Dread Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This sucks. I wanted to see what Eli Roth could do on network TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 This sucks. I wanted to see what Eli Roth could do on network TV. Wasn't Kevin Smith supposed to do one too? That would have been fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I really liked last night's episode. All of the stories are finally coming together. It's too bad the season will get cut short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Agreed! Yea that ep was great. I;m pretty sure that Elle is Kensei's daughter. Heh I called the heroes virus being the epidemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 'Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.'' But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique: THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.'' THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says. THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.) HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.'' YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.'' Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.'' http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 While I'm glad to hear that the creator is willing to learn from his mistakes, listening to the fans can also be detrimental to an ongoing story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I thought that Hiro and the Princess worked well and had an important factor to the overall story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 It could have been much, much shorter! The whole bit with Ando finding the tiny scrolls added nothing to Hiro's story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 It could have been much, much shorter! The whole bit with Ando finding the tiny scrolls added nothing to Hiro's story. Yea but I think that had more to do with keeping Ando on screen so he wasn't forgotten. Man If Adam really wants to get at Hiro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 It could have been much, much shorter! The whole bit with Ando finding the tiny scrolls added nothing to Hiro's story. Yea but I think that had more to do with keeping Ando on screen so he wasn't forgotten. Man If Adam really wants to get at Hiro... Shut yo' mouth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 It could have been much, much shorter! The whole bit with Ando finding the tiny scrolls added nothing to Hiro's story. Yea but I think that had more to do with keeping Ando on screen so he wasn't forgotten. Man If Adam really wants to get at Hiro... Shut yo' mouth! I'm just saying besides Killing Hiro's dad that would hurt him the most... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 A major male character is going to die soon, and stay dead. Click here for a hint from episode 10 from this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 A major male character is going to die soon, and stay dead. Click here for a hint from episode 10 from this season. Curse you Jack, I'm going to be tempted to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 A major male character is going to die soon, and stay dead. Click here for a hint from episode 10 from this season. Curse you Jack, I'm going to be tempted to look. I could have just said it since this is the spoilers thread, but I figured I would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drqshadow Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, judging from one of the people I see in the background, it isn't the male character I was hoping for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, judging from one of the people I see in the background, it isn't the male character I was hoping for... Don't talk about Mr. Muggles like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Coming soon on Heroes- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 A major male character is going to die soon, and stay dead. Click here for a hint from episode 10 from this season. Goddammit! There goes one of the only reasons to watch this show... Don't talk about Mr. Muggles like that. Bwahahahahahaha!!! Coming soon on Heroes- You, sir, just made the post of the year <clap,clap,clap/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mull Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Well, judging from one of the people I see in the background, it isn't the male character I was hoping for... Here's hoping that scene is from Peter's future which may not actually happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 All said, based on the ad I saw last night, this coming episode looks to be the best yet. IT fills in the three months apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Something about that image doesn't look right to me. I'll believe it when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 All said, based on the ad I saw last night, this coming episode looks to be the best yet. IT fills in the three months apparently. Yeah, and i'm looking forward to them explaining what happened to Nathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mull Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Was wondering what powers Hiro's Dad and Nathans Mom have as I dont think we have been fully told yet, perhaps they could have slightly altered powers to that of their offspring similar to Parkman and his father maybe? The reason I ask is because if that be true with Hiro's father it would have been a nice touch to have him appear with Adam somehow in the past, maybe im jumping the gun in thinking that there could be a chance that Hiro's father is a follower of Adam and was preaching him to Hiro to eventually have him follow in the future. Or Hiro's Dad is against Adam and didnt know who he was before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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