Stavros Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 Comics companies do seem to have a problem with marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 See what I've said before re: "When Archie Comics is a more forward thinking and creatively dynamic company that yours, you have a problem." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I get the idea of not wanting to have the main heroes get married (their stories are supposed to be eternal, after all), but Batwoman—being a B- or C-list character—doesn't need to be eternal, and can/should grow and change. Blackman and Williams should have been able to do whatever the hell they wanted with her story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I don't get why they nixed the wedding either. As for the Nightwing news, EH at least they aren't killing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 They said it's nothing to do with orientation, so that just means it's a no marriages period thing. Which is pretty idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 They said it's nothing to do with orientation, so that just means it's a no marriages period thing. Which is pretty idiotic. It makes sense if they want to appeal to the younger (pre-married) demographic and don't want to have their characters get married so soon after "starting from square one," as it were. But applying that rule universally, even to Batwoman, doesn't really make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 It's pretty shitty, but looking at the character and what i know of her, it doesn't seem right anyway. She's like a female Daredevil. Happiness would ruin her. And there's no such thing as an unhappy marriage in comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Along those lines, let her get married then try to balance "work" with married life. There's a story there that hans't been really tapped into -- ever -- in comics, and it would be great to see it with an all-female couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well, it has been tapped into in Spider-Man for about thirty years, but Marvel didn't let that stop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 You know, there are times I find myself wondering if Dan Didio and Brian Michael Bendis secretly wanted to run off and get married but their families broke them apart and they decided to both seek revenge on marriage in comics as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I think that was Quesada and JMS' fault. But I'm with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davedevil Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 So, DC wants you to draw Harley committing suicide, naked, for them. http://www.dccomics.com/node/305151 Do I even want to support their Harley book at this point? I mean, Conner and Palmiotti are writing it, and they have a respect for their characters but it seems DC doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 ....So how would Kate and Maggie being married affect the shared universe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Because it would mean no lesbian orgies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I think that was Quesada and JMS' fault. But I'm with you. Meant Quesada instead of Bendis. My bad. Yeah, Didio is great at winning a crowd at cons. He needs to get off Twitter because his response about books needing to be exciting and important to a shared universe just sounds idiotic. Everytime I start to rethink my decision to quit monthly comics, someone comes along and justifies it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 So, just to follow up yesterday's brilliance, here's DC's new talent search requirements for artists: For a book in November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 Because who gives a shit about visual storytelling and sequentials, right? Fuck. The two month lead thing doesn't surprise me. After all, they launched 52 number one issues with new creative teams with a two month lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2013 Report Share Posted September 6, 2013 I wouldn't read it anyway if Palmiotti is writing, but this stinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Man with a Box Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 Has there been an Earth-2.net the Show episode about all the DC chaos or one done by another E2 Podcast? I for some reason find myself fascinated by this train wreck which seems to be going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 No, but that would make for a good Reddick & Sims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 No, but that would make for a good Reddick & Sims. Reddick and Sims: Murder on the DCnU Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 And then it just got even better.At the DC Nation panel at the Baltimore Comic-Con, DC Co-publisher Dan DiDio came out going off script, and it was not to comment on who should play Captain Marvel. He addressed the Batwoman controversy, saying he had been offline when it happened but was now up to speed and continuing, on how DC had been committed to making one of their major characters gay from when they announced Batwoman, and reiterating how they had stood by the character in spite of opposition. But he went on to say that Heroes shouldnt have happy personal lives. They are committed to being that person and committed to defending others at the sacrifice of their own personal interests. Thats very important and something we reinforced, he continued. People in the Bat family their personal lives basically suck. Dick Grayson, rest in peaceoops shouldnt have said that,Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake, Barbara Gordon and Kathy Kane. Its wonderful that they try to establish personal lives, but its equally important that they set them aside. That is our mandate, that is our edict and that is our stand. He stands behind their gay characters 100%, he added, Name one other publisher out there who stands behind their gay characters the way we do. We put her in the book the company was named after, and the series will continue better than ever with new writer Mark Andreyko. DiDio said Andreykoan openly gay writer who is known for an acclaimed run Manhunter and the more recent The Ferryman at Image will start with issue #25. No word on the artist yet. After making this statement, DiDio left the panel and sat in the audience a few seats from were this is being typed. Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 I have to wonder if they let Williams break the word just to get a controversy going. Because if that was the rational opinion from the get-go, it wouldn't be much of a story, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 The "hero sacrifices a personal life in order to be a hero" thing is a specific archetypal attribute of some heroes; it shouldn't be applied universally, even if only in the Bat family. In the real world, we have the equivalent of superheroes (firemen, cops in dangerous areas, etc) and they can still have happy-if-perhaps-stressed lives at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 7, 2013 Report Share Posted September 7, 2013 So even though she's a Queen at his side, Aquaman is not married to Mera.What the fuck is wrong with DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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