ian would be very popular.

Stavros

We'd never last

Venneh

That's what AU is for. xD

Koete

Des/James

Venneh

Des/Kell

Stavros

Ian/Dubs

dc20willsave

Kel/Adham.

Somehow I see the Ian/Dubs fanfic involving "rituals" to make Dubs trully British.

Venneh

Will/Adham.

And oO

dc20willsave

Oh god, the Will/Adham fanfic would end with murder and me saying, "He had it coming."

6:40 PM

Venneh

That's some kinky shit.

Stavros

So wrong

dc20willsave

I never said that a Will fanfic would be bright and sunny.

Stavros

You know there's Daily show fanfiction

Koete

I'm sure there are porn drawings on Tumblr.

Venneh

I'm aware, I've seen some of it

Stavros

John Oliver brought it up on Late Night

So weird

dc20willsave

...oh god, there's probably Teletubby fanfics.

Koete

Goddammit, Will.

Stavros

Involving their antennae

Venneh

http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Teletubbies%20-%20Fandom/works

Have fun with that one, I'm not touching it with a 20 foot pole.

Koete

You came up with that link pretty fast.

Venneh

It's called the magic of google.

dc20willsave

Yeah Hannah. Is there something you'd like to tell us?

Stavros

Very suspect Hannah

Venneh

It's not that hard. :P

Will, remember I have dirt on you to last us into the next decade. :)

Stavros

Who doesn't have dirt on Will.

dc20willsave

And any attempt to use dirt on Will results in MAD.

And I'll be back. Going to get good.

Stavros

Many alluring desserts?

dc20willsave

*food

Venneh

I thought the d stood for drinking.

dc20willsave

Mutually Assured Destruction.

Koete

Moosen and Ducks.

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The Earth-2 Chat Room's thoughts on The Day of the Doctor.

dc20willsave


So, thoughts?
Venneh
SASASSZSAAAFDSLFUESWJFOOWIJAAA.
Kscriv
I wish Ecc would have taken the 3 minutes
Koete
TOM BAKER
Kscriv
otherwise very enjoyable
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I liked it
slothian
well, that was quite good!
Pan-dub
i just drooled into my chinese
i bloody lvoed that
Rob the kid
has entered the room
4:10 PM
slothian
greetings!
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The cameo at the end would have been better if Baker hadn't gone around telling everyone about it
Rob the kid
Amazing
Kscriv
so C. Baker and McCoy are the only 2 living Docs left to not film new stuff for the new series
Pan-dub
i didn't hear about it, so loved it =D
Rob the kid
I never heard about Baker
Venneh
Baker was hinting last minute a few days ago.
Delete
He gave an interview to the Huffington Post about it last week
dc20willsave
If you can call hinting outright talking about it.'
Delete
I am in the special is a helluva hint
Koete
I don't give a time travelling shit, as soon as I heard his voice, my grin broke my face into pieces.
dc20willsave
Heh.
Pan-dub
if you can find a stream of BBC3 Ian and Susan have just been interviews
Rob the kid
So does the ending imply that the four doctor somehow retired
Venneh
I may have been screaming a bit.
Pan-dub
seeing capaldi's eyes made me explode
4:15 PM
slothian
Capaldi has recognisable eyes
Pan-dub
one of my wallpapers is just his eyes
dc20willsave
I can see that.
I'm happy they worked a Capaldi appearance in.
slothian
Was "Rose" essentially the Bad Wolf essence then?
dc20willsave
I think so comboed with the sentience of The Moment.
Pan-dub
no I think the moment chose Rose as its form
slothian
right
Venneh
I honestly didn't give a shit as she didn't dominate the special like I was fearing.

I'd watch these three Doctors grumping at each other all day.
Pan-dub
did anyone catch the explanation into why Tom Baker was there

as in the science-y reason rather than the "holy shit it's Tom Baker" reason
dc20willsave
Not quite but ehh, whatever.
Venneh
Four retired at some point and curated things to make this all possible
slothian
He's The Curator
dc20willsave
Ah, well, that makes sense.
4:20 PM
Richard Paterson
has entered the room
dc20willsave
Ahoy there.
Pan-dub
Ahoy!
Richard Paterson
Hello!
Venneh
'Ello!
slothian
Paterson!
Richard Paterson
My first time in here, been ages since I've been in a chat room
slothian
helps that Pandy & I are here to help you then!

we can point out all the unsavoury Americans
Richard Paterson
Indeed
Rob the kid
WELL WELCOME BACK
slothian
so, have you been watching any TV this evening, Richard?
Koete
I think Four's there because he's the Fourth Doctor and he can do whatever he wants.
dc20willsave
Yes, yes, you call us unsavory, I say flavorful.
Richard Paterson
Why, was something on? Ohohohohohoho

Loved it
slothian
Yes, Strictly Come Dancing
Kscriv
I call my self Canadian
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Baker implied that the Doctor is going to recycle faces as he regenerates more and more. That's what I thought he said anyway
Kscriv
I taste of maple bacon
dc20willsave
Heh.
Pan-dub
gotta feel for Hurt

The Doctor without a number
4:25 PM
Rob the kid
I assumed that he meant that he dies he'll see his past regenerations again
dc20willsave
He gets a unique title.

The War Doctor.
Richard Paterson
Which is pretty cool
slothian
And didn't CVapaldi say he was the 13th?

*Capaldi
Koete
Yes.

Well, 13 of them.
Richard Paterson
well, 13 incarnations, but 12 Doctors?

Although arguably they made Hurt out to be more the Doctor than any of them
Flashfan1
has entered the room
slothian
g'day!
dc20willsave
True that.

And the party gets bigger.
Flashfan1
Holy hell that was awesome!!
Pan-dub
amen!
Richard Paterson
I hear ya!
slothian
Hurt wasn't the obvious antagonist I thought they were gunning for
dc20willsave
Ditto. I'm glad they made him a protagonist.
Kscriv
indeed
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Retconned the hell out of Tennant's last episode
slothian
a) not sure they did
Richard Paterson
But did it?
slothian
b) even if they did, would that be a bad thing?
4:30 PM
Rob the kid
Did it really retcon Tennant's last episode
Delete
it would not be a bad thing, but the Doctors did nothing to stop Timothy Dalton and the universe didn't implode so that's a retcon to me
Flashfan1
I like Tennant's last episode... why is everyone so down on it?
Richard Paterson
As far as 9, 10 and 11 up to now are concerned, what we've believed up to now has been the case
Pan-dub
I do like the idea that "I don't want to go" was put in there to soften his whiney regenerating
Richard Paterson
And we discover along with 11 that Gallifrey is still out there
Rob the kid
Flashfan1@ people don't like it because is isn't very good.
Venneh
And I'm betting that'll be the Christmas special at least in part
Flashfan1
So... was Tom Baker just a cameo that was cool, or was he supposed to.be The Doctor?
slothian
The End of Time? That story was bullshit

...as I said to my mother at the time...
Flashfan1
Weeell it was fun...
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They implied heavily that he was the Doctor
Venneh
He was the Doctor
Flashfan1
It may not have been perfect (End of Time) but I still enjoyed it...
Venneh
Also the End of Time was one of the first Doctor stories I saw
Richard Paterson
Definitely the Doctor
Venneh
(My chronology in being introduced was a touch messed up)
slothian
re: the specific Timelord aspect, I thought the End of Time essentially thwarted Rassilon and co trying to escape the time bubble

so they'd still be around for "the end"
Flashfan1
... and that's what I thought but just wanted to make sure...
slothian
and if there is no "the end" anymore, then nothing's been undone
dc20willsave
The second part is better but the first is muddled.
Pan-dub
I don't know if anyone's watching the after show party on BBC3 - they just had a train wreck of a live link up with one direction
Flashfan1
I would definitely have to agree with that...
Richard Paterson
'Even' One Direction
slothian
I refuse to watch BBC3 out of principle/taste
Flashfan1
Not about the BBC3 thing...
Richard Paterson
what appeared to be the main draw to the after party, as advertised
Pan-dub
with a 10 second delay, audio feedback and steven moffat putting his head in his hands
4:35 PM
slothian
heh!
dc20willsave
HA!
Richard Paterson
Timey-wimey tour de force
dc20willsave
I almost wish I had decided to watch it.
Pan-dub
the rest of it is cringeworthy bullshit
Rob the kid
Well gladly I don't have BBC3
slothian
well naturally, it's BBC3 programming
Pan-dub
they had matt smith, jenna c, moff and john hurt on a sofa and then stopped talking to them to talk to one fucking direction
slothian
or a BBC programme celebrating a BBC programme
Flashfan1
I've never liked these live things... I hated the pre-show...
slothian
remember Pandy, celebrities > us
Rob the kid
Yeah the pre-show was stupid
Pan-dub
but 'us' wasn't on the sofa

john fucking hurt was!
Richard Paterson
I do love the Companions area though
slothian
true dat
Richard Paterson
Big close up of Matthew Waterhouse
slothian
until One Direction have aliens bursting out opf their stomachs, I can't rate them above John Hurt

Adric's ready for his close-up
Pan-dub
ha! Bernard Cribbins in a big red jumper
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My favorite line "Geronimo!" "Allon-sy!" "Oh for gods sake!"
4:40 PM
Flashfan1
Alright... I'll be off... just wanted to pop in for a bit to contribute...

Bye...
dc20willsave
Laterz.
Pan-dub
toodles
slothian
cheerio!
Richard Paterson
Bye!
Pan-dub
i'm going to pop off myself, I have...things to do
slothian
right, I'm watching this idiocy
Pan-dub
important thiiiings....
Richard Paterson
Pah, thou teacher thou
dc20willsave
Later Pandy.
Pan-dub
ta-ta children of time
Venneh
Evening Pandy
slothian
byee
Richard Paterson
See yous
Flashfan1
has left the room
Venneh
I'm making garlicky brothy oven potatoes
Rob the kid
oooh
Richard Paterson
Mmmmmmmm

I was hoping they'd use those titles at the beginning
Pan-dub
has left the room
slothian
this programme is.......awful
4:45 PM
Richard Paterson
Yes. Yes it is. It's like they didn't know what to actually put in it
dc20willsave
And Next, Miley Cyrus visits the TARDIS!
Rob the kid
but I think this was the best anniversary special.
dc20willsave
Well, look at the competition.
Richard Paterson
Time With Extreme Relative Kinetics

I watched Five Doctors earlier today. Thought this a good different take on multinDoctor
Venneh
There'll be a download in a few hours and I'll likely watch it again
4:50 PM
Rob the kid
Now time to listen to Bigger on the Inside
dc20willsave
Cool.
Richard Paterson
I love how Andrew Hayden Smith still turns up in Who related stuff even 8 years down the line from his 3 episodes
Koete
Bertie Fox @BertieFox 1m
Zoe Ball: “ I hope you don't mind me calling you Adric?” TV HIGHLIGHT OF THE YEAR #DoctorWhoLive
4:55 PM
Venneh
Funny story, I actually just became FB friends with the gentleman who wrote "Dalek" for Nine.
Richard Paterson
Ooh, he's a bit of a legend he is

Wish he still wrote for Who
dc20willsave
Ditto. That was a damn fine story.
Richard Paterson
Every one of his Big Finish audios are amazingly imaginative
5:00 PM
Venneh
https://www.facebook.com/robert.shearman.58
slothian
Right y'all, I'm going to sign off for the evening
Koete
Night Ian.
Venneh
Night Ian
Richard Paterson
See you around, Mr Hutz
slothian
Hope this goes up on that chat thread shining moment thing!

cheerio!
dc20willsave
Night Ian.
Venneh
Well, at this point, we've well cut off any actual chat about the special, lol
Richard Paterson
Heh
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has left the room
Richard Paterson
It was pretty special
slothian
has left the room
Rob the kid
I would still like to talk about it.
Venneh
I need a rewatch to properly process everything
Richard Paterson
Well please do! So would I
Venneh
But that was quite fun

http://31.media.tumblr.com/8812768fbcd5acfa3e75f574fe60ed86/tumblr_mwqhjj8amk1qijoeyo2_500.gif
5:05 PM
Venneh
The Doctor Who tumblr was literally giffing as it went
dc20willsave
That's a thing that will happen.
Stavros
has entered the room
Kscriv
welcome back Tom
Venneh
Hello Tom!
Stavros
Well that was bloody marvellous
dc20willsave
Yes Tom, yes it was.
Stavros
How many of you folks are going to the cinema for it?
dc20willsave
Way too dirt poor for it.
Venneh
The closest one offering it Monday is three hours away.
dc20willsave
I mean, technically I have a bit of extra money but then I don't have money for next weekend.
Venneh
Wisconsin kinda got the shaft.
Stavros
Fair enough.
Kscriv
It sold out today
Richard Paterson
Not sure if it's happening any other dates in the UK
5:10 PM
Stavros
Ah. I'm sure the special extras will be on the dvds
dc20willsave
Like, it's airing at a cinema literally two miles from here but still.
Rob the kid
has left the room
Stavros
The meat and potatoes were obviously the same, but there were a couple of cool pre-show bits.
dc20willsave
Such as?
Stavros
The Sontaran guide to cinematic etiquette.
Richard Paterson
Haha! Excellent
Stavros
I just really enjoyed the special though, wonderfully funny, inventive and promising.
dc20willsave
Oh yeah, I mean, we'll gush for awhile on this and this is definitely one of the better Moffat episodes.
Koete
Can we get a season with John Hurt?
5:15 PM
Stavros
Clara as a schoolteacher just near the original scrapyard was an awesome beginning.
Richard Paterson
For me, Moffat's only written 2 eps I've not liked much

i think he got this pretty much right on
Venneh
I just want John Hurt to come back and snark the fuck out of the reboot Doctors.

Though I think he and Nine would get on.
Richard Paterson
Shame he wasn't there himself really
Stavros
"are you his companions?"
dc20willsave
Yeah. I did keep on expecting Capaldi to pop in longer or for Eccleston to get off his high horse but ehh, whatever.

HA!
Stavros
"am I having a midlife crisis?"
Venneh
The War Doctor Shape Yourselves The Fuck Up Program
Richard Paterson
Mind you, I wasn't expecting to see Capaldi at all
Venneh
John Hurt comes to yoru house and snarks at you
Stavros
I was thinking they might have a hint but the way they did it was fantastic
Richard Paterson
Agreed
Stavros
John Hurt was tremendous too, such a great foil for his other selves
dc20willsave
Like, I will admit I was a little skeptical about them getting such a big name as John Hurt but that was bloody brilliant how they used him.
Venneh
Quite.

Can't wait to watch it again.
Stavros
Rewatching it now
5:25 PM
Stavros
It was a nice subtle inclusion of Billie Piper too
Richard Paterson
In many ways, her most charismatic appearance
dc20willsave
You know, one thing though, this is another Doctor Who Story where we have, supposedly, a historic peace treaty between a Human and an alien species and I half feel like it will never be mentioned again.
Stavros
I annoyed Chris with all the plotholes though
Richard Paterson
Yeah.... What happened to the Zygons?
Stavros
Like the fact that Tennant's final story no longer counts, so why would he regenerate?
dc20willsave
I think it still happened. Actually, wait, it totally did. Hear me out here.
Venneh
They just fucked off into the background
Richard Paterson
I don't get this - why wouldn't it count?
dc20willsave
The guy that the Doctor dealt with here was the General or something. The High Council was meeting in seclusion. So, they plot, Gallifry briefly pops out of the time bubble, gets popped back in, they take their cyanide pills while the Doctor talks to the rational people.
Stavros
I just realised that could work as well
dc20willsave
Let's just say that all the stuff with End of Time took place between the Doctor grabbing The Moment and the Three Doctors going to save shit.

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So between Uncle Des and Prestons horrifying kitchen stories, kidnapping plans, and much else which we all forgot to copy/paste bc we were drunk, the lesson here is we all need to get drunk and converge on chat more.

Gnight you crazy bastards

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