Garfield Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I'll freely admit it's not helping. But when you have eighteen people undoing fifty years plus of civil rights and deciding to say that they don't need to follow laws that are in place to ensure bipartisanship, all that matters is that they get their way, people tend to get just a little angry. Federal workers don't have collective bargaining rights. Are they denied civil rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yes, they are. Go back prior to the 1940s/50s, and look at basic labor conditions without the right to collective bargaining. Hell, look at conditions in China and India, were they don't have that whole union thing. Not exactly the greatest thing in the world. Management always goes for the bottom line, and has a tendency to not really care about that whole safety thing. What this comes down to, is do I trust the Republicans/corporations to do the right thing and not reduce wages/conditions/things like health care? Hell no. Funny enough, the NFL explains it pretty damn well. And I'm not saying that there aren't cases in which labor unions aren't corrupt. I'll freely admit that that may be the case at times. But how the hell is a teacher making 50k a year making too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Regardless of what they did, how they did it is more important. If it's decided they broke the law, then none of this matters because it didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yes, they are. Go back prior to the 1940s/50s, and look at basic labor conditions without the right to collective bargaining. Hell, look at conditions in China and India, were they don't have that whole union thing. Not exactly the greatest thing in the world. Management always goes for the bottom line, and has a tendency to not really care about that whole safety thing. What this comes down to, is do I trust the Republicans/corporations to do the right thing and not reduce wages/conditions/things like health care? Hell no. Funny enough, the NFL explains it pretty damn well. And I'm not saying that there aren't cases in which labor unions aren't corrupt. I'll freely admit that that may be the case at times. But how the hell is a teacher making 50k a year making too much? First of all, we aren't China. Second of all, federal workers get better pensions than any privte union worker could ever dream of. Unions are not a civil right, I'm sorry to say. That is a bit much. Since the unions universally support the Democrats, there's no way I'd trust them be objective on the matter. A teacher who makes 50K a year who is very bad at their job is making too much. They shouldn't be teachers. The problem is, teachers unions make it nearly impossible to fire the bad ones. My mother was a teacher for years, and for a state that didn't have collective bargaining, and it has not harmed her. She has a rediculously nice pension, and hates the effect those unions have had on the bad teachers she worked with. She's a Democrat, by the way. Sorry, but this is not a civil rights matter. It is a union matter. It's bad enough that people compared this bill to Pearl Harbor. Let's not get more hyperbolic than has already been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yes, they are. Go back prior to the 1940s/50s, and look at basic labor conditions without the right to collective bargaining. Hell, look at conditions in China and India, were they don't have that whole union thing. Not exactly the greatest thing in the world. Management always goes for the bottom line, and has a tendency to not really care about that whole safety thing. What this comes down to, is do I trust the Republicans/corporations to do the right thing and not reduce wages/conditions/things like health care? Hell no. Funny enough, the NFL explains it pretty damn well. And I'm not saying that there aren't cases in which labor unions aren't corrupt. I'll freely admit that that may be the case at times. But how the hell is a teacher making 50k a year making too much? First of all, we aren't China. Second of all, federal workers get better pensions than any privte union worker could ever dream of. Unions are not a civil right, I'm sorry to say. That is a bit much. Since the unions universally support the Democrats, there's no way I'd trust them be objective on the matter. A teacher who makes 50K a year who is very bad at their job is making too much. They shouldn't be teachers. The problem is, teachers unions make it nearly impossible to fire the bad ones. My mother was a teacher for years, and for a state that didn't have collective bargaining, and it has not harmed her. She has a rediculously nice pension, and hates the effect those unions have had on the bad teachers she worked with. She's a Democrat, by the way. Sorry, but this is not a civil rights matter. It is a union matter. It's bad enough that people compared this bill to Pearl Harbor. Let's not get more hyperbolic than has already been done. Who decides if a teacher is good at their job since 95% of kids move on to the next grade regardless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Regardless of what they did, how they did it is more important. If it's decided they broke the law, then none of this matters because it didn't happen. I think that's the real issue here. I've heard decent arguments from both sides about the union issue, but it never should have been pushed through the way it was. Now, I don't exactly think the Dems fleeing the state and refusing to vote was really a responsible thing to do either, but that's the lesser of the two evils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 A 7.9 earthquake has struck Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 8.4 the way it's coming out according to NHK, and two tsunamis now are taking out the coast, too. I'm awful, but damn, I'm glad I'm not there right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Now some sites are reporting it was an 8.9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Now some sites are reporting it was an 8.9. That's what the BBC are saying. Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 That's terrible. According to CNN, the Tsunami waves could hit as far as the West Coast of North America. It's also apparently the fifth strongest to hit the world since 1900 and the strongest to hit Japan since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Tsunami is about to hit us soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Stay safe, people. In other, more terrifying news, one of hte nuclear reactors has lost water and is potentially failing in Fukushima, which could cause a breach and a radiation leak. If that happens, it's going to be Chernobyl all over again, but even worse. Most of mine are confirmed alive, though there's one couple we're waiting to hear from... And the thing that's awful is that Japan has fucking AWFUL building codes/engineering, so the damage is only going to get worse. And the government assistance is kind of made of fail. (I did a whole research paper including a part on how and why the last earthquake was so awful. Fuuuuck.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Our thoughts should all be with those out there in the path of that disaster. It isn't a kind of disaster that they're in any way unfamiliar with, no one looks at an 8.9 earthquake and takes it lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 There has been an explosion at the plant, but the reactor it self is fine: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 And now a volcano has erupted in Japan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Word coming out is Elizabeth Taylor has just died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 CNN confirms it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sad. But Her legacy wil always be a bit complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 This is seriously messed up. To sum up: The prosecutors who didn't turn over evidence (eyewitness reports, blood samples, and the fact that the person who turned the guy in got a reward from the victim's family) that should have exonerated a man that was wrongly jailed for almost twenty years and was almost executed, according to the majority (whose opinions were written by Justices Scalia and Thomas), are not guilty of any crime, nor are they responsible for those 20 years that the man spent on death row. That's pretty fucked, right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 Apparently, if your daddy contributed big to Walker's campaign, and you're a college dropout who's never held a job with two drunk driving convictions, Walker can get you an 80k a year job with the State. Not that is hypocritical at all, mind you. Or an example of croneyism. No, no, state workers need to take cuts like the rest of them. Except for the ones I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 On Friday, the FBI shut down three of the world's most popular online poker sites, replacing their home pages with the message: "This domain name has been seized by the F.B.I. pursuant to an Arrest Warrant." Former Boing Boing guest-blogger Joe Menn at the Financial Times nails the story first and best, and describes it as "the largest crackdown since Congress banned electronic gambling transactions in 2006." More: In an indictment unsealed on Friday, the government accused the creators of Full Tilt Poker, PokerStars and Absolute Poker of illegal gambling, money laundering and bank fraud. The government also filed a $3bn civil suit seeking to recover profit at the companies, which are based in other countries but have the three largest shares of the US market. They seized bank accounts and the website addresses used by all three, replacing the latter with warnings that managing or owning a gambling business is a crime. None of companies could be reached for comment. The disruption of their sites and the seizure of funds could make it hard for them to do business and might dissuade some people from playing cards online. Source I don't understand why the US government passed that law in the first place when they can make money on taxing the casinos and winnings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Cause we must prevent the moral corruption of America, clearly. Also, look at when the law was passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 It's because none of the men sitting on the board of any of those sites is involved in a lobby or political party. They don't like people making money who aren't in their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 Glen Beck's Plans Now That Fox News Has Cancelled Him? Go after John Stewart. Because this will go well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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