Garfield

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  1. The TV series introduced the idea of alternate timelines, which cleaned things up a bit. T3 actually made a little more sense than T2 as far as the timeline went anyway (if Skynet was destroyed, how did Arnold get sent back in time to destroy it?). T4 was... well, it was just whatever.

    The problem is, they created this problem, and they didn't have to. You can't tell me that it wouldn't be compelling if they just did a movie or even television saga based on it, rather than constantly changing the timeline. This makes it far more confusing and difficult to follow than need be.

  2. Here's my problem with the episode. How did Bender get brainwashed? I know it's not like the DCAU, but without his general douchebag jokes, or Zoidberg's hilarious pathos, there's not much the show has to hang its hat on.

    Good point. You can tie that off, with the emotional link he had with Leela years ago about Nibbler, and how that can still be dormant in his system, and something so powerful caused him to actually feel what Leela feels again.

    The more I think about this series, the more I think my standards are too high, and for the rest of the series, I'm just going to judge it on it's own, and not as part of the classic show.

    That way, that makes this the 3rd best episode of the series for me. The first two are the best so far.

    I try to just turn my higher brain off for it, and let the the continuity they give it be a bonus. This show is a screwball comedy at heart, and I'm as guilty as you are for holding it to a higher standard than necessary.

    For crying out loud, there was an episode where Bender burned down Zoiberg's UNDERWATER house with a lit cigar. If that doesn't show how little it takes itself seriously, nothing does.

  3. Making Arsenal a heroin addict in the aftermath, though, is bovine feces. It's a significant part of the character's history that he beat his drug addiction. There's no reason to go back, from a storytelling perspective.

    What would work better: Harper acquires some heroin because he thinks he's lost everything and it does not matter any more. The issue ends on a cliffhanger with him in tears and about to use it. The opening of the next issue sees him destroying the drug. "I beat you once. I'm not going back."

    But regardless of what might be logical, that comes from the perspective of someone who's never known a heroin addict.

    There has never, in my experience, been a person who has beat heroin have a bunch of heroin in front of them only to flush it. Doesn't happen.

    I'm inclined to agree. My father was an alcoholic for a decade, and he never even looks in the direction of it, because he knows that if he did, he'd never stop. Besides Arsenal's never been a flawless character.

  4. Got woken up at 730 this morning after getting to bed around 3. It's a friend of mine who needs help citing a paper. He offers me 50 bucks but I instead do it for him paying for my comics and breakfast.

    Everyone has his price.

  5. Suavestar says it was alright, but nothing special in 3...2...1...

    Another week, another time that I say that phrase:

    I thought the episode was not bad, one of the better ones this season. They actually did a nice little call back to Amy being the Professors grad student, which I don't think has been mentioned since the first time she was introduced Amy in the episode they went to the moon in series 1.

    The main problem I had with the episode is, and this is becoming a theme with Futurama since the movies, the jokes just aren't that funny, or they just fall flat.

    The villain was interesting, but the episode as a whole, although one of the better ones this series, was still very average.

    Here's my problem with the episode. How did Bender get brainwashed? I know it's not like the DCAU, but without his general douchebag jokes, or Zoidberg's hilarious pathos, there's not much the show has to hang its hat on.

  6. Tons of extra people ended up finding them on the island, like the Others, Widmore's crew, etc.

    If you mean just random planes flying over, the island was "hidden". That's one of the things they at least attempted to explain.

    Okay, well that makes sense. But if they crash landed on Themysicra, then why didn't the Amazons find them? :lol:

  7. Frankly I tend to think anyone who say it is in and that it does fit is just being a little too obsessed with fantasy-booking the show or they're just straight up flaming rational people such as myself. ^_^

    I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't insult.

    Sorry, the smiley face was meant to soften that statement, as though I'm being a little smug in my own opinion. Didn't mean anything by it.

    I understand. I really don't want this to turn into a flame war.

    I still think I'm right though. :P

  8. Frankly I tend to think anyone who say it is in and that it does fit is just being a little too obsessed with fantasy-booking the show or they're just straight up flaming rational people such as myself. ^_^

    I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't insult.

  9. Jut as a reminder, we already had a thread for this subject. It was right here.

    Back on the actual topic, yeah, the Deus ex Machinca of Cyborg's regeneration always got on my nerves plus his explanation that it was a one time event. Titans East is probably my least favorite of the big season enders.

    It was definitely weaker than The End, that's for sure. I get that Cyborg was able to access Brother Blood's mind at the end, but they could have done it better.

  10. Even if you ignore the technology, there's just too many things that throw the DCAU off entirely.

    So if Starfire was already on Earth years before Superman, why did Lois Lane seem somewhat unbelieving when Superman told her of his alien origins?

    If the Titans flew through space and went all the way to Tamaran and back at least once, why was it such a big deal when Superman was finally able to retrofit his ship to go into space?

    If Robin was an insane-level martial artist, capable of defeating multiple superhumans in hand-to-hand combat, why did he get beaten so easily (repeatedly) in BTAS?

    And like Stavros said, WHY WAS THERE NO CROSSOVER?

    I mean, in EVERY DCAU show, there are very, very clear references to the DCAU as a whole. Right from the beginning of Superman, you get a reference to Batman ("that nut in Gotham City") as well as multiple crossovers with TNBA. Batman Beyond is basically BTAS 40 years in the future, complete with countless direct continuations of storylines from the DCAU.

    Justice League brought in dozens of stories and characters from BTAS, STAS, and Batman Beyond.

    Static Shock had a bunch of crossovers and direct references.

    So if Teen Titans was intended to be in the DCAU, why are there no firm, direct ties to continuity?

    There was no crossover because DC wouldn't let them, plain and simple. Which is why the writers use WIcked Scary, which was in JLU, as an inderect crossover.

    If you don't recognize its conitinuity, it's because you just don't want it that way.

  11. What about the fact that Dick Grayson is a Kung Fu master with a cape ten times stronger than steel in Teen Titans, but goes back to being the "aw, shucks" sidekick in BTAS?

    What about when he's not the "aw, shucks" sidekick when he's Nightwing? Grayson's always drifted between bing the sidekick and his own man, and they do take very different forms. That doesn't make Teen Titans not in continuity. Neither does his outfit, which we get no details of from Batman. Again, you can't compare the technology difference between Teen Titans as a judgement of its continuity. If you do that, then you also have to judge Gotham Nights, Superman, and Static Shock, because they are all way ahead of their level.

  12. Hmm, I guess I should have articulated what I was saying a little bit better. My point was that since few people were surprised to see Hawkgirl show up in Secret Origins in the Justice League, there's no telling how much exposure to aliens the Earth has seen.

    I fully accept Teen Titans as in continuity, since the only real obstical to that making sense is the disparity between it and the way Gotham looks in BTAS. However, BTAS has a great disparity with Gotham Nights, and every other DCAU series. I also think that viewing BTAS and Gotham Nights with Teen Titans being in the background gives added character to the Dick Grayson Robin and later Nightwing. His experience with Slade gives him reason to have doubts with Batman's difficulty in avoiding the lines he's always in danger of crossing.

    Ultimately, it doesn't really take away from the DCAU to accept Teen Titans in its continuity. Conversely, it adds layers to the universe as a whole when taken in.