Venneh Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 (Evangelion side note: If you consider the series ending the mental part of what's going on, and what they show in End of Evangelion both the physical and the mental, it makes sense.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 (Evangelion side note: If you consider the series ending the mental part of what's going on, and what they show in End of Evangelion both the physical and the mental, it makes sense.) I didn't say it didn't make sense, I said neither ending was satisfying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndirtyape Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Now that I have had time to take step back from the spectacle of the last episode. I think what disappointed me the most was that there was just no need for the whole flash sideways storyline. The first season flash backs served the purpose of the audience getting to know the characters and what led them to the island. The Flash forwards threw us a curve ball because we were so used to seeing a flash back but still served a purpose for the audience to see why after getting off the island they chose to get back to this god awful place. When the flash sideways started we were again given a kick up the arse and wondered what the hell these were all about. But for them all to be about when the survivors (plus a few select others) NO NOT THOSE OTHERS) eventually dies they will collectively create a purgatory because of there special bond and shared experience, a place where they can wait for each other and move on and except death together added nothing to the story of Lost and what the characters where trying to find out about what the hell is that fucked up mysterious island? what was its purpose? How do they get off it? Why did we need to see what happens to everyone once they were all dead. God knows when. What did that add? The story was these great characters surviving this weird island and who they were and how were they going to get out of this mess. Because the construction of the series was set up of present story mixed with flash back story and it worked so well early on. It seemed like the writers didn't trust themselves to just stick to a linear story telling once they got all the back story and the future story done. We didn't need the, what is this weird alternate universe. Oh no it's actually there private purgatory, at all. We just needed to see what the island is all about? Who was Jacob and what was his relationship with MIB? Who and how where they going to stop Locke/MIB/Smokezilla? What is the ultimate fate of the characters? Do they all die saving the island? Do they escape the island? And we got answers to all of that plus more but never did we need to see the after life party that told us zip about any of these questions or really about the characters. I would have been perfectly OK with a final season without the flash what ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunKL Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I've considered running through the series again, but there's just no point, the payoff is idiotic. Erg, the more I think about the whole journey to get to where it ended, it just weakens and weakens and weakens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I don't even buy it was purgatory, Sawyer got to bang Charlotte and Juliet?????? That sounds more like heaven to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Just saw "The New Man In Charge." It provides some answers. Still doesn't touch on the ending but it at least gives a little closure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Anything worth knowing? I'm not giving them any more of my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Anything worth knowing? I'm not giving them any more of my money. From what I could remember: The electromagnetism from The Orchid was the reason for the women losing their babies.The food shipments were coming from a Dharma outpost in Guam. They received payment and instructions from an automated computer at The Lamppost.Polar Bears were used by the Darma Initiative because they're resistant to electromagnetic fields.Room 23 was intended so that The Dharma Inititative could interrogate Hostiles then make them forget about it so they could get away with breaking the treaty.Walt ended up in the mental hospital (under the name Keith Johnson) that Hurley and Libby were both in and is taken by Hurley and Ben back to the island were he supposedly belongs. No explanation is given beyond that other then Ben being sorry about kidnapping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Ha. Wow. - I kinda already assumed the first one. - Food shipment thing was kinda annoying, so at least they did damage control on that. - Them bothering to explain the polar bears just shows how out of touch they became. I don't think anyone was losing sleep over that. - Assumed as such with Room 23. - The Walt thing makes ZERO sense. If he went back on the island with Hurley and Ben there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been in the church with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Actually, the polar bear thing was what I was most curious about. And now I know: if I ever need to counter an electromagnetic field, I just need to summon a polar bear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Really? You cared more about the polar bears than why Walt had superpowers, the anonymous people shooting at the freighter, why babies were being born in purgatory, why the source of the island's power revolved around a giant stone bath tub plug, etc? On my list of things they needed to deal with, polar bears were #987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 I only got through season one, dude. Polar bears were at the top of my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2010 Report Share Posted August 8, 2010 Ah. That explains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yup. Now I can die happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunKL Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 My sister recently started a new run-through of LOST. And I just have to ask her constantly, "What's the point? It's just a whole bunch of nothing surrounded by a mystery consisting of nothing that ends with nothing, there's no point to it, no payoff at the end. It's just... nothing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 See, I've heard a lot of people say that they were really happy with the show because characters actually get closure, even if the mysteries of the universe don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I really don't see where people that think that are coming from. A lot of the characters didn't get any closure at all. Honestly, it's just a bunch of people jumping on a plane and the entire rest of their lives is left up in the air. We're supposed to believe that Kate and Sawyer didn't hook back up? What happened to Miles and Richard? Claire was fucked up beyond belief, and now she has to go raise her son? Seriously? Sure, they all meet up in purgatory at the end and walk through a magic door together, but that had absolutely nothing to do with anything else that ever happened in the show. It's like watching a murder mystery for six years and at the end, everyone goes out to get some ice cream to celebrate despite the killer still being on the loose. It felt like a total cop-out, especially considering the fact that the survivors most likely lead bitter, emotionally damaged lives until the day they died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 We're supposed to believe that Kate and Sawyer didn't hook back up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 So they answered some questions on a DVD Extra, we didn't have enough time for that on the television show, but there was enough time because we had to sit through a whole season of those flash sideways nonsense? With Jack's imaginary son and fugitive Kate and cop Sawyer? Go fuck yourself. As for the argument "this was a character driven show"........ No it wasn't. The show's foundation was built on mystery since the first episode with Smokey killing the pilot and Charlie asking "Where are we?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Is it fair to ask why no one ever, oh I don't know, FOUND THEM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Tons of extra people ended up finding them on the island, like the Others, Widmore's crew, etc. If you mean just random planes flying over, the island was "hidden". That's one of the things they at least attempted to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunKL Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Is it fair to ask why no one ever, oh I don't know, FOUND THEM? The island exists slightly out of sync with the rest world and continuously changes location around the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Tons of extra people ended up finding them on the island, like the Others, Widmore's crew, etc. If you mean just random planes flying over, the island was "hidden". That's one of the things they at least attempted to explain. Okay, well that makes sense. But if they crash landed on Themysicra, then why didn't the Amazons find them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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