My Robocop Vs Terminator Idea

[annericelover]

This is an outline I started back in 1994(I was 11). I'm not a great writer, so I never really expanded upon it until recently. It doesn't take any elements from the comic book series of the same name and it cuts off Robocop 3 and Terminator 3 as canon.

Now I am no screenwriter, so I don't know anything about writing one. After Terminator II came out and the disastorous Robocop III(Robocop II was terrible too, but wasn't as bad as the third). I had developed a small sypnosis for a crossover movie(this coincided with a Freddy Vs Jason idea I fleshed out after Jason Goes to Hell came out). Obviously it ignores the events in Robocop III and T3 never happened yet(this is still in the idea).

Well here goes:

We open with a mock type commercial, sponsering some bogus video game of sorts, which is being brought to you by OCP and the City of Detroit. We find Robocop, formerly known as Alex Murphy, a cop killed in the line of duty. He's busy driving around, scanning the streets(with his helmet visor)looking for any signs of trouble. He begins to notice a man who looks like he's in his mid-20's walking around suspisciously. He quickly tries to ID the young man and discovers that he has no known ID(off the grid). He begins to circle around, when the young man notices him and begins to run off. Robocop than heads in pursuit after him and winds up cornering him in a dead end alle way.

He grabs onto the young man, who appears to spit in his face(or in this case helmet)and with an angry distasteful look on his face he says to Robocop "You''l never defeat the human race, you'll never break our spirits. " Not knowing why, the young man seems to have so much rage for him, he demands to know his name. The young man surprised at this, gives off a bewildered looks and stutters "John, John Connor, " and continues to say "You're not one of them are you?"

Murphy looks at him and drags him to the police vehicle and throws inside. At the police station, he is held in custody, until he can clarify what is going on.

Meanwhile, in the same alley way, that Murphy apprehended John, an electrical type currents appears and seems to disolve everything within its range. Suddenly a muscular naked man appears, it seems without emotion, he heads towards the nearest club, to gather clothing. He enters into the local XXX/Club/Bar and runs into a group of guys who refuse to give up there clothes. He kills them one by one, while the rest of the people in the club scammer around. While this is happening John has agreed to tell his story, but only to Murphy. When he is finished with story, there a skeptism from the guys behind the two-way mirror, but Murphy believes John, since his heart appears to be beating at the same rate(meaning he's telling the truth).

Suddenly, a call over the police radios announces that violent fight has broken out at the same bar the Terminator is at and that they need an ambulance, coroner and the police right away. John quickly tells them, that they need to be prepared, they can't fight it alone(from the description over the radio about the killer, John quickly realizes what it is). Several cops have already left and shortly after appear outside the bar. They begin to slowly go toward the front door when the bar owner is flown out through the window. Shots are than fired, with The Terminator now fully dressed, demanding to know where John Connor is, than smashing and ripping the heads off each cops that opposes him.

John hears the dispatcher over the radio as he is telling the station to stay away, he than dies while over the radio, with static appearing shortly after.

John talks to Murphy about going there and confronting the machine, Murphy doesn't agree, but John is insistant, with a strong military commanding sound he demands that Murphy let him go and confront the machines. Murphy knocks John out to protect him and heads off to stop the Terminator. He arrives at the bar, with The Terminator killing off the last of the cops. He recognizes NMurphy somehow and demands to know where John is, Murphy refuses, saying "Dead or Alive, You're Coming With Me." A small fight begins, meanwhile John awakes and realizes what has happened and steals a police vehicle. The battle is still going on and Murphy has been hurt considerably. John arrives and he quickly enters the vehicle.

John proclaims that they need to get away, that the Terminator won't hurt anyone who isn't in his way, because it isn't his mission. He ak Murphy if he knows anyone they go to, so he can repair himself. He says yes and proceeds to show John the home of his old partner Lois(or is it Lewis, last name)(since part 3 didn't happened, she is still alive).

There is more stuff, but here is the rest of the rundowns:

You get the essential charactersm like Robocop, Terminator(newer model than Arnold), Lois, Murphy's old partner and possible love interest for John.

I also figured that being that this is a little ahead in the future, we also have a teenage Kyle Reese, maybe a rookie at the police station, or a drifter(not knowing his parents), also we have new flashback scenes with Sarah Connor on the last few moths that she was still alive.

Another element I wanted to put out there was this film could be the beginning of the resistance. Danny Dyson is introduced as a young adult carrying on his father's work(he doesn't know what happened in T2) and has taken Cyberdyne systems and teamed it up with OCP(who is well aware of this new threat as soon as it began, they want Murphy dead).

Like I said earlier I am no good at screenwriting, which is why this outline is not structured well. But if you get the basic premise, please let me know what you think.

[SuaveStar]

This is a bit of bump, but i thought I'd read this, what with me playing the game on the mega drive, that's not a shill i really am playing it.

First the opening was really good as the first film opened like that with a news report instead of the commercials you mentioned, I liked that. John Connor should not have been Murphy's partner, why not have Connor killed? it would stick with the whole "No fate, but what we make" so John dieing does not alter history, as it may have not been the final plan. God i hated T3, but that's besides the point.

instead of John walking about suspiciously why not have him steal supplies for something, like food, that would be more of a reason for Murphy to arrest him for shoplifting. The interrogation sounds like the ones from the first two movies so i would recommend having the doctor at the other side of the two way mirror, keeping it in that continuity. Showing first the father then the mother and now the son telling of the hell that is coming, and him even though he saw it in T2 is denying this story. Also have another cop in the room asking the questions, not Murphy, just have Murphy in the room and checking Johns heart rate and playing footage of his own son and how much John looks like him, thus giving Murphy a reason to help this kid. The murder by the terminator sounds good and Johns realisation that it has come for him and telling Murphy they must do this i like the way you are foreshadowing the future, with the military leader way he tells Murphy, a bit like T2 when John says "I order you not to go...."Perhaps Murphy says I'm sorry before he knocks John out, perhaps by giving him a sedative is that what you meant?

The scene with the terminator and Murphy is good but an idea i have is why doesn't the terminator recognise Murphy and Murphy says "dead or alive you..." and the terminator shoots him down in one shot.? that way Murphy's killer line is not said and shows how little the terminator gives a shit. The terminator then asking for John Connor is nice and should stay perhaps the terminator could beat the crap out of him like ed-209 did in the original? when Murphy is left with no power left, the terminator goes to leave and hears through Murphy's headset, or radio depending where the fight takes place, that John has woke up and escaped from the prison, again as a callback he can do it like Sarah does in T2 with pretending to be asleep, the guard could be a young Kyle Reese? Robocop slowly crawls to hiss car and the terminator decides to destroy him but a car comes in and runs over the terminator, it's John, he opens the door ala Lewis in the first robocop movie and says "come with me if you want to live"

I don't like taking him to Lewis's place, maybe they stop at Lewis's place and pick her up, but why would she have the technology??

Don't make her a love interest, it's too much, i feel Lewis is her own woman, perhaps have a bit of flirting but that's it. Do you know how John and Murphy beat the terminator? Also the terminator should be very malicious, how about he kills Murphy's former wife or son. Also John shouldn't know the terminator wouldn't kill what isn't in it's way as in a way everyone is in it's way.

"Another element I wanted to put out there was this film could be the beginning of the resistance. Danny Dyson is introduced as a young adult carrying on his father's work(he doesn't know what happened in T2) and has taken Cyberdyne systems and teamed it up with OCP(who is well aware of this new threat as soon as it began, they want Murphy dead). "

I like this, he could want to keep up his fathers legacy and could be one of the masterminds of Sky-net. Also the old man should be dead, the problem with two was they made him a dick, in the robocop series, perhaps the young black executive, I'm not being racist i don't remember his name, could be in charge and OCP is on its last legs and needs this to work and he has taken it on as a personal project?

So in a way i like it, it needs some tweaking here and their, but its good. These are just my thoughts, i hope you developed the idea as it sounds really interesting, hope some of what I'm saying in this bump helps.

[annericelover]

This is a bit of bump, but i thought I'd read this, what with me playing the game on the mega drive, that's not a shill i really am playing it.

First the opening was really good as the first film opened like that with a news report instead of the commercials you mentioned, I liked that. John Connor should not have been Murphy's partner, why not have Connor killed? it would stick with the whole "No fate, but what we make" so John dieing does not alter history, as it may have not been the final plan. God i hated T3, but that's besides the point.

instead of John walking about suspiciously why not have him steal supplies for something, like food, that would be more of a reason for Murphy to arrest him for shoplifting. The interrogation sounds like the ones from the first two movies so i would recommend having the doctor at the other side of the two way mirror, keeping it in that continuity. Showing first the father then the mother and now the son telling of the hell that is coming, and him even though he saw it in T2 is denying this story. Also have another cop in the room asking the questions, not Murphy, just have Murphy in the room and checking Johns heart rate and playing footage of his own son and how much John looks like him, thus giving Murphy a reason to help this kid. The murder by the terminator sounds good and Johns realisation that it has come for him and telling Murphy they must do this i like the way you are foreshadowing the future, with the military leader way he tells Murphy, a bit like T2 when John says "I order you not to go...."Perhaps Murphy says I'm sorry before he knocks John out, perhaps by giving him a sedative is that what you meant?

The scene with the terminator and Murphy is good but an idea i have is why doesn't the terminator recognise Murphy and Murphy says "dead or alive you..." and the terminator shoots him down in one shot.? that way Murphy's killer line is not said and shows how little the terminator gives a shit. The terminator then asking for John Connor is nice and should stay perhaps the terminator could beat the crap out of him like ed-209 did in the original? when Murphy is left with no power left, the terminator goes to leave and hears through Murphy's headset, or radio depending where the fight takes place, that John has woke up and escaped from the prison, again as a callback he can do it like Sarah does in T2 with pretending to be asleep, the guard could be a young Kyle Reese? Robocop slowly crawls to hiss car and the terminator decides to destroy him but a car comes in and runs over the terminator, it's John, he opens the door ala Lewis in the first robocop movie and says "come with me if you want to live"

I don't like taking him to Lewis's place, maybe they stop at Lewis's place and pick her up, but why would she have the technology??

Don't make her a love interest, it's too much, i feel Lewis is her own woman, perhaps have a bit of flirting but that's it. Do you know how John and Murphy beat the terminator? Also the terminator should be very malicious, how about he kills Murphy's former wife or son. Also John shouldn't know the terminator wouldn't kill what isn't in it's way as in a way everyone is in it's way.

"Another element I wanted to put out there was this film could be the beginning of the resistance. Danny Dyson is introduced as a young adult carrying on his father's work(he doesn't know what happened in T2) and has taken Cyberdyne systems and teamed it up with OCP(who is well aware of this new threat as soon as it began, they want Murphy dead). "

I like this, he could want to keep up his fathers legacy and could be one of the masterminds of Sky-net. Also the old man should be dead, the problem with two was they made him a dick, in the robocop series, perhaps the young black executive, I'm not being racist i don't remember his name, could be in charge and OCP is on its last legs and needs this to work and he has taken it on as a personal project?

So in a way i like it, it needs some tweaking here and their, but its good. These are just my thoughts, i hope you developed the idea as it sounds really interesting, hope some of what I'm saying in this bump helps.

I'm not a writer, at least not in the structure type way, so this is really just a blueprint of an idea. I thought about including Dr. Silberman in the script, bu I just figured since he witnessed what happened in the 2nd one I'd leave him to just be given a nod too. I didn't like his cameo in part 3, as he was there just for continuity laughs.

The idea of Murphy stopping John because he's shoplifting is a decent idea, but that's what he was doing in T3(and while the film was okay, it was a sad continuation).

The black guy you're talking about is the one who was a good guy of sorts in 1 and 2 and than seemed like a bad guy in the 3rd one right? The guy with the glasses?

I was also thinking of having screenshots from Robocops 1 and 2 and Terminator 1 and 2 going as the opening credits are rolling. Having a theme that combines both the Terminator and Robocop themes together.

Having Robocop being shot or knocked down by The Terminator is a great idea, this way when he says it at the end its means more because he didn't get to say it earlier.

I was also thinking about having a twist in which OCP reveals that Robocop is actually the first model Terminator, with ED-209 being the 2nd model.

The Terminator not recognizing Robocop is because he wasn't given that information in its programming.

The part with Murphy saying "I'm Sorry" and than knocking John out is a bit cliched. I would like it to be sudden, perhaps Murphy could apologize later, but it would be a shock to not only John, but to the audience.

Thanks for ideas, I'm also writing a draft for 2 new Crow films and could use a co-writer.

[SuaveStar]

This is a bit of bump, but i thought I'd read this, what with me playing the game on the mega drive, that's not a shill i really am playing it.

First the opening was really good as the first film opened like that with a news report instead of the commercials you mentioned, I liked that. John Connor should not have been Murphy's partner, why not have Connor killed? it would stick with the whole "No fate, but what we make" so John dieing does not alter history, as it may have not been the final plan. God i hated T3, but that's besides the point.

instead of John walking about suspiciously why not have him steal supplies for something, like food, that would be more of a reason for Murphy to arrest him for shoplifting. The interrogation sounds like the ones from the first two movies so i would recommend having the doctor at the other side of the two way mirror, keeping it in that continuity. Showing first the father then the mother and now the son telling of the hell that is coming, and him even though he saw it in T2 is denying this story. Also have another cop in the room asking the questions, not Murphy, just have Murphy in the room and checking Johns heart rate and playing footage of his own son and how much John looks like him, thus giving Murphy a reason to help this kid. The murder by the terminator sounds good and Johns realisation that it has come for him and telling Murphy they must do this i like the way you are foreshadowing the future, with the military leader way he tells Murphy, a bit like T2 when John says "I order you not to go...."Perhaps Murphy says I'm sorry before he knocks John out, perhaps by giving him a sedative is that what you meant?

The scene with the terminator and Murphy is good but an idea i have is why doesn't the terminator recognise Murphy and Murphy says "dead or alive you..." and the terminator shoots him down in one shot.? that way Murphy's killer line is not said and shows how little the terminator gives a shit. The terminator then asking for John Connor is nice and should stay perhaps the terminator could beat the crap out of him like ed-209 did in the original? when Murphy is left with no power left, the terminator goes to leave and hears through Murphy's headset, or radio depending where the fight takes place, that John has woke up and escaped from the prison, again as a callback he can do it like Sarah does in T2 with pretending to be asleep, the guard could be a young Kyle Reese? Robocop slowly crawls to hiss car and the terminator decides to destroy him but a car comes in and runs over the terminator, it's John, he opens the door ala Lewis in the first robocop movie and says "come with me if you want to live"

I don't like taking him to Lewis's place, maybe they stop at Lewis's place and pick her up, but why would she have the technology??

Don't make her a love interest, it's too much, i feel Lewis is her own woman, perhaps have a bit of flirting but that's it. Do you know how John and Murphy beat the terminator? Also the terminator should be very malicious, how about he kills Murphy's former wife or son. Also John shouldn't know the terminator wouldn't kill what isn't in it's way as in a way everyone is in it's way.

"Another element I wanted to put out there was this film could be the beginning of the resistance. Danny Dyson is introduced as a young adult carrying on his father's work(he doesn't know what happened in T2) and has taken Cyberdyne systems and teamed it up with OCP(who is well aware of this new threat as soon as it began, they want Murphy dead). "

I like this, he could want to keep up his fathers legacy and could be one of the masterminds of Sky-net. Also the old man should be dead, the problem with two was they made him a dick, in the robocop series, perhaps the young black executive, I'm not being racist i don't remember his name, could be in charge and OCP is on its last legs and needs this to work and he has taken it on as a personal project?

So in a way i like it, it needs some tweaking here and their, but its good. These are just my thoughts, i hope you developed the idea as it sounds really interesting, hope some of what I'm saying in this bump helps.

I'm not a writer, at least not in the structure type way, so this is really just a blueprint of an idea. I thought about including Dr. Silberman in the script, bu I just figured since he witnessed what happened in the 2nd one I'd leave him to just be given a nod too. I didn't like his cameo in part 3, as he was there just for continuity laughs.

The idea of Murphy stopping John because he's shoplifting is a decent idea, but that's what he was doing in T3(and while the film was okay, it was a sad continuation).

The black guy you're talking about is the one who was a good guy of sorts in 1 and 2 and than seemed like a bad guy in the 3rd one right? The guy with the glasses?

I was also thinking of having screenshots from Robocops 1 and 2 and Terminator 1 and 2 going as the opening credits are rolling. Having a theme that combines both the Terminator and Robocop themes together.

Having Robocop being shot or knocked down by The Terminator is a great idea, this way when he says it at the end its means more because he didn't get to say it earlier.

I was also thinking about having a twist in which OCP reveals that Robocop is actually the first model Terminator, with ED-209 being the 2nd model.

The Terminator not recognizing Robocop is because he wasn't given that information in its programming.

The part with Murphy saying "I'm Sorry" and than knocking John out is a bit cliched. I would like it to be sudden, perhaps Murphy could apologize later, but it would be a shock to not only John, but to the audience.

Thanks for ideas, I'm also writing a draft for 2 new Crow films and could use a co-writer.

first off, my main gripes with T3 were the way they dealt with the T-X or rather didn't, they defeat her in a convincing way, then have her fight again five minutes later??? wtf!

My other gripe is the continuity killer "We never could stop judgement day.." erm what!? so all the time i put into T2 was for nothing!????

Yeah the guy with the glasses who says about Murphy's food "tastes like baby-food" it'd be nice to bring in characters from each series and see how they'd react to each other.

i like the intro idea, and with both themes being fantastic, well the original robocop them and T-2's theme, a remix of both or something like the batman superman adventures could work out really well.

Though the idea of Murphy being the first model for the terminators is good and different, ED-209 came first, why not have him as the blueprint for actual robots and robocop for an experiment by the company later on if human/computer interface works. As ed-209 is like the terminator in that both have things to do and nothing will stop them.....unless reprogrammed.

When John is knocked out, why not have Murphy just look at him, and play footage of his own son, and John scream "help me!" and Murphy trying to save him, by not letting him battle?

yeah, no problem with giving the ideas, i would love to see this get made, as it is a great concept and even though both franchises have been watered down by sequels and such they can still be used if brought back to basics.

Just a thought i got, why not have the doctor as a protester outside OCP about robocop? With him saying it's the end of the world if he lives? Also why not have John smashing up a place to call out Robocop to destroy him? this will happen at the start before John realises Murphy is still human. I don't like the idea of a suspicious kid, it doesn't sit right with me, it seems like its just a way to introduce the character.

And yeah, about your last part, as i haven't got a bloody clue how to do partial quotes, so yeah, if you want i could help with that.

[annericelover]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Skynet's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Seargant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

[SuaveStar]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Sky-net's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Sergeant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

Well you can blame Linda Hamilton for James Cameron!

That's a good catch about the whole kyle Reese thing, i never thought of that.

What if Robocop is made ten years after the end of T2 and as we can't truly say when and how a man is murdered as the future is being written right now, Murphy's death could be the instigator of the return of Sky-net? This way time has passed, and everything seems fine, and perhaps John is now working at a gas station or some job where he can get paid in cash and that's how he hears about Murphy?

Your comment about T2 can be summed up in this quote "I swear i will not kill anybody.." but dammit it's still in my top three favourite movies of all time.

the whole keeping the military out of it, why not have sky-net as the security advancement department for OCP as the normal cops are dieing too fast for new recruits to take over, and robocop could cost less in long term for OCP, i think this might be a plot-line for robocop 2.

How about when John is in jail being interrogated, Silberman is the one talking to John and explaining to John that the events of Judgement day as Sarah told him after the events of T2.

The crooked cops was a theme of robocop 2 wasn't it? with that guy who gets tortured by Kane?

the fight between Murphy and John about John coming, how about-we cut from John talking to Murphy to seconds later, John knocked out and Murphy going to fight the terminator. About a minute later Murphy drives along and he plays what happened with John and Murphy shouting at his son inter-splicing the two together?

Later Murphy could say(You said this in your first draft) Murphy saying "I'm sorry"

What I'm wondering is how will they beat the terminators?

Cause i don't think anyone wants the kind of cop out that T3 took!

I'm still mad about that.

[annericelover]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Sky-net's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Sergeant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

Well you can blame Linda Hamilton for James Cameron!

That's a good catch about the whole kyle Reese thing, i never thought of that.

What if Robocop is made ten years after the end of T2 and as we can't truly say when and how a man is murdered as the future is being written right now, Murphy's death could be the instigator of the return of Sky-net? This way time has passed, and everything seems fine, and perhaps John is now working at a gas station or some job where he can get paid in cash and that's how he hears about Murphy?

Your comment about T2 can be summed up in this quote "I swear i will not kill anybody.." but dammit it's still in my top three favourite movies of all time.

the whole keeping the military out of it, why not have sky-net as the security advancement department for OCP as the normal cops are dieing too fast for new recruits to take over, and robocop could cost less in long term for OCP, i think this might be a plot-line for robocop 2.

How about when John is in jail being interrogated, Silberman is the one talking to John and explaining to John that the events of Judgement day as Sarah told him after the events of T2.

The crooked cops was a theme of robocop 2 wasn't it? with that guy who gets tortured by Kane?

the fight between Murphy and John about John coming, how about-we cut from John talking to Murphy to seconds later, John knocked out and Murphy going to fight the terminator. About a minute later Murphy drives along and he plays what happened with John and Murphy shouting at his son inter-splicing the two together?

Later Murphy could say(You said this in your first draft) Murphy saying "I'm sorry"

What I'm wondering is how will they beat the terminators?

Cause i don't think anyone wants the kind of cop out that T3 took!

I'm still mad about that.

The continuation of having crooked cops being on the force is just to show how messed up Detroit has gotten and to show that OCP is trying to hurry the end.

The way of beating the Terminators? That is something I'm still trying to figure out. I don't want to cheat the audience with something like blowing up the factory. How about sending a virus through the main computer which will screw up the Terminator's programming.

We can never change the future, because than John won't exist. So there always has to be a sense of Judgement Day still coming...

[SuaveStar]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Sky-net's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Sergeant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

Well you can blame Linda Hamilton for James Cameron!

That's a good catch about the whole kyle Reese thing, i never thought of that.

What if Robocop is made ten years after the end of T2 and as we can't truly say when and how a man is murdered as the future is being written right now, Murphy's death could be the instigator of the return of Sky-net? This way time has passed, and everything seems fine, and perhaps John is now working at a gas station or some job where he can get paid in cash and that's how he hears about Murphy?

Your comment about T2 can be summed up in this quote "I swear i will not kill anybody.." but dammit it's still in my top three favourite movies of all time.

the whole keeping the military out of it, why not have sky-net as the security advancement department for OCP as the normal cops are dieing too fast for new recruits to take over, and robocop could cost less in long term for OCP, i think this might be a plot-line for robocop 2.

How about when John is in jail being interrogated, Silberman is the one talking to John and explaining to John that the events of Judgement day as Sarah told him after the events of T2.

The crooked cops was a theme of robocop 2 wasn't it? with that guy who gets tortured by Kane?

the fight between Murphy and John about John coming, how about-we cut from John talking to Murphy to seconds later, John knocked out and Murphy going to fight the terminator. About a minute later Murphy drives along and he plays what happened with John and Murphy shouting at his son inter-splicing the two together?

Later Murphy could say(You said this in your first draft) Murphy saying "I'm sorry"

What I'm wondering is how will they beat the terminators?

Cause i don't think anyone wants the kind of cop out that T3 took!

I'm still mad about that.

The continuation of having crooked cops being on the force is just to show how messed up Detroit has gotten and to show that OCP is trying to hurry the end.

The way of beating the Terminators? That is something I'm still trying to figure out. I don't want to cheat the audience with something like blowing up the factory. How about sending a virus through the main computer which will screw up the Terminator's programming.

We can never change the future, because than John won't exist. So there always has to be a sense of Judgement Day still coming...

What if as Murphy is technically its grandfather the system does not recognise him as a threat, Murphy can go in and take out the main security of sky-net and destroy the system. to handle the cant kill it completely problem, why not brainiac it? have the system be on a hard drive that the head of OCP is keeping with him as, the shock ending is he was a terminator sent back to take over OCP? that's kind of cliched i know but if done right, it might work. Why not have OCP just saying "Fuck it, robocop works, lets make more" and so they mass produce thousands of clones of him, not actual clones, but close to him, but they don't have the human interface so it's just computers alone now?

[annericelover]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Sky-net's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Sergeant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

Well you can blame Linda Hamilton for James Cameron!

That's a good catch about the whole kyle Reese thing, i never thought of that.

What if Robocop is made ten years after the end of T2 and as we can't truly say when and how a man is murdered as the future is being written right now, Murphy's death could be the instigator of the return of Sky-net? This way time has passed, and everything seems fine, and perhaps John is now working at a gas station or some job where he can get paid in cash and that's how he hears about Murphy?

Your comment about T2 can be summed up in this quote "I swear i will not kill anybody.." but dammit it's still in my top three favourite movies of all time.

the whole keeping the military out of it, why not have sky-net as the security advancement department for OCP as the normal cops are dieing too fast for new recruits to take over, and robocop could cost less in long term for OCP, i think this might be a plot-line for robocop 2.

How about when John is in jail being interrogated, Silberman is the one talking to John and explaining to John that the events of Judgement day as Sarah told him after the events of T2.

The crooked cops was a theme of robocop 2 wasn't it? with that guy who gets tortured by Kane?

the fight between Murphy and John about John coming, how about-we cut from John talking to Murphy to seconds later, John knocked out and Murphy going to fight the terminator. About a minute later Murphy drives along and he plays what happened with John and Murphy shouting at his son inter-splicing the two together?

Later Murphy could say(You said this in your first draft) Murphy saying "I'm sorry"

What I'm wondering is how will they beat the terminators?

Cause i don't think anyone wants the kind of cop out that T3 took!

I'm still mad about that.

The continuation of having crooked cops being on the force is just to show how messed up Detroit has gotten and to show that OCP is trying to hurry the end.

The way of beating the Terminators? That is something I'm still trying to figure out. I don't want to cheat the audience with something like blowing up the factory. How about sending a virus through the main computer which will screw up the Terminator's programming.

We can never change the future, because than John won't exist. So there always has to be a sense of Judgement Day still coming...

What if as Murphy is technically its grandfather the system does not recognise him as a threat, Murphy can go in and take out the main security of sky-net and destroy the system. to handle the cant kill it completely problem, why not brainiac it? have the system be on a hard drive that the head of OCP is keeping with him as, the shock ending is he was a terminator sent back to take over OCP? that's kind of cliched i know but if done right, it might work. Why not have OCP just saying "Fuck it, robocop works, lets make more" and so they mass produce thousands of clones of him, not actual clones, but close to him, but they don't have the human interface so it's just computers alone now?

How about revealing that the head of OCP is the one who made the computer's self aware and turn on the human race? I thought about the clone idea, it may work. How much of Murphy's body wasn't used when they built Robocop, perhaps OCP put that on ice. I can see Robocop going in and disabling the other Robocop's, blowing up that factory, while John is in the main OCP building uploading the virus into Skynet's main computer.

I don't want this to be series, so we'd have to make it so there is no Robocop Vs Terminator II, like with AvP II.

[SuaveStar]

My gripe with T3 was that James Cameron wasn't writer/director, lol. It is true, they did all that in part 2 to stop Judgment Day and now you find out there is no stopping it. It's a decent idea, because if they did actually stop Judgment Day, John could never excist because Kyle would have never went back to the past to have sex with Sarah and made John. AHH!!! Those damn Time Paradox, lol.

I completely forgot ED-209 was there first, I'm a dumbass, yes ED-209 would of course be a T-Model 1.

The watered down sequels comment is right. I want to get back to the R-Rated basics of the first Robocop film and first Terminator film(as much as I LOVE T2, it was a bit lighter).

I don't want to include the military, like T3 did as the people responsible for continuing Sky-net's work on the Terminators. Having Danny Dyson or at least someone close to the family work at OCP is something I'd like to do. He could at OCP wanting to make his father proud, while the head of OCP, knows what will happen in the future(not sure yet on how he would know, but the tape footage from T1 and T2 would be seen or at least heard) and is trying to make it happen sooner rather than later.

The protesting idea was used in the Robocop films, I was thinking of just having a few crooked cops still on the force, with OCP developing more Robocop types to be put out on the streets(in other words the protest from the 1st and 2nd films had no effects, so the cops quit), maybe the only good cop left is the Sergeant, trying to keep the crooked cops in line somehow.

Maybe we could have John and Murphy go to Silberman for something, not sure what, but I don't know.

John smashing up stuff to get Murphy's attention? I don't know perhaps, but I thought of John as someone who doesn't want to put attention to himself, besides he has no idea about Robocop, that's why he didn't know that Murphy wasn't after to kill him. But the idea of having Murphy play a video of his son could be useful. How about when John says something arrogant toward Murphy, Murphy remembers the last conversation he had with his son and it being a fight(we see him practicing that gun trick in part 1, because he wants to make up with him).

Well you can blame Linda Hamilton for James Cameron!

That's a good catch about the whole kyle Reese thing, i never thought of that.

What if Robocop is made ten years after the end of T2 and as we can't truly say when and how a man is murdered as the future is being written right now, Murphy's death could be the instigator of the return of Sky-net? This way time has passed, and everything seems fine, and perhaps John is now working at a gas station or some job where he can get paid in cash and that's how he hears about Murphy?

Your comment about T2 can be summed up in this quote "I swear i will not kill anybody.." but dammit it's still in my top three favourite movies of all time.

the whole keeping the military out of it, why not have sky-net as the security advancement department for OCP as the normal cops are dieing too fast for new recruits to take over, and robocop could cost less in long term for OCP, i think this might be a plot-line for robocop 2.

How about when John is in jail being interrogated, Silberman is the one talking to John and explaining to John that the events of Judgement day as Sarah told him after the events of T2.

The crooked cops was a theme of robocop 2 wasn't it? with that guy who gets tortured by Kane?

the fight between Murphy and John about John coming, how about-we cut from John talking to Murphy to seconds later, John knocked out and Murphy going to fight the terminator. About a minute later Murphy drives along and he plays what happened with John and Murphy shouting at his son inter-splicing the two together?

Later Murphy could say(You said this in your first draft) Murphy saying "I'm sorry"

What I'm wondering is how will they beat the terminators?

Cause i don't think anyone wants the kind of cop out that T3 took!

I'm still mad about that.

The continuation of having crooked cops being on the force is just to show how messed up Detroit has gotten and to show that OCP is trying to hurry the end.

The way of beating the Terminators? That is something I'm still trying to figure out. I don't want to cheat the audience with something like blowing up the factory. How about sending a virus through the main computer which will screw up the Terminator's programming.

We can never change the future, because than John won't exist. So there always has to be a sense of Judgement Day still coming...

What if as Murphy is technically its grandfather the system does not recognise him as a threat, Murphy can go in and take out the main security of sky-net and destroy the system. to handle the cant kill it completely problem, why not brainiac it? have the system be on a hard drive that the head of OCP is keeping with him as, the shock ending is he was a terminator sent back to take over OCP? that's kind of cliched i know but if done right, it might work. Why not have OCP just saying "Fuck it, robocop works, lets make more" and so they mass produce thousands of clones of him, not actual clones, but close to him, but they don't have the human interface so it's just computers alone now?

How about revealing that the head of OCP is the one who made the computer's self aware and turn on the human race? I thought about the clone idea, it may work. How much of Murphy's body wasn't used when they built Robocop, perhaps OCP put that on ice. I can see Robocop going in and disabling the other Robocop's, blowing up that factory, while John is in the main OCP building uploading the virus into Skynet's main computer.

I don't want this to be series, so we'd have to make it so there is no Robocop Vs Terminator II, like with AvP II.

The whole self aware thing could be used as a way of cutting corners in the company? that would give a reason for not using real subjects as they take time and money to use. What if the head of the company uses the computer to keep him alive for years to come inside a machine like Murphy only he screws it up. they destroyed the rest as they would just give up if Murphy failed as robocop. what if the main building has john holding the executive hostage for what he knows and Murphy going through the science labs destroying the technology or setting up a bomb? John decides to kill the head of OCP and Murphy doesn't physically stop him but warns John that he would become a criminal and that would mean he would have to take him in? John puts the gun on the desk and walks out and the head of the company blows his own brains out?

What if Murphy decides he must die like Arnie did in two to stop sky-net and john must do it, as if john does it, then john takes a part in history and alters the future and makes sure he cannot be unborn?

Murphy asks John to find his wife and tell her he loves her, john destroys Murphy, and so Sky-net is gone. we cut to a few days later and the end of OCP and the cops coming back to work, they would have been fired in favour of the first wave of terminators. which would lead to a final human vs terminators battle, which we all wanted to see. John the parks outside Murphy's old home and knocks on the door and Murphy's wife answers, and John walks in and tells her about Murphy and what happened, and how he is a hero, not was, is. Then we end the movie, with John saying this is not over, it will never be over but with people like Alex Murphy, this was just stepped in favour of the humans.

[annericelover]

The whole self aware thing could be used as a way of cutting corners in the company? that would give a reason for not using real subjects as they take time and money to use. What if the head of the company uses the computer to keep him alive for years to come inside a machine like Murphy only he screws it up. they destroyed the rest as they would just give up if Murphy failed as robocop. what if the main building has john holding the executive hostage for what he knows and Murphy going through the science labs destroying the technology or setting up a bomb? John decides to kill the head of OCP and Murphy doesn't physically stop him but warns John that he would become a criminal and that would mean he would have to take him in? John puts the gun on the desk and walks out and the head of the company blows his own brains out?

What if Murphy decides he must die like Arnie did in two to stop sky-net and john must do it, as if john does it, then john takes a part in history and alters the future and makes sure he cannot be unborn?

Murphy asks John to find his wife and tell her he loves her, john destroys Murphy, and so Sky-net is gone. we cut to a few days later and the end of OCP and the cops coming back to work, they would have been fired in favour of the first wave of terminators. which would lead to a final human vs terminators battle, which we all wanted to see. John the parks outside Murphy's old home and knocks on the door and Murphy's wife answers, and John walks in and tells her about Murphy and what happened, and how he is a hero, not was, is. Then we end the movie, with John saying this is not over, it will never be over but with people like Alex Murphy, this was just stepped in favour of the humans.

I like the ending with the cops coming back to work, what about a voice over with John explaining how its not the end, the beginning of Judgment Day is in front of us, but with people with Alex Murphy, maybe there is still hope that we can prevent our own extinction.

You have to remember that Murphy's wife already knows that Murphy is Robocop, in Robocop II Murphy tells her that he is dead and that his image in Robocop is an honor for him. You could have it where John finds his son(during the voice over) and tells his son what happen and a handshake, showing John making his first recruit and cut to credits.

[SuaveStar]

The whole self aware thing could be used as a way of cutting corners in the company? that would give a reason for not using real subjects as they take time and money to use. What if the head of the company uses the computer to keep him alive for years to come inside a machine like Murphy only he screws it up. they destroyed the rest as they would just give up if Murphy failed as robocop. what if the main building has john holding the executive hostage for what he knows and Murphy going through the science labs destroying the technology or setting up a bomb? John decides to kill the head of OCP and Murphy doesn't physically stop him but warns John that he would become a criminal and that would mean he would have to take him in? John puts the gun on the desk and walks out and the head of the company blows his own brains out?

What if Murphy decides he must die like Arnie did in two to stop sky-net and john must do it, as if john does it, then john takes a part in history and alters the future and makes sure he cannot be unborn?

Murphy asks John to find his wife and tell her he loves her, john destroys Murphy, and so Sky-net is gone. we cut to a few days later and the end of OCP and the cops coming back to work, they would have been fired in favour of the first wave of terminators. which would lead to a final human vs terminators battle, which we all wanted to see. John the parks outside Murphy's old home and knocks on the door and Murphy's wife answers, and John walks in and tells her about Murphy and what happened, and how he is a hero, not was, is. Then we end the movie, with John saying this is not over, it will never be over but with people like Alex Murphy, this was just stepped in favour of the humans.

I like the ending with the cops coming back to work, what about a voice over with John explaining how its not the end, the beginning of Judgment Day is in front of us, but with people with Alex Murphy, maybe there is still hope that we can prevent our own extinction.

You have to remember that Murphy's wife already knows that Murphy is Robocop, in Robocop II Murphy tells her that he is dead and that his image in Robocop is an honor for him. You could have it where John finds his son(during the voice over) and tells his son what happen and a handshake, showing John making his first recruit and cut to credits.

Yeah, the first recruit could work, Murphy still loves his wife though and i think John should tell her, and ignore tv show continuity!

[annericelover]

The whole self aware thing could be used as a way of cutting corners in the company? that would give a reason for not using real subjects as they take time and money to use. What if the head of the company uses the computer to keep him alive for years to come inside a machine like Murphy only he screws it up. they destroyed the rest as they would just give up if Murphy failed as robocop. what if the main building has john holding the executive hostage for what he knows and Murphy going through the science labs destroying the technology or setting up a bomb? John decides to kill the head of OCP and Murphy doesn't physically stop him but warns John that he would become a criminal and that would mean he would have to take him in? John puts the gun on the desk and walks out and the head of the company blows his own brains out?

What if Murphy decides he must die like Arnie did in two to stop sky-net and john must do it, as if john does it, then john takes a part in history and alters the future and makes sure he cannot be unborn?

Murphy asks John to find his wife and tell her he loves her, john destroys Murphy, and so Sky-net is gone. we cut to a few days later and the end of OCP and the cops coming back to work, they would have been fired in favour of the first wave of terminators. which would lead to a final human vs terminators battle, which we all wanted to see. John the parks outside Murphy's old home and knocks on the door and Murphy's wife answers, and John walks in and tells her about Murphy and what happened, and how he is a hero, not was, is. Then we end the movie, with John saying this is not over, it will never be over but with people like Alex Murphy, this was just stepped in favour of the humans.

I like the ending with the cops coming back to work, what about a voice over with John explaining how its not the end, the beginning of Judgment Day is in front of us, but with people with Alex Murphy, maybe there is still hope that we can prevent our own extinction.

You have to remember that Murphy's wife already knows that Murphy is Robocop, in Robocop II Murphy tells her that he is dead and that his image in Robocop is an honor for him. You could have it where John finds his son(during the voice over) and tells his son what happen and a handshake, showing John making his first recruit and cut to credits.

Yeah, the first recruit could work, Murphy still loves his wife though and i think John should tell her, and ignore tv show continuity!

I was thinking about whether the TV Series should be in continuity, it was actually quite dark for a 90's TV Series. But I ultimately decided to not include it. The reasons for this are; 1. I don't remember much about the series except it was dark in tone and the credits featured a scene from the first movie. 2. I don't want to have to keep too much history other than the 4 movies(2 Robocop and 2 Terminators)intact.

I never got to see the other TV Series(I actually think it was just a pilot)and only saw 1 cartoon episode.

I was thinking after we see the handshake and it goes to black, we'd hear thump sound with the words(The Future Has Begun....)and than credits.

[SuaveStar]

The whole self aware thing could be used as a way of cutting corners in the company? that would give a reason for not using real subjects as they take time and money to use. What if the head of the company uses the computer to keep him alive for years to come inside a machine like Murphy only he screws it up. they destroyed the rest as they would just give up if Murphy failed as robocop. what if the main building has john holding the executive hostage for what he knows and Murphy going through the science labs destroying the technology or setting up a bomb? John decides to kill the head of OCP and Murphy doesn't physically stop him but warns John that he would become a criminal and that would mean he would have to take him in? John puts the gun on the desk and walks out and the head of the company blows his own brains out?

What if Murphy decides he must die like Arnie did in two to stop sky-net and john must do it, as if john does it, then john takes a part in history and alters the future and makes sure he cannot be unborn?

Murphy asks John to find his wife and tell her he loves her, john destroys Murphy, and so Sky-net is gone. we cut to a few days later and the end of OCP and the cops coming back to work, they would have been fired in favour of the first wave of terminators. which would lead to a final human vs terminators battle, which we all wanted to see. John the parks outside Murphy's old home and knocks on the door and Murphy's wife answers, and John walks in and tells her about Murphy and what happened, and how he is a hero, not was, is. Then we end the movie, with John saying this is not over, it will never be over but with people like Alex Murphy, this was just stepped in favour of the humans.

I like the ending with the cops coming back to work, what about a voice over with John explaining how its not the end, the beginning of Judgment Day is in front of us, but with people with Alex Murphy, maybe there is still hope that we can prevent our own extinction.

You have to remember that Murphy's wife already knows that Murphy is Robocop, in Robocop II Murphy tells her that he is dead and that his image in Robocop is an honor for him. You could have it where John finds his son(during the voice over) and tells his son what happen and a handshake, showing John making his first recruit and cut to credits.

Yeah, the first recruit could work, Murphy still loves his wife though and i think John should tell her, and ignore tv show continuity!

I was thinking about whether the TV Series should be in continuity, it was actually quite dark for a 90's TV Series. But I ultimately decided to not include it. The reasons for this are; 1. I don't remember much about the series except it was dark in tone and the credits featured a scene from the first movie. 2. I don't want to have to keep too much history other than the 4 movies(2 Robocop and 2 Terminators)intact.

I never got to see the other TV Series(I actually think it was just a pilot)and only saw 1 cartoon episode.

I was thinking after we see the handshake and it goes to black, we'd hear thump sound with the words(The Future Has Begun....)and than credits.

I got the TV show on DVD and it does not hold up well, in fact the are just shit.

The cartoon was just the story's of Murphy and Lewis and they were also shit.

But i loved them as a kid, because......it's fucking robocop!

The whole the future has begun thing is nice, but instead end the same way that the terminator movies ended it. Have a long journey down the road with John, narrating it and saying that I know know that their are people out their who we can trust, i know their are people that i can trust.....

John then says that Judgement Day may never be averted, but we now have more time to prepare.

What if John meets Murphy's son and his mother and she has taken on her new husbands name and so has her son....Reese?

And that would be Kyle's older brother/father?

[annericelover]

I got the TV show on DVD and it does not hold up well, in fact the are just shit.

The cartoon was just the story's of Murphy and Lewis and they were also shit.

But i loved them as a kid, because......it's fucking robocop!

The whole the future has begun thing is nice, but instead end the same way that the terminator movies ended it. Have a long journey down the road with John, narrating it and saying that I know know that their are people out their who we can trust, i know their are people that i can trust.....

John then says that Judgement Day may never be averted, but we now have more time to prepare.

What if John meets Murphy's son and his mother and she has taken on her new husbands name and so has her son....Reese?

And that would be Kyle's older brother/father?

I don't know about the whole Robocop's son being Kyles father or brother. I would definitely have to think about that. I don't want it to just be another "Luke, I am your father" type thing.

I do remember loving the first TV show(I know there was another live action thing, but forget if it was a show or pilot movie).

I don't want to end the film, like the other 2 Terminator films. I'd like to end it like the 1st Robocop film, with the sudden title.

Murphy's wife being alive or even in the film is something I am still thinking about. I mean I can write a scene with it and see what test audience would think(in a screening)and write an alternate ending, which I posted before.

Did they release the series on DVD or do you just have a bootleg version? Check out my myspace for box art of my Freddy's Nightmares and Halloween 6 Bootleg(or better yet fan made) sets I have www.myspace.com/eric20other2002

[SuaveStar]

I got the TV show on DVD and it does not hold up well, in fact the are just shit.

The cartoon was just the story's of Murphy and Lewis and they were also shit.

But i loved them as a kid, because......it's fucking robocop!

The whole the future has begun thing is nice, but instead end the same way that the terminator movies ended it. Have a long journey down the road with John, narrating it and saying that I know know that their are people out their who we can trust, i know their are people that i can trust.....

John then says that Judgement Day may never be averted, but we now have more time to prepare.

What if John meets Murphy's son and his mother and she has taken on her new husbands name and so has her son....Reese?

And that would be Kyle's older brother/father?

I don't know about the whole Robocop's son being Kyles father or brother. I would definitely have to think about that. I don't want it to just be another "Luke, I am your father" type thing.

I do remember loving the first TV show(I know there was another live action thing, but forget if it was a show or pilot movie).

I don't want to end the film, like the other 2 Terminator films. I'd like to end it like the 1st Robocop film, with the sudden title.

Murphy's wife being alive or even in the film is something I am still thinking about. I mean I can write a scene with it and see what test audience would think(in a screening)and write an alternate ending, which I posted before.

Did they release the series on DVD or do you just have a bootleg version? Check out my myspace for box art of my Freddy's Nightmares and Halloween 6 Bootleg(or better yet fan made) sets I have www.myspace.com/eric20other2002

Well, you don't need to have John speaking to Murphy's son, why not have him pull over at the house and be holding the picture fro the first movie?

I agree with the end of robocop where they're would just have whats your name "Murphy"

The TV show was released on DVD and i paid £13 for it, and my god i could not get through the second disc for the life of me!

Yeah fan-made sounds better than than bootleg, bootleg sounds like its funding drug rings or worse some guys Saturday job!

[annericelover]

Well, you don't need to have John speaking to Murphy's son, why not have him pull over at the house and be holding the picture fro the first movie?

I agree with the end of robocop where they're would just have whats your name "Murphy"

The TV show was released on DVD and i paid £13 for it, and my god i could not get through the second disc for the life of me!

Yeah fan-made sounds better than than bootleg, bootleg sounds like its funding drug rings or worse some guys Saturday job!

You mean the photos of Sarah and the dog? Or the Halloween pic. I like the idea of the recruiting of Murphy's son, but him holding the pic up to him to prove he knows(if he lives)or knew(if he dies)his father.

A bootleg is the selling of a product available elsewhere, but not on that market. Freddy's Nightmares isn't available anywhere else. The VHS's have stopped being made, Chiller TV(which I don't have)no longer shows it. The only other place to see it other than the fan set is on video.aol.com I can give you the info if you're interested. My friends is great and he will see it gets to where you are.

[SuaveStar]

Well, you don't need to have John speaking to Murphy's son, why not have him pull over at the house and be holding the picture fro the first movie?

I agree with the end of robocop where they're would just have whats your name "Murphy"

The TV show was released on DVD and i paid £13 for it, and my god i could not get through the second disc for the life of me!

Yeah fan-made sounds better than than bootleg, bootleg sounds like its funding drug rings or worse some guys Saturday job!

You mean the photos of Sarah and the dog? Or the Halloween pic. I like the idea of the recruiting of Murphy's son, but him holding the pic up to him to prove he knows(if he lives)or knew(if he dies)his father.

A bootleg is the selling of a product available elsewhere, but not on that market. Freddy's Nightmares isn't available anywhere else. The VHS's have stopped being made, Chiller TV(which I don't have)no longer shows it. The only other place to see it other than the fan set is on video.aol.com I can give you the info if you're interested. My friends is great and he will see it gets to where you are.

The halloween photo, i like that in the first robocop movie Murphy looks at it and has the memory's that make him wonder who he is, and what the hell is going on.

I'm wondering about the recruitment of Murphy's son and can't think of one that won't look cheesy.

Well, for the Freddy's nightmare set, i saw a couple of the clips of the show on you-tube, and they looked really cheap. I'm not saying it's a bad show, i mean what i saw was just odd looking.

How are the bootlegs anyway? Quality and sound wise?

PM with your friends site/eBay page and I'll see what he has, i saw the sets that you posted elsewhere and they looked like good quality ones.

I could put a joke in here that only people who have ever been to Glasgow could get, but dammit it I'm a crap joke whore "it doesn't look like the crap you used to get at the barras!"