Missy Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's selfish of her to seek a cure that will save countless lives? From this point forward, it wouldn't surprise me if they strap their wrists together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 It's selfish of her to seek a cure that will save countless lives? From this point forward, it wouldn't surprise me if they strap their wrists together. A cure that may or may not exist? You know how she could save countless lives? By not putting them at risk to begin with. How many people were on that truck? Ten? How many 'accidental' deaths are acceptable? She drew the short straw at powers, that sucks, but when will enough be enough? At what point should she be accountable for her actions? If there is a chance that you could accidently kill people would you head to a densely populated city where there might be a cure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 She has two choices when it comes to isolation: 01. Suicide, which would be a major sin considering she's most likely Catholic. 02. Or she could find a cave to live in for the rest of her life, which would be short considering I doubt she has wilderness survival skills. So that would be a passive suicide (RE: sin). And even if she hides, there's a good chance someone will find her. Is she then responsible for their deaths, too? Getting back to her religion, think of her as Rahne Sinclair / Wolfsbane: a Catholic mutant who sees her powers as a slight against God. My guess is that we'll see this explored with Maya. Killing herself would be a sin, but living with her powers is also a sin. So the only thing she can do is seek out a doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted September 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 You really can't expect her to stay away from everyone for the rest of her life. As long as she's with her brother, she's fine. It's not her fault those guys tried to rape her and kicked her brother off the truck. I don't see how you can blame her for that. All those deaths are the fault of the driver and his partner, and nobody else's. From now on she is going to have to be a lot more careful, but she still wants to get to the cure. Whether it exists or not doesn't matter. What did you guys make of the part with Nathan seeing the burned face in the mirror? It's obviously Peter, and it looks like he's even wearing the necklace mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 You really can't expect her to stay away from everyone for the rest of her life. As long as she's with her brother, she's fine. It's not her fault those guys tried to rape her and kicked her brother off the truck. I don't see how you can blame her for that. All those deaths are the fault of the driver and his partner, and nobody else's. From now on she is going to have to be a lot more careful, but she still wants to get to the cure. Whether it exists or not doesn't matter. What did you guys make of the part with Nathan seeing the burned face in the mirror? It's obviously Peter, and it looks like he's even wearing the necklace mentioned earlier. It's not the drivers fault, I mean he is a scumbag, but he had no idea that leaving her brother behind would cause all the deaths. They didn't even say anything to him. They both knew what was going to happen but they didn't warn them. Would they have listen to her? No probably not, but even on the romote chance that they would is better than them staying quiet. Honestly this is one situation that suicide would be for the greater good. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. What happens if she's seperated from her brother again? Would you still defend her position?The worst part is that are going to get a cure that Suresh might have. Their not sure if he has it. To risk the lives of innocent people on an a belief is selfish. How many lives are worth it? This is going to sound bad but is her life more important then ten lives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 You don't know that killing her will stop her power, it could make it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drqshadow Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 What did you guys make of the part with Nathan seeing the burned face in the mirror? It's obviously Peter, and it looks like he's even wearing the necklace mentioned earlier. He's struggling with crazy amounts of grief after killing his brother (he doesn't know Peter's still alive). I just took it as an extension of that. I thought this episode was all right. Hiro's story is still far and away the most interesting to me, and I'm getting really bored with Claire. My big hang-up is that they already have so many strong characters that they don't need to be introducing more. They had a tough time keeping tabs on everybody last season, this year's going to feel like a fifteen-ring circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kscriv Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Quick thing I realised, the episode is "Four months later" yet Claire is starting school (September) didn't the final battle with Sylar happen n October or ovember? Just a minor gripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 The battle was in early November 2006. This episode is four months after that, so they're in late February / early March 2007 -- the start of the second semester. If you recall, Claire told her dad that she missed out on all the good classes because they were chosen by everyone else at the end of the previous semester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 What did you guys make of the part with Nathan seeing the burned face in the mirror? It's obviously Peter, and it looks like he's even wearing the necklace mentioned earlier. He's struggling with crazy amounts of grief after killing his brother (he doesn't know Peter's still alive). I just took it as an extension of that. I thought this episode was all right. Hiro's story is still far and away the most interesting to me, and I'm getting really bored with Claire. My big hang-up is that they already have so many strong characters that they don't need to be introducing more. They had a tough time keeping tabs on everybody last season, this year's going to feel like a fifteen-ring circus. Eh probably not. Iassic and Ted had alot of screen time and both are gone which opens up room for more. I'm really curious to know what happened with the election. Nathan won thanks to Micah rigging the election. Did he just give it up, or is does the general population think he's dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted September 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I get the feeling there is going to be a flashback episode that fills in the gaps between seasons. I had the same questions about Nathan and the election. Not to mention how Matt ended up as the girl's guardian. He seems like an odd person to give a kid to seeing as how he was getting divorced, and was shot and out of a job at the time. My brother, who is also a fan of the show told me that Takezo Kensei is immortal, and is the big villain of this season. It makes sense when you think about it. He was described as an "ageless American with an European feel" by NBC. I forgot to ask him where he heard that though. Where I think that storyline is going is I believe Hiro will take up the name Takezo Kensei and do all the great things attributed to him, thus protecting the legend, and keeping history intact at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I was hoping it was going to be George Takei. There's just something about the dialogue in that episode that was off-putting. I was excited by it but the dialogue just seemed so pedestrian and stilted for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Irish Accents are terrible and its not even a Cork Accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Irish accents are terrible, but Peter's story is the best thing on the show not named Hiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The Irish accents are terrible, but Peter's story is the best thing on the show not named Hiro. In case anyone cares one of the Irish guys is Dominic Keating from Enterprise(He plays Malcolm the tactical officer) He hasn't had a line yet. Also I am convinced that only one twin has a power. I think she has the power to cause the disease, and she just thinks that her brother can stop it(If his power was just to cancel out her power he wouldn't have to hold her hands and sing to her. As soon as he was close enough it should have cancelled it out. It seems like he just calms her down enough to where she can control it. If you notice at one point his eyes turn black which is one of the symptoms of the disease) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 No THAT was an episode. I think Peter was right on par with Hiro there. I loved the disarming thing. I was actually a little disappointed with Kenzei's return to battle and then he got filled with arrows and I was all like "GO HIRO!" but then, of course, he has healing powers too. I thought that was dumb. I don't like that guy in the slightest. But Hiro's battle and Petrelli's bar ass-kickery made that one of my fave episodes to date. Still not knocking my socks off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I gasped when the Haitian first appeared, and then laughed with glee when he found his way to the copy shop! And I don't think he cancels Maya's power; he seems to absorb it, hence his eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted October 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I can't believe I was right about Hiro doing that stuff in Takezo's name. I'm never right about this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I gasped when the Haitian first appeared, and then laughed with glee when he found his way to the copy shop! And I don't think he cancels Maya's power; he seems to absorb it, hence his eyes. Yeah Bennett has a nice little group. The Haitian, Parkman, Mohinder and the little girl he's setup pretty well. I'm interested to see where it goes from there. Yea there's something funky with the twins, it's definitely not cut and dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Something just dawned on me: why was Claire so eager to see if she could regrow appendages? I mean, didn't she regenerate her fingers / hand in the very first episode of Heroes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Something just dawned on me: why was Claire so eager to see if she could regrow appendages? I mean, didn't she regenerate her fingers / hand in the very first episode of Heroes? No they were still there just mangled. She's got a crazy threshold for pain though. Just because you can heal dosen't mean you should stick your hand in boiling water if you don't have to. Plus why risk cutting off a toe if your not sure it will grow back? Just seems dumb... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hmm. I could have sworn at least one finger was missing. Either way, you're right: regeneration powers do not make one immune to pain. Wolverine feels every cut and bullet wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holacik Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hmm. I could have sworn at least one finger was missing. Either way, you're right: regeneration powers do not make one immune to pain. Wolverine feels every cut and bullet wound. Exactly, if I had her powers I would be more prone to put myself at risk for getting hurt, but I sure as hell wouldn't be cutting myself for the hell of it. I'm not a big fan of pain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Yeah, already Claire is bugging the shit out of me this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Heroes is getting into the trend of giving everyone powers. It kind of makes everyone with powers less special if everyone has them. Whenever they introduce a new character, we know they are going to have a power. I'd rather have more Andos on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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