Bento Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 So, I had this thought a few months ago and I kinda just chalked it up to being far fetched. Anyways, I recently heard something interesting, which my thought kinda supports. Or I could be completely wrong. Well, here it is. Could it be that the answer to 52 has been right in front of our faces this whole time? Right on the cover of every issue? The interesting though I heard was. "How many letters are there in EARTH?" 5... so 52 = EARTH2? So could this be an alternate universe, another Earth? Okay, so that isn't really prevalent on the covers right? So, here is my though, which supports the EARTH2 idea. The 5 and the 2 on every cover are almost exact mirror images of each other. The differences are very slight. Could the creators be throwing us a very subtle clue? Anyway, just though I'd bullshit a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Interesting theory! The IC hardcover (which has dialog not contained within the IC miniseries) supports the idea that Earth-Two is still around, so you very well may have discovered the secret behind 52. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRetreater Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 This rumor has been cycling around quite a bit at my comic shop, but only for the past month, month-and-a-half. I could completely buy into it but I really just don't want to. In one theory, the story takes place on E2. I feel like it is kind of a cop-out. creating this great story forever changing characters we know and love... only for them to not actually be the characters we know and love. Another theory, that it is mainly the common solution or answer for all/most the characters isn't quite as bad but DC's seperate earths and all always just leave a bad taste in my mouth. I really just want it to be something new and different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 My guess is that the characters seen in 52 were shifted to Earth-Two at the conclusion of IC, that's why we haven't seen them in any of the OYL titles. If that's the case, however, how come Superman and all of the remaining heroes aren't out looking for Steel, Question and all those guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bento Posted December 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I agree on the cop-out thing, but I'm enjoying the story and formate in the moment. That's not to say that when it's all over I'm not going to curse the ground they walk on, but for now it's a TiVo thumb up =) (I got a great deal from bestbuy on a TiVo hence the thumb thingy). As for the OYL, that is pretty odd that they aren't scrambling to solve missing member issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Ah, unless they've forgotten about them thanks to the new continuity on New Earth. Maybe Steel, Question, Animal Man, Lobo and all of them never existed on New Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRetreater Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Alot of heroes disappeared for a while after IC. I can accept that they aren't being looked for because of the Arrow and Batfamily precedent. Ah, unless they've forgotten about them thanks to the new continuity on New Earth. Maybe Steel, Question, Animal Man, Lobo and all of them never existed on New Earth. I would hate for this to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think 52 is a number of people taken by Rip Hunter/Waverider/New Booster Gold(?) at the end of 52 to face a much larger threat on Earth 2. I think Superboy Prime may be loose on Earth 2 by himself and ripping all sorts of shit up. Candidates?: -Montoya the New Question (You heard me) -Steel -Animal Man -Adam Strange -Starfire -Supernova -Ralph/Dr. Fate -Doc Magnus -Jason Todd -Black Marvel Family Basically, the main players of 52 who aren't in existence OYL and those who are out of place in the timestream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Yeah, the rumor from the start has been that Renee Montoya would become the new Question by the end of 52, which I'm opposed to. She, like Crispus Allen, doesn't need to be a superhero. DC doesn't seem to realize that strong non-powered humans can be great assets to their universe. Hopefully they'll swerve us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Yeah, the rumor from the start has been that Renee Montoya would become the new Question by the end of 52, which I'm opposed to. She, like Crispus Allen, doesn't need to be a superhero. DC doesn't seem to realize that strong non-powered humans can be great assets to their universe. Hopefully they'll swerve us. The next logical step I would take as a writer would be to make The Question an entire army. Several faceless investigators all working towards one goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think 52 is a number of people taken by Rip Hunter/Waverider/New Booster Gold(?) at the end of 52 to face a much larger threat on Earth 2. I think Superboy Prime may be loose on Earth 2 by himself and ripping all sorts of shit up. Candidates?: -Montoya the New Question (You heard me) -Steel -Animal Man -Adam Strange -Starfire -Supernova -Ralph/Dr. Fate -Doc Magnus -Jason Todd -Black Marvel Family Basically, the main players of 52 who aren't in existence OYL and those who are out of place in the timestream Jason Todd, was in Nightwings book OYL, and Black Marvel family member Osiris was in Teen Titans (on the list of short lived members during OYL). Plus Jasons slated to return in Teen Titans according to Deathstroke. On top of that appearances by Robin, Batman and co pretty much confirm that this is the norml DCU. On earth 2 Bats would be dead. Plus Nightwing meeting up with Batwoman? It can't be a different earth. 52 has something to do with Nightwing being meant to die in the Crisis doesn't it? I think it might also have something to do with the return of Kal-l later this year in JSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 It is possible that 52 ends with the splitting of worlds, which would explain why Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne and others seen OYL have been in 52. It would also explain why the New Earth heroes aren't looking for the Earth-Two heroes: they know of the split, and know the other heroes are now populating that world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think 52 is a number of people taken by Rip Hunter/Waverider/New Booster Gold(?) at the end of 52 to face a much larger threat on Earth 2. I think Superboy Prime may be loose on Earth 2 by himself and ripping all sorts of shit up. Candidates?: -Montoya the New Question (You heard me) -Steel -Animal Man -Adam Strange -Starfire -Supernova -Ralph/Dr. Fate -Doc Magnus -Jason Todd -Black Marvel Family Basically, the main players of 52 who aren't in existence OYL and those who are out of place in the timestream Jason Todd, was in Nightwings book OYL, and Black Marvel family member Osiris was in Teen Titans (on the list of short lived members during OYL). Plus Jasons slated to return in Teen Titans according to Deathstroke. On top of that appearances by Robin, Batman and co pretty much confirm that this is the norml DCU. On earth 2 Bats would be dead. Plus Nightwing meeting up with Batwoman? It can't be a different earth. 52 has something to do with Nightwing being meant to die in the Crisis doesn't it? I think it might also have something to do with the return of Kal-l later this year in JSA. Well said...I don't read Nightwing and I'm behind on TT but Batman in 52 did say that Batman was dead. It's a stretch but maybe we're seeing some different versions of these characters OYL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 It is possible that 52 ends with the splitting of worlds, which would explain why Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne and others seen OYL have been in 52. It would also explain why the New Earth heroes aren't looking for the Earth-Two heroes: they know of the split, and know the other heroes are now populating that world. I find it troubling that no one is saying "Hey what about that Earth 2 thing? Fucked up, huh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 See, this is why I refrain from reading many DC titles: their continuity is to way too messed up. Every time they try to clean it up, a larger mess is created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Maybe at the end of 52 Steel, the space crew, Montoya and Black Adam all move in to an apartment building with Ambush Bug and Ralph Dibny with the floating Helm of Fate as the wacky neighbours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRetreater Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 The next logical step I would take as a writer would be to make The Question an entire army. Several faceless investigators all working towards one goal. Like the Newsboy Army. I'd enjoy a question army (read: a revamp of gcpd) Jason Todd, was in Nightwings book OYL, and Black Marvel family member Osiris was in Teen Titans (on the list of short lived members during OYL). Plus Jasons slated to return in Teen Titans according to Deathstroke. On top of that appearances by Robin, Batman and co pretty much confirm that this is the norml DCU. On earth 2 Bats would be dead. Plus Nightwing meeting up with Batwoman? It can't be a different earth. 52 has something to do with Nightwing being meant to die in the Crisis doesn't it? I think it might also have something to do with the return of Kal-l later this year in JSA. One of the current Nightwing plot-threads is that he should have died. The Stranger I believe is the one leading the reader to that conclusion. I don't know how much that will have to do with 52 since it is really only being brought up well after the when 52 would end in continuity. I'm probably an Ish or two behind on my Nightwing since I haven't picked up my box in a while. See, this is why I refrain from reading many DC titles: their continuity is to way too messed up. Every time they try to clean it up, a larger mess is created. agreed, which is why I kind of fear a new E2. I tend to just ignore all this stuff when I read DC and pretend it is streamlined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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