Missy Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Pick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 The Spider-Clone Saga was so fucking convoluted that it basically ruined Spider-Man comics for years. This is basically the entire thing in a nutshell: Peter is in the Scarlet Spider costume, and Ben is in prison because Peter is supposed to be serving time? And as it turns out, Peter is Ben and Ben is Peter? Oh wait! They changed their minds! Peter is Peter! Ben is the clone! Or is he... It started out with such promise, but the Marvel writers just totally fucked it up and made it so no one really knew what the fuck was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Clone saga turned me off Spidermnan comics, I still haven't gotten back into them. Whats Superman red/blue about? I'm not a big DC or superman fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Whats Superman red/blue about? I'm not a big DC or superman fan. That was when Superman turned into the electric being, and then split into two versions: red and blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Okay, so were the two versions different aspects of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Paradise Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Okay, so were the two versions different aspects of him? Yup....and the red one was all hot headed, while the blue one was cool, calm, and collected. Wow, how unpredictable. And yeah, Spider-clone saga was so lame, it turned me off of Marvel completely until about last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chops Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Spider-Man: Clone Saga will always be the worse story arc in comics in my opinion. Period. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to say, "Hey, I know what the readers will like, how about we tell them that the Spider-Man that they've known and loved for decades isn't really even Spider-Man." The worse part though, was the fact that someone in Marvel thought it was a good idea and okayed it. The clone saga was also poory written, had horrible story elements, and was almost to convoluted fo it's own good. Even without the head-ache inducing ending, it still would have been a horrible storyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRight88 Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 It was both the Spider-Clone Saga and the X-men AOA that made me give up comics for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 AOA... really?! A lot of people I know actually got into comics because of that. What about it turned you off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 It was both the Spider-Clone Saga and the X-men AOA that made me give up comics for a while. AOA saved the X titles in my opinion, and it was a good story. Onslaught on the other hand......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmckellop Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 You know what cracks me up? I think, minus the clone stuff, Ben Reily is the perfect Joey Q Spider-man. No convoluted backstory, no mj, new costume, new tricks, etc. I just think its funny. Although I think that superman red/blue was silly. from having the most iconic powers and costume to being a second rate Electro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 You know what cracks me up? I think, minus the clone stuff, Ben Reily is the perfect Joey Q Spider-man. No convoluted backstory, no mj, new costume, new tricks, etc. I just think its funny. Yup. Ben is so terribly underrated as a character, and his potential was limitless. Too bad the length and overall zaniness of the Clone Saga (and Wizard Magazine's constant panning of it) basically killed the character before fans had a chance to really get to know him. Welcome to the boards, by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRight88 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Age of Apocalypse made me realize that the X-books were just too depressing to warrant reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Age of Apocalypse made me realize that the X-books were just too depressing to warrant reading. You think that's depressing? The first issue I ever read was the death of Illyana to the legacy virus. Seriously, she was like 10. I thought it was a rule that you can't kill kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 You think that's depressing? The first issue I ever read was the death of Illyana to the legacy virus. Same here! The very first X-book I ever read was Uncanny X-Men #303, the death of Illyana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 You think that's depressing? The first issue I ever read was the death of Illyana to the legacy virus. Same here! The very first X-book I ever read was Uncanny X-Men #303, the death of Illyana. That's spooky. I was hooked, and not long after that, Wizard came out with an all X-Men special that listed every character, and all the major events from the book. I studied that until I knew everything about the X-Men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmckellop Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Thanks! Big fan of the show, by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted July 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 You think that's depressing? The first issue I ever read was the death of Illyana to the legacy virus. Same here! The very first X-book I ever read was Uncanny X-Men #303, the death of Illyana. In retrospect, I was wrong. The very first X-related book I ever purchased was Excalibur #3 (and then 4). My first issue of Uncanny X-Men, however, remains the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Wait, wasn't Ben Reilly the real Peter Parker? And the Clone Peter Parker was married to MJ and they had a kid?? Is that wrong I forget. I forget how they ended it too, does anyone remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 That is what Marvel revealed, but they later reversed it due to the negative fan reaction. Ben died saving Peter. When Ben turned to ash, Peter knew Ben was indeed the clone. Making himself the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 For the record...Azrael Batman blew a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I find it funny that the Azrale Batman is mentioned and no mention of the Return of the Supermen. Personally, the whole Knightfall thing was great. The Death of Superman was okay for the most part but failed in many respects. Azrael transferred himself into the "mantle of the bat" as he put it and dispensed his own brand of justice. It allowed for the great character development of Tim Drake to shine through. Remember that Tim was still relatively new and had barely distinguished himself. He was just a kid who wanted to be Robin. His concern over Azrael really told us that he wanted to live up to the ideals of the original Batman and that he was truly different than Jboth Jason Todd and Dick Grayson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 That's a shame I liked the Scarlet Spider uniform. So then Peter never loved Gwen Stacy? Or did the Clone love her......... I'm confused and I haven't read the damn thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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