Flashfan1 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 this movie is going to be SOO good... I can't wait!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Oh my yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 "A Fire Will Rise"? Did they just randomly choose some words for their new tagline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 "A Fire Will Rise"? Did they just randomly choose some words for their new tagline? MINOR SPOILERS Bane says it in the 6 minute prologue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Yeah, "the fire rises" is apparently a very, very important phrase for the film; it's not just a tagline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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James D. Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 On the website where the above posters were displayed, they described Bane's mask as supplying him with a pain-numbing anaesthetic. I don't know about anyone else, but I think that's a brilliant way to get around the venom tube absence, and it works for the realistic Nolanverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 On the website where the above posters were displayed, they described Bane's mask as supplying him with a pain-numbing anaesthetic. I don't know about anyone else, but I think that's a brilliant way to get around the venom tube absence, and it works for the realistic Nolanverse. Pretty much! I'm not going overboard with the viral marketing/opening scene as I did with TDK, but I still reckon that this could be one of the best films of the year, if not CBM film. I stress the word *could* rather than "will", but given Nolan's track record, I doubt we're going to see a Spidey III/X-Men: The Last Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Yeah, "the fire rises" is apparently a very, very important phrase for the film; it's not just a tagline. Ah. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plBAaXimwQE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobob_100 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Am I the only one who still has a problem with Bane's mask? Also I think it's a new batsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plBAaXimwQE God, THIS SO MUCH. Also, with these trailers I'm convinced of the movie's basic adaptation of the Batman story for this particular film. Batman Begins was essentially Year One. Dark Knight was Long Halloween/The Killing Joke. This is Knightfall, straight up. Knightfall/Knightsend to be precise. But the Bruce/Selina scene is another adaptation from Long Halloween. Also, here's why Bruce won't die: Cuz Bale said he'd be up for another film. http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/5/29/christian-bale-is-open-to-making-another-batman-movie.html?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Some major media outlets have speculated that Batman might die, so this could be Bale trying to kill those rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I still think Batman is dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Some scans from a magazine, courtesy of www.geektyrant.com . I haven't seen some of these before. In spoiler tags because they are big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I hope this movie ends on a somber note. I don't know why exactly, I guess it just fits. I've always viewed the story of batman is a tragedy. I know a long time ago on some podcast Mike said he wanted it to end with Bruce realizing he's done much more harm than good for Gotham, that's a neat idea. Batman dying isn't my favorite idea but it could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 What I think is awesome is that we genuinely don't know if Batman will live or die in this movie. BATMAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I have no doubt that Batman will live. I have doubt that Bruce Wayne will live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 To be completely honest, I personally think a somber or bad ending to Rises would be counter-productive to the very idea of Batman. It's been said a lot that TDKR will harken back to Batman Begins. When you consider that film's ending, the threat of escalation was there, but the promise of Batman saving the day was what it ended on. TDK ended more somberly with Batman taking the rap, but it still ended optimistically with Gotham's soul saved by his actions. This movie's going to be called "The Dark Knight Rises", not "The Dark Knight Falls". Were the movie to have Batman's actions ultimately be viewed as a detriment to Gotham City, I would find it ultimately disingenuous not just to the idea of Batman but what the first film predicated the series to be about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I dont think it should be all about coming full circle. The story of Batman is a tragedy and there's no getting around that. I completely disagree that the idea that Batman's actions have become detrimental to Gotham city is unfitting with the idea of Batman. In fact I think it is the idea of Batman, it was even brought up in the Dark Knight by both Bruce and Joker. Honestly, I don't believe an optimistic ending would be suitable to this kind of story. In my mind it would either have to be somber or open-ended for it not to seem forced. To say that he accomplished everything he set out to do, that he cleaned up Gotham and the city is finally as clean and perfect as it was when he was a child wouldn't sit right with me. I mean lets not forget who Batman is, a child who was literally driven insane when he saw his parents murdered in front of him. He spent years studying, learning, and training, but at the same time became obsessed with fear. He bases his new persona around his greatest fear "bats" and starts running around trying to capture and intimidate criminals but obsessing over not murdering them, and he believes that this will make Gotham a better place. There is no realistic scenario in which Bruce's childish vision succeeds. He either dies trying to accomplish this, or grows to old and looks at what he turned Gotham into. (or higher a teenager to continue defending Gotham ) But anyway that's why a happy ending wouldn't work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donomark Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I dont think it should be all about coming full circle. The story of Batman is a tragedy and there's no getting around that. I completely disagree that the idea that Batman's actions have become detrimental to Gotham city is unfitting with the idea of Batman. In fact I think it is the idea of Batman, it was even brought up in the Dark Knight by both Bruce and Joker. Honestly, I don't believe an optimistic ending would be suitable to this kind of story. In my mind it would either have to be somber or open-ended for it not to seem forced. To say that he accomplished everything he set out to do, that he cleaned up Gotham and the city is finally as clean and perfect as it was when he was a child wouldn't sit right with me. I mean lets not forget who Batman is, a child who was literally driven insane when he saw his parents murdered in front of him. He spent years studying, learning, and training, but at the same time became obsessed with fear. He bases his new persona around his greatest fear "bats" and starts running around trying to capture and intimidate criminals but obsessing over not murdering them, and he believes that this will make Gotham a better place. There is no realistic scenario in which Bruce's childish vision succeeds. He either dies trying to accomplish this, or grows to old and looks at what he turned Gotham into. (or higher a teenager to continue defending Gotham ) But anyway that's why a happy ending wouldn't work for me. Ehhh...it's a comic book film, even with the term "realistic" thoughtlessly bandied about towards these recent movies. I mean I admit to having an instant aversion to people calling Batman insane because everything he does is calculated towards making his war on crime a more proficient one. People only really started calling Batman crazy because he became more anti-social after Dark Knight Returns. And that's only brought up mostly because he's slightly less social than Superman. If he's crazy, what does that make Green Arrow? A guy dressed like Robin Hood with an Arrowcar, Arrowplane, Arrow cave and a sidekick with even brighter colors than Robin? In any case I respectfully disagree with you. As dark as the character can get...this is still a BATMAN movie. The character still fights supercriminals and dresses up in a cape. There's nothing realistic about the movies, they're just more believable. There's a core fantastic relm which Nolan always goes back to because he recognizes the audience he's making movies for, at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Okay I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Oh and sorry about how poorly written that last post was, I wrote it after a long day and I wan't in the mood to write clear sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 According to AMC, it's 2 hours 45 minutes long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Boy, that's a little tough. TDK was too long already and this is a full 13 minutes longer? If Nolan says it needs it and it's epic enough ok, but that run-time is tough. It's not going to affect the box-office, Titanic and Avatar were both longer, but it's tough for an action-orientated film to sprawl like that without a decrease in quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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