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You know, I've been a little too ambitious, I would have no clue where to start now. Got any suggestions?
I'm leaning toward the TPBs that lead to the Civil War, just because that has got me so intrigued. But with X-men being on my mind right now, due to the movie and the fact that I just read Astonishing X-men Hardcover volume 1 like 4 times, I'm also thinking about leaning in that direction.
Read House of M and New Avengers: Illuminati. Those two will help you understand Civil War that much more... though, reading every issue of New Avengers (19 at the moment) would be the best introduction. The current Executive Director of SHIELD, Maria Hill, seems to have it in for the Avengers, specifically Captain America. If you know that going in, the tension between Cap and Hill will mean so much more in CW#1. As will Cap's reaction.
So you suggest I should read the crash course/essentials to the build to the civil war.
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You know, I've been a little too ambitious, I would have no clue where to start now. Got any suggestions?
I'm leaning toward the TPBs that lead to the Civil War, just because that has got me so intrigued. But with X-men being on my mind right now, due to the movie and the fact that I just read Astonishing X-men Hardcover volume 1 like 4 times, I'm also thinking about leaning in that direction.
A couple other questions, with the Avengers Dissassembled books, there are a couple side books that involve the Dissassembled storyline with Cap America and Iron-Man, are these integral to the Civil War story or no?
And another question, have you read the Spider-man: The Evil That Men Do, I bough the first 3 issues and then Kevin Smith LAGGED with the last 3 and I never heard about it untill now with them releasing a hardcover, anyways what's your opinions on it?
No doubt, you've been awesome Master Yoda with the help and the info. I know I've been a pain in the ass...but I promise my next question won't ask you to order them for me.
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Ok Strange that none of the quote stuff is working.
After a brief hiatus, Joss Whedon and John Cassaday have returned to Astonishing X-Men. So far issues #13 and 14 have been released, and #15 will go on sale 21 June.Have you read his the new ones? If you have have, without giving spoilers, are they any good? How do they compare to the first run?
I'm not hugely into the X-Men, but Grant Morrison's run was really good. He wrote X-Men (then called New X-Men) from #114 to #154. The storylines breakdown as follows:- E Is For Extinction: 114–117, New X-Men 2001 Annual
- Imperial: 118–126
- New Worlds: 127–133
- Riot at Xavier's: 134–138
- Murder at The Mansion: 139–141
- Assault on Weapon Plus: 142–145
- Planet X: 146–150
- Here Comes Tomorrow: 151–154
If you're into Wolverine grab:
- Weapon X by Barry Windsor-Smith. This is the story of how Logan received his metal bones.
- Origin by Paul Jenkins and Andy Kubert. Finally, Logan's true origin is told. It leaves some plot threads loose, but that was done intentionally for a sequel.
Yeah, I was thinking about getting into Morrison's run of the New X-men. I head lots of good stuff about it. I know you're not hugely into X-men, but if somebody else can tell me something (good, bad, worth a look, don't waste your time, etc) about the Ultimate run or the new Uncanny books (without spoilers), I'd be pleased.
If the Weapon X book is the original one, than I've read it. I was so hyped up at the time because I heard so much great stuff about it, that I found it kind of a letdown. The Origin story I have also read (online actually, a few years ago, Marvel had a bunch of full comics online so I just sat down and read them). I tend to dislike a TPB if I read it in one sitting (the whole TPB at once), but if I read it in couple sittings (a couple issues a sitting anywhere from 1-3) and take my time to recognize how awesome of a job they're doing, I tend to enjoy it a lot more. Also it's harder, for me at least, to enjoy comics when reading online.
Ultimate Spider-Man is always good, but it does have its ups and downs. But I recommend:- Vol. 11: Carnage: collects 60-65
- Vol. 13: Hobgoblin: collects 72-78
I LOVE Ultimate Spiderman, and I know it's always good. Just couldn't keep up with it. Does Bendis still write it? Thanks for those suggestions...I'll check those out.
Just wanted to mention I have a few oldschool Spider-Man TPB's including Death of Kraven(one of my favorite books ever), The Death of Gwen Stacy, and the Sins of the Father. I don't know why I wanted to mention that just wanted to do it.
Mark Millar's 12-issue run on Marvel Knights Spider-Man is pretty good.- Down Among the Dead Men: 1-4
- Venomous: 5-8
- The Last Stand: 9-12
I had no idea about this. Was the Marvel Knights Spider-man line continued after Millar left or did they discontinue it?
And though a lot of his Spider-Man work is very controversial, look for any Spider-Man story written by J. Michael Straczynski. Specifically:- Vol. 1: Coming Home: collects Amazing Spider-Man 30-35
- Vol. 2: Revelations: collects Amazing Spider-Man 36-39
- Vol. 8: Sins Past: collects Amazing Spider-Man 509-514
(It should be noted that Marvel rebooted Amazing Spider-Man a few years ago with a new numbering system, hence the low numbers on volumes one and two. They then, however, went back to the old numbering system... hence the higher numbers on volume eight.)
I knew about them going to a new numbering system, had no idea they went back to the old one though. I actually read a couple Staczynski books at Barnes once, had a villian name Ezekiel. I'm pretty sure it was Vols 1 + 2 that I read. It was a while ago but still I read them, and thought they were very good. How was his run controversial though.
Frank Miller worked on the following Daredevil books:- The Man Without Fear: collects Daredevil: The Man Without Fear #1-5
- Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller, vol. 1: collects Daredevil 158-161, 163-167
- Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller, vol. 2: collects Daredevil 168-182
- Daredevil Visionaries: Frank Miller, vol. 3: collects Daredevil 183-191
Oh I know Frank Miller is famous for his Daredevil run. Again I'm not a fan of the character, so I don't know if I would check these out.
The Brian Michael Bendis / Alex Maleev run, which is a must-read, is as follows:(Before that, however... much like Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil was rebooted about seven years ago. Kevin Smith's book, Guardian Devil, was the first in that line. So the following TPBs collect the new / current run and not the old Silver Age / Stan Lee books, as the numbering could mislead you to believe.)
- Daredevil, vol. 4: Underboss: collects Daredevil 26-31
- Daredevil, vol. 5: Out: collects Daredevil 32-37
- Daredevil, vol. 6: Low Life: collects Daredevil 41-45
- Daredevil, vol. 7: Hardcore: collects Daredevil 46-50
- Daredevil, vol. 9: The King of Hell's Kitchen: collects Daredevil 56-60
- Daredevil, vol. 10: The Widow: collects Daredevil 61-65
- Daredevil, vol. 11: Golden Age: collects Daredevil 66-70
- Daredevil, vol. 12: Decalogue: collects Daredevil 71-75
- Daredevil, vol. 13: The Murdock Papers: collects Daredevil 76-81
After Bendis and Maleev left the title, Ed Brubaker and Michael Lark took over (with issue #82), and it's just as good (if not better) than the Bendis / Maleev run! Issue #85 went on sale this week, 24 May.
I had no idea Bendis went to work on Daredevil. He was awesome on Ultimate Spiderman. So I may have to check this out, even though I'm not a fan of the character. I'd like to hear more about this.
If you're not going to read the quoted text (below), then know this: there isn't one story or TPB which leads into Civil War; it has been building for years. The most important TPBs are:- Avengers: Disassembled
- The New Avengers: Breakout
- Secret War (Not to be confused with Secret Wars from 1984! Secret War was released between 2003 and 2004, and collected in one volume earlier this year.)
- Wolverine: Enemy of the State, vols. 1 & 2
- House of M
- New Avengers: Illuminati (not a TPB; just a single issue)
I didn't read the long Spoilerific quote. But IF I were to get these, should I be getting them in any specific order or anything. Is it worth getting? Are they of varying degrees of goodness? Just some more info on these is all. The House of M, doesn't that span across like 5 books.
The Ultimates are not for everyone. They're basically a hardcore version of The Avengers, but it is a well-written and beautifully illustrated book. Give it another try.One of my friends loves the Ultimates, which is why I considered giving it another shot. For me I'm just not a huge fan of the Cap (Captain USA) but I can stand him (especially when he's yelling "FINAL JUSTICE!!!" in MVC 2).
Other recommendations:- Ultimate Fantastic Four, vol. 1: The Fantastic
- Ultimate Fantastic Four, vol. 5: Crossover
- Marvel Zombies
- Alias, vol. 1
- Captain America: Winter Soldier, vols. 1 & 2
Again not a fan of the Cap so I doubt I'd ever get books just about him. Fantastic Four never seemed like the strongest written characters, so I don't know about them. They always seemed to get the short end of a stick as far as character development and writing go. Know nothing about Alias or Marvel Zombies (but with the pictures in my head, Marvel Zombies sounds HELL-Arious). I'm also probably more willing to give the Ultimates and Daredevil a chance over these books.
- Any of the current Marvel / MAX Punisher TPBs. In fact, here's me quoting myself again:Marvel now publishes The Punisher under their mature imprint, MAX, which allows Garth Ennis to write whatever he wants in terms of adult themes: violence, language and sex. Sure, those elements don't always equate into better storytelling, but, with his shackles removed, Ennis is writing the best Punisher stories ever.An interesting change that Ennis insisted upon is the aging of Castle. Starting with the first issue of the new series, Frank looks his age: mid- to late 50s.
So far 33 issues have been released:
In The Beginning (1-6): The CIA seeks to enlist Castle, and they've hired his former associate, Microchip, to help convince Frank to join them. Castle's answer: "Fuck you."
- Sets the tone for the entire series. The last page is nasty!
Kitchen Irish (7-12): After an IRA-like bomb destroys a local diner, Frank finds himself between two warring mobs.
Mother Russia (13-18): Nick Fury sends Frank into Russia to rescue a little girl who holds the key to a retrovirus. To distract the Russian army, Castle launches a nuclear missile.
Up Is Down and Black is White (19-24): One mobster has had enough of Castle's shit, and decides to call the big man out... by digging up his wife and kids and pissing on their corpses... on TV.
The Slavers (25-30): Frank uncovers a human trafficking ring.
- There's a scene in either issue 28 or 29 (I can't recall which) that is the most brutal moment ever. It's not ultra-gory or anything like that; it's just one of the few times we've ever seen Castle get truly violent with a woman.
Barracuda (31-36): While looking into a drug deal / murder, Frank uncovers a huge white-collar conspiracy, and is pitted against his toughest foe yet: The Barracuda!
There have also been several one-shots and minis:
Born: Frank's third and final tour in 'Nam is finally chronicled. The ending sets up how and why he became The Punisher, and, despite his age, can still operate today.
The Cell: This retcons his origin just a bit, but, basically, Castle gets himself sent to jail to murder the men responsible for the deaths of his family.
The End: Nuclear war has ravaged the world, but that won't stop The Punisher from delivering his brand of justice.
Punisher never really intrigued me. So I don't know if I'd ever run into there. I get enough my badass man on a mission through James Bond and Jack Bauer.
Hope this helped. If you need more recommendations or info, just ask.Helped A TON! Again as you can tell, I'm very partial to Spider-man and X-men/X-Verse books but am open to Daredevil (especially with Bendis writing!), Avengers/Ultimates, and Hulk. I'm pretty close minded to much anything else. Though if Fantastic 4 got something good rolling, you never know.
They started releasing an Age of Apocalypse collection. How about some info on that? I think I tried to read part of it a while ago, but it was just way too confusing. But I can't remember it was so long ago.
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I basically haven't read comics in ages.
Hey guys, I just read Astonishing X-men 12 book series by Joss Whedon. It was fantastic. I was wondering if anybody has got any other reccommendations (old or new) for me to take a look at. Any specific Ultimate X-men arcs that I should check out (I've read teh first couple, through the Weapon X)?
I already own:
X-men Children of the Atom
Astonishing X-men by Joss Whedon
X-men: God Loves, Man Kills (I think that was the title)
I heard that the New X-men series was pretty awesome. I tried to read a bit of X-treme X-men but couldn't get into it. Don't know anything about any of the new Uncanny books.
I also love Ultimate Spiderman but haven't kept up, since Venom first got involved in the book. Did it get any better, are there any specific TPBs that I should take a look at? Also any mainline Spiderman books that I should check out?
I own that one DareDevil TPB wriiten by Kevin Smith which was fucking amazing I might add. But I'm not a fan of the character as a whole.
Also one question what is this House of M stuff that I hear? Is it worth checking out? Also I am QUITE intrigued by the Civil War storyline, but it's just been released in the regular comics, is there any TPB's that precede that, and are they worth or necessary to get.
I'm basically looking for Marvel reccommendations (But I am really partial to the X-men franchise and Spider-man franchises, but willing to check out anything) ...I've heard stuff about the Ultimates but when I tried to read it, I had a hard time getting into it. I may give it another try at the Barnes & Noble.
I know I'm being broad but any help would be good.
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Just in case anybody was interested, these are free comics posted on the web. I didn't think any of them were any good and it's a shame because I am a huge fan of the series, but anyways if anybody else wanted to check them out.
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What about the rest of the stuff you didn't mention, like the Secret War, Wolvie's books, and House of M...
What I'm looking at picking up right now is:
Avengers: Dissassembled - 10
New Avengers Breakout - 10
And One (or two) of the following:
Secret War - 20
House of M - 15
New X-men Vols 1 + 2 - 20
Marvel Knights Spider-man Millars 12 issue run Run - 20
Wolverine Enemy of the State Vol 1 - 15
(Leaning toward New X-men & something)
On the outside of this I've got, which I'm not really considering right now are:
More New Avengers
The second Wolverine book
Bendis' Daredevil run
The Rest of New X-men
Ultimate Spiderman
The Ultimates
And two Batman stories that I'm interested in (Hush, Long Halloween/Dark Victory)
I'm moving away from the Secret War because all they have is the Hardcover. I'm actually moving closer to the Marvel Knights or New X-men books, just that would put me in the 40 buck range and with 50 buck purchase I would get free shipping. If I got one 20 dollar book and a cheaper book (10-15), it would get me the free shipping. It makes me want to lead towards New X-men and House of M, but then I wouldn't be reading the build in the way you suggested, which I quoted above.
The other New Avengers books, I'll wait until the TPB's come out, I'm pretty patient when it comes to this sort of thing.
So Yoda what you think?
A couple other questions:
There are a few Dissassembled books focusing on individual members of the Avengers, my guess is after they've been broken up, are important or no?
Have you read the Kevin Smith Spider-man/Blackcat story: The Evil That Men Do, I have the first 3 but then Smith LAGGED for so long and I fell out of comics that I forgot to pick them up. If you read them, can you tell me if it's any good?
Also one last question, the Daredevil line...who was writing between Smith's run and Bendis' run? Is it worth getting or checking out? In your recs you didn't really mention it? I mean really I love Bendis and it seems like he's practically taken over all of Marvel.