Beware the Batman


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I'm just going to say my peace. I'm not impressed with what I've seen or heard from this. Then again, I haven't seen any footage yet. It may be good. It may be bad. Clearly, it is too early to tell. I am not hating on this. I am waiting to see. People were making their comments about The Dark Knight Rises before they'd seen anything of it, too. That is all I am doing here. That some people like the Adam West Batman apparently is some kind of sticking point. I don't like it, but I recognize that a lot of people do. Again, it is not hate, any more than it is to call a movie bad to someone who liked it.

For the record, I want to be wrong. I want this to be good. I'm not convinced that it will be yet, but maybe it will.

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I'm just going to say my peace. I'm not impressed with what I've seen or heard from this. Then again, I haven't seen any footage yet. It may be good. It may be bad. Clearly, it is too early to tell. I am not hating on this. I am waiting to see. People were making their comments about The Dark Knight Rises before they'd seen anything of it, too. That is all I am doing here. That some people like the Adam West Batman apparently is some kind of sticking point. I don't like it, but I recognize that a lot of people do. Again, it is not hate, any more than it is to call a movie bad to someone who liked it.

For the record, I want to be wrong. I want this to be good. I'm not convinced that it will be yet, but maybe it will.

I think that was meant at me, TDKR comment, so I feel the need to respond to that:

What I meant by that was, you will have people renting/buying/streaming the film when this TV show starts, which means they will be interested in seeing more Batman related material, such as the comics, or whatever TV show is available in that instance, which will be this cartoon. That's all I was saying, it will be the easiest thing someone who wants to see more Batman, will have access to.

Oh, and Glen Murakami was also behind the Teen Titans cartoon you brought up as a defense to other things besides Batman being viable properties. Just saying you can't say, this is going to be shit, or enough of Batman, and then praise the EP's other work.

That's the thing. It was pointed out by several people that judging something you've never seen is ridiculous; that it's a show for kids that could get them into comics; and that Batman makes a shitload of money.

That's why there's another Batman show. And that's why there'll be another one when this one's done.

What Des said.

Just wait until you actually see the show to say whether you dislike it or not. Seeing a press release, and seeing the actual thing in motion are two different things.

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Just wait until you actually see the show to say whether you dislike it or not. Seeing a press release, and seeing the actual thing in motion are two different things.

Isn't that kinda what the internet is for?

I mean besides porn.

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Just wait until you actually see the show to say whether you dislike it or not. Seeing a press release, and seeing the actual thing in motion are two different things.

Isn't that kinda what the internet is for?

I mean besides porn.

I thought it was also good for gambling, and pretending you're a sixteen year old girl to get free flights to Vegas.

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Just wait until you actually see the show to say whether you dislike it or not. Seeing a press release, and seeing the actual thing in motion are two different things.

Isn't that kinda what the internet is for?

I mean besides porn.

I thought it was also good for gambling, and pretending you're a sixteen year old girl to get free flights to Vegas.

Wait, you mean you aren't a sixteen year old girl?

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Just wait until you actually see the show to say whether you dislike it or not. Seeing a press release, and seeing the actual thing in motion are two different things.

Isn't that kinda what the internet is for?

I mean besides porn.

I thought it was also good for gambling, and pretending you're a sixteen year old girl to get free flights to Vegas.

Wait, you mean you aren't a sixteen year old girl?

Depends......where you sending me on vacation :P

That's too bad. I was gong to offer you both candy...

My god man, you were going to offer candy? Don't you know anything!? That could have gone out of date by the time it reached us.

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But Twinkies last forever.

That's what they all say. But one day it's twinkies, and the next they change their numbers, and start ignoring your calls to co-sign that loan for that delorean you've been eyeing up.

I can't top that one. :bowdown:

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I'm quite surprised that in all the yammering about this show, NONE of you have reacted to three select words from the show description, those being "gun-toting", "Alfred" and "Pennyworth".

NO.

I'll still be giving the show a try once it airs, but that to me goes more against who and what Batman is than any ninja sidekick or Bat-porpoise.

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I'm quite surprised that in all the yammering about this show, NONE of you have reacted to three select words from the show description, those being "gun-toting", "Alfred" and "Pennyworth".

NO.

I'll still be giving the show a try once it airs, but that to me goes more against who and what Batman is than any ninja sidekick or Bat-porpoise.

Just because Bruce hates guns, doesn't mean Alfred shares the same belief.

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It's been established in the comics that Bruce allows Alfred to protect himself with a gun. A rifle, I believe. As for its use in the cartoon, it could be a dart / stun / laser gun. As of yet, we don't know. But considering the age the show's aimed at, I highly doubt it's a bullet-firing gun.

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It's been established in the comics that Bruce allows Alfred to protect himself with a gun. A rifle, I believe.

For emergencies and protection, maybe, but the show description makes it seem like Alfred will be out in the field wielding pistols and Bruce allowing him to do that just seems wrong to me, especially since he barely tolerates other vigilantes in Gotham, let alone ones with guns. Hopefully that won't be the case and they just dropped that into the description as a selling point.

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I'll be interested to see what they do with this. Murakami is making it, and he does have a good track record on superhero treatments. He does, however, have a very mixed record on the rogue's gallery. Teen Titans had numerous weak, sometimes bizarre (not always bizarre for the bad, mind you) villains, like Mumbo or Control Freak. The Batman, for as good as it was, did almost none of the Bat-villains any favors. Then again, this doesn't look like anything I've seen from Murakami before, so maybe he's finding his stride with that aspect of the series.

Also, Mike is right. It is by no means out of bounds for Alfred to have a gun. There was a gun rack at Wayne Manor in the 1989 movie, and he also had one in BTAS. This is no issue for me. I'm not sure if Alred being a former secret agent is part of DC canon, or just DCAU, but if it is canon, that would also reinforce that.

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