dc20willsave Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 A little of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 One thing I know I'm not crazy about is having someone who's almost 30 playing Robin...again. I know the complaints against child endangerment and jokes about ephebophilia are knee-jerk when it comes to Batman and Robin, but seriously...and older Robin who's basically an adult always kills the enjoyment factor of the characters for me. It makes Robin lamer in some ways. Who exactly is a bigger fan of the Robin of Earth-2 over the classic teenage version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I just don't think a teenage Robin would fit in this conception of the DC Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Also, Jena Malone will look 16 forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I just don't think a teenage Robin would fit in this conception of the DC Universe.Which is one of the reasons I wasn't super-fond of the Nolan Batman movies' take on the universe, and I'm not super-fond of this one. This at least has superheroes being superheroes in it, which is great, but still. Why can't we have fun things? Marvel is running around with Rocket Raccoon and DC isn't even willing to use the primary version of Robin, their third most popular character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 By not making Robin Dick Grayson in this movie, I'm hopeful Nightwing will appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Why can't we have fun things? Probably Batman and Robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 By not making Robin Dick Grayson in this movie, I'm hopeful Nightwing will appear. Something tells me that if the guy in charge is Frank Miller's biggest fan you want Dick Grayson no where near these movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 #dickjoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 He's going to spike the reservoir with Viagra isn't he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 List of characters Frank Miller hates in order Anyone with a vagina Superman Dick Grayson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 http://www.comicscube.com/2010/05/clearing-up-misconception-about-frank.html "The most questionable thing I did was make Superman a government agent. If this had been a Superman story, I'd never have done that - and I know that, because I have a Superman story I want to tell someday. In this story, Batman was the hero, so the world was built around him." Take that for what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Frank Miller has a Superman story? I'd... actually be interested to see that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 List of characters Frank Miller hates in order Anyone with a vagina Superman Dick Grayson All of DC hates Dick Grayson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 I thought it was just the editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 All of DC hates Dick Grayson. Of course they hate him! They always give multiple ongoing series to characters they hate! Didn't you know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 The only people who give a crap about Dick are the editors at DC, he's never exactly been a best seller outside of his run as Batman. Anyone who wants to contradict me on that must first present their complete runs of nightwing trades and recap what's happening in Grayson right now. They should really just put him back in a team book, it's where he thrives. Recreate the Titans or Outsiders, something like that. Were there Titans in the New 52? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 They should really just put him back in a team book, it's where he thrives. Recreate the Titans or Outsiders, something like that. Were there Titans in the New 52?It was referenced early on that Dick, Starfire, and Garfield were all on a team together at some point (Cyborg might have been mentioned as well), and that Dick and Starfire were an item at one point, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 The only people who give a crap about Dick are the editors at DC, he's never exactly been a best seller outside of his run as Batman. Yeah, but he was amazing as Batman. He should still be Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 The only people who give a crap about Dick are the editors at DC, he's never exactly been a best seller outside of his run as Batman. Anyone who wants to contradict me on that must first present their complete runs of nightwing trades and recap what's happening in Grayson right now. They should really just put him back in a team book, it's where he thrives. Recreate the Titans or Outsiders, something like that. Were there Titans in the New 52? Umm... Are you implying that he's not popular now, or ever? In any case, I'd be inclined to intensely disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yeah, but he was amazing as Batman. He should still be Batman. Always be Batman. Are you implying that he's not popular now, or ever? In any case, I'd be inclined to intensely disagree. As a Titan, Dick was insanely popular. As a solo hero he's historically not worked nearly as well. Leading a team is the best possible use of Dick Grayson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 You can only do so much with Dick alone..... I'm sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ultimately Dick is a people person. Putting him on his own isn't all that interesting because that's not where he makes sense. Realistically, he's the kind of guy that would always want friends and allies around him anyway. Whether it's the bat-family or the Titans, he should be in a team book of some sort.I'm trying to remember; has there ever been a modern bat-family book, or has DC just always put the bat-family in all the other solo books? I guess Batman and Robin is the closest thing to one; a book like that but with the whole family would rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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