KnightWing Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I actually think the fact that Ollie's liberalism is the first (and usually only) thing people think of with his character is a problem. A political stance can't build a character; at best it can build a stereotype. If they start from the political element of his character and work backwards from that for this show, that can't be anything good. He'll be nothing more than a mouthpiece for token liberal talking points, as he often is in the comics. I think it'd be better to start with him as a person first, then develop the political angle only where and when it fits later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 If they make him an open liberal they automatically lose a large part of their audience, especially in an election year. They won't make that a major part of the character until later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 They'd be smart to give him positive liberal attitudes (defends the poor; stops evil corporations from harming the homeless, etc.) without explicitly naming it all "liberal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I want an openly communist hero in a TV show. As if they'd have the balls to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Yeah, I don't think that would go over so well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I don't really consider communism as implemented in Russia and China to be proper communism. I guess I should say I want a Marxist superhero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Like Superman in Red Son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Proper Marxism doesn't require a dictator, so Superman in Red Son is again not what I'm after. In fact the whole purpose of Marx's idea of Communism is to create a party that has direct contact and investment in the interests of all it's citizens and that they are the ones in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yeah, I don't think that would go over so well... There's a Second Greatest Communist Super Hero? Mao Man? The People's Power Pack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Powerletariat! Supermanifesto! Dark Engels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Rocket Red or August General in Armor are both DC heroes who are from communist nations. Of the two, Rocket Red isn't super powered, just has a power suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 New trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Thoughts: - They show the arrows hitting the tennis balls, so that's a plus in my book. - He's calling himself Arrow? Really? By that logic Black Widow and Black Canary should be Widow and Canary, Red Tornado would be Tornado, it's Lantern for Green Lantern, The Queen for The White Queen, and so on. By losing the adjective in the name, it makes it sound like the character put as little effort into his persona as possible. - The narration is still flat. - He killed a guy for knowing who he is. Huh. Not sure how I feel about that. - The mask with the arrow in it is a wonderful tease, I just hope they don't blow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Also: http://youtu.be/yxPoAWIK8TU http://youtu.be/TA2aUDYv6tA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Oliver Queen hasn't even graced our TV screens yet and he's already building up quite the rogues gallery in his first season. Already confirmed for the show are DC villains Deathstroke and China White, but this weekend it was confirmed by ksitetv.com that Deadshot will be coming to the all new CW TV show. No word on who will be playing the character, but he is set to appear in the show's third episode appropriately titled 'Lone Gunman.' Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 John Barrowman has been cast in a recurring role. Well played, Arrow. Well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 ...This show might not suck. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 I hope he plays Deathstroke. In his Captain Jack persona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Is it just me, or does this pass more than a passing resemblance to the Green Arrow we saw from Smallville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 There's virtually no possible way a "young Green Arrow" show wouldn't bear at least a passing resemblance to the character as he appeared on Smallville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 You mean that guy? I dunno. I'd say they're different in nearly every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I gotta agree. I mean, they're both wearing leather costumes that kinda look like fetish gear but Smallville Green Arrow is definitely a twink and wants Arrow Green Arrow to be his daddy tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'd say they're different in nearly every way. So the idea that people might compare 2012 Young Green Arrow to 2010 Young Green Arrow is totally implausible? I didn't say they were identical, I said a comparison was inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Well, yeah, they're technically the same comics character. I was talking about the specifics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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