Missy Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Some time back I was reading an article online (which I can't find now) questioning whether or not Rob Liefeld stole Cable from an old issue of Marvel's Star Wars series. Though the article didn't provide an image, they did state which issue the character could be found in. After a very quick search on eBay (which also didn't showcase an image), I found said issue (#16) and purchased it. Quite frankly, I was skeptical and chalked it up to the rampant hatred of Liefeld. However, when the issue arrived, I was shocked to finally see the cover and had to wonder if it was a coincidence or not. So, presented below, is a scan of the cover and a drawing of Cable by Liefeld himself. The evidence: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Naah. That character also looks like Nick Fury. Which is a shame, cause I hate Rob Liefeld, and would gladly take the piss. This said, I note the Star Wars artist does have difficulty drawing feet, which doesn't remind me of any famous artist, honest, guv. And Cable was a Terminator 2 rip-off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 And Cable was a Terminator 2 rip-off anyway. How do you figure? Cable first appeared in New Mutants #86 (cameo) and #87 (full), which were published in February and March of 1990. Meaning, they would have been drawn in mid to late 1989. Terminator 2 was released in July of 1991. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 And Cable was a Terminator 2 rip-off anyway. How do you figure? Cable first appeared in New Mutants #86 (cameo) and #87 (full), which were published in February and March of 1990. Meaning, they would have been drawn in mid to late 1989. Terminator 2 was released in July of 1991. Terminator 1 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 The idea maybe (a militant coming from a dark future), but certainly not the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 The idea maybe (a militant coming from a dark future), but certainly not the look. Half human, half robot? With lots of guns? Who can teleport? With one eye, which glows? That doesn't echo the look of Terminator? And I know that Cable isn't a cyborg, but that wasn't made clear for quite a while in the comics, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 He's all human (well, mutant). The arm is just a futuristic prosthetic. Is someone with a modern prosthetic half human? The guns and eye I'll give you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Marv Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Star Wars #16 THE HUNTERÂ Published: October 1978 Story: ARCHIE GOODWIN Art: WALTER SIMONSON and BOB WIACEK Captain Valance, a bounty hunter with a violent hatred of droids, destroy an outworld medical base where a dying Kihotay utters clues about his mission with Han and the Sprites. Valance seeks out and finds Jax and Amaiza and learns about Aduba-3. Mistaking Jimm for Luke in images of him with his droids, Valance leaves the Aduba-3 when he discovers his error. Souce: TheForce.net Based on that description and the picture, I'd say no. In all honesty, this Hunter character seems like just a ripoff of The Punisher to me, just with droids rather than organized crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 He's all human (well, mutant). The arm is just a futuristic prosthetic. Is someone with a modern prosthetic half human? The guns and eye I'll give you. Wasn't his arm and eye a result of the virus, he was infected with as a kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 He's all human (well, mutant). The arm is just a futuristic prosthetic. Is someone with a modern prosthetic half human? The guns and eye I'll give you. Wasn't his arm and eye a result of the virus, he was infected with as a kid? That was added later by Scott Lobdell. And in answer to Yoda, I always thought it was originally intended as hinting that he had more robotic parts that we couldn't see. It was never explained as being prosthetic, it was always just there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Truthfully, I'm basing everything I've said about him (RE: human despite prosthetic) on his complete origin, not Liefeld's initial design or hints that were never fleshed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat DJ Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 And in answer to Yoda, I always thought it was originally intended as hinting that he had more robotic parts that we couldn't see. It was never explained as being prosthetic, it was always just there. This may help you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I love that site, and I'm glad to see it's running again. (It's been down on and off for the last two weeks or so.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 And in answer to Yoda, I always thought it was originally intended as hinting that he had more robotic parts that we couldn't see. It was never explained as being prosthetic, it was always just there. This may help you out Good site - although I'm aware of Cable's history already. What I'm saying is how Liefeld originally intended it, not what Lobdell etc added to it later, if that makes sense. Cable ended up being a far better character than he should have been, mainly thanks to Scott Lobdell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenball Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 I don't think Liefeld ripped him off. Besides ripping shit off happens all the time in comics (Generation X/Gen 13, Prowler/Spawn/Nightwatch, etc.). I actually like Liefeldd when he is drawing Cable and the X-Force characters. he really has a place in his heart ofr those characters. I agree that Liefeld has some serious deficiencies as a storyteller (and in drawing feet), but I thought that he's been a better pin-up guy (like J. Scott Campbell) than stroyteller (ala John Romita Jr.). Cable #75 is I think Liefeld's best work on the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 ripping shit off happens all the time in comics (Generation X/Gen 13.... Those two books coming out at nearly the same time was actually a very strange coincidence. Remember, Gen 13 was going to be called Gen X but Marvel's legal team made them change the name for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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