dc20willsave Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 In my head Canon, if Kahn isn't in this one, then Old Spock went off to blow up the Botany Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 If Cumberbatch turns out to be Khan, or the universe equivalent, I will be INCREDIBLY happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 That would introduce a whole hell of a lot of continuity problems. The time travel event in the last movie only affected events taking place after the year 2233, so it wouldn't make sense for Khan to be entirely, completely different from his Ricardo Montalban version. Also, there's another problem. They'd have to address that Khan is from the Eugenics Wars, which everyone knows at this point didn't happen in the 1990s like they were supposed to. I think it'd be best to have Cumberbatch be an entirely different character, but still a genetically altered superhuman. So you can have a similar type of villain, but not literally make him Khan himself. Hell, knowing Cumberbatch, there's a chance his villain could be better than Khan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hardly unprecended. Wolf 359 comes to mind. I was thinking that as well, but this implies destruction on Earth. The only comparable events would be the weather disaster in The Voyage Home or the Breen attack in DS9 Season 7. From what's been implied thus far, Into Darkness is like Wolf 359 combined with the Breen attack, doubled over again. That almost seems to mirror the Zindi attack on Earth from Enterprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Does it include me getting to see Cumberbatch shirtless? Then A+, will watch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 That almost seems to mirror the Zindi attack on Earth from Enterprise. I knew I was forgetting one. Nice catch. That one is a bit different as well. It's an almost-random attack on civilians (just to test a superweapon) rather than an attempt to cripple the whole of Starfleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Personally, I hope Kahn isn't in this movie, he's been done. I'm still really hoping Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Evil Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I think Karl Urban let that one slip didn't he. Personally, I think Gary Mitchell is a great choice in the same way Khan was for the second movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I am not nearly geek leveled up enough for the talk going on in this thread. TO WIKIPEDIA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Gary Mitchell seems weird. I mean, he's basically a god. Not really sure how that's going to work for an action movie. I always assumed that Urban was purposely leaking out lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Evil Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 So who is Cumberbatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Ooooooooh. And Gareth, are you talking character wise or who he is in the trailer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I mean character wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 New villain, I'm thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Slightly longer Japanese trailer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Ooohh! That final image will be very familiar to Star Trek fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Evil Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Alice Eve looks the spit of Sally Kellerman. I think Cumberbatch is definitely playing Gary Mitchell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 That final reference that he made to family, combined with the fact that he's leaping around and carrying that massive chain gun, I'm going with a Khan-style superhuman if not Khan himself. I just don't see why Gary Mitchell would bother with any of that, he's basically a god, and his transformation is brought about by contact with the galactic barrier whilst on board the enterprise. He doesn't have any reason to want to destroy the Federation or take vengence on earth, not like Khan. Whoever he is, they're playing him up as a huge deal, which is awesome. The first film was Star Trek Begins. This one is the Dark Knight and Cumberbatch is the Joker. Anyone else think his VO sounds like Picard? Also the last five seconds just made me think "Sylar wants out of this francise already? For gods sake!". The next film would totally be Search for Sylar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 That final reference that he made to family, combined with the fact that he's leaping around and carrying that massive chain gun, I'm going with a Khan-style superhuman if not Khan himself. I just don't see why Gary Mitchell would bother with any of that, he's basically a god, and his transformation is brought about by contact with the galactic barrier whilst on board the enterprise. He doesn't have any reason to want to destroy the Federation or take vengence on earth, not like Khan. This, exactly. He says "your world" and "I have returned to have my vengeance," which doesn't make any sense whatsoever if he's a normal guy from Earth, even one imbued with godlike powers. I'd say this is a Khan-like superhuman. Hell, maybe it's just a different guy from Khan's super-soldier army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Yup. I mean, the eugenics wars wasn't Khan vs normal people necessarily, it probably had plenty of factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 He's this universe's Shinzon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Great, new blonde girl prepare to be mind-raped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Great, new blonde girl prepare to be mind-raped. Nah, Kirk is going to love her with his dick, not his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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