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No, in fact it was a welcome return to form for Corden who was, at the time, wildly overexposed. Of the three comedians that jumped into Who at the height of their careers (Tate, Corden & Kaye) sight-unseen I'd have guessed Corden would do best. His show was one I genuinely enjoyed and I figured he had dramatic potential. Tate on the other hand shocked me, her sketch show was awful but she was a fantastic companion, they took the wise step of having her start out dialled up all the way and then toning it down to reveal a much more sympathetic and human side.
I never ever thought Kaye would be good, and he wasn't. Maybe it was the episode, maybe he could have done better with something else, but of all of them he was the one who precisely met my expectations.
I didn't mean to give the impression that Corden was bad in his episodes. Like Tate before him, he did really well and was a nice surprise. Out of the three comedians I liked his original tv work the best. It was just he got so popular in the Uk with his show that he was suddenly in everything and became over saturated on TV. So I, like most of the public got a bit sick of the sight of him.
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I'm loving your review of Love and Monsters, totally agree. On the actors they're generally good, but since you clearly don't know, FUCK PETER KAY. He's always been awful, just imagine all the bad stuff we brits said against James Corden minus any acting skill and plus milking his mediocre overpriced 'stand-up' for all it's worth. Great show again guys!
It's weird that Doctor Who has had this affiliation with irritating British comedians.
When Catherine Tate was announced as the next companion, I was ready to give up on the show. That's how much I hated her comedy show. Then she actually turned out to be really good. When James Corden was announced I gave him a chance because of how well Donna Noble turned out but Years earlier when I realised Peter Fucking Kay was going to be a monster on the show, I knew he would be awful and he was.
As for the episode its self. It's definitely bad though filled with a great cast (Peter Kay aside) trying there best.
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They already established that 1938 (not "New York, 1938," but just "1938") was near-impossible to land in, then there was a time paradox explosion on top of that. The ramifications of it are vague, but what I inferred is that the time the Williamses returned to was permanently unreachable. That wouldn't mean that the Doctor couldn't go and pick them up a couple decades later or something, when they're middle-aged, but there's a dozen different speculative responses for that. Maybe the fact that the Williamses were part of the same timespace event three times over means that they literally can't be reached by TARDIS. Maybe the entire area of New York over a larger period of time (but not enough to reach the present) is now unreachable. Maybe the Doctor (who has described himself as "a big complicated timespace event") can no longer directly interact with the Williamses because of all their looping timespace craziness focused on the exact same point in timespace.
So, yeah, wibbly wobbly. But it can make sense if you let it.
I like it.
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I just don't understand that whole "You are creating fixed time! I will never be able to see you again!" thing. Even if you accept that at face value, that they have to die in the past because The Doctor read their names on a tombstone, why can't The Doctor visit them and take them on adventures? As long as he brings them back to die before their fixed date of death, it all works out.
Furthermore, I don't accept it at face value. The Doctor and his companions have read plenty of documents and history books, which he then went on to change. So why is this fixed?
It comes off like an overly complicated, yet poorly thought out excuse to make sure the characters never return.
I agree but at some point they have to put a lid on it and call it a day or they could go on forever with the Doctor returning to a point in time to change things.
What ever device they come up with to say he can't go back will always seem a bit flimsy. Keeping it vague by just saying it's fixed, lets the viewer expand on it in there own mind in whatever way they are comfortable with.
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What line was that, Ian?
I think it goes that Dave thought the Doctor said "I can never go back to New York again due to time energy" and yet once River & Eleven set off in the Tardis, the Doctor reappears in New York to seize the afterword. I was under the impression the line was more "I can never go back to New York around the 1930s again due to time energy". I'd have to rewatch to be sure, but I squeezed that viewing between watching Blake's 7 then recording Shake & Blake, so I haven't had time to let everything settle.
I had the same thought but
I'm sure he did say New York of that period not New York as a whole.
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While that was a strong episode, I felt it was a weak companion departure.
I liked there departure. Although as soon as I heard that they were going to leave on this episode, I knew this was the only way they were going to write them out.
There was no way they were going to let them die. Nice that they at least mentioned the period of time when Amelia was waiting in her garden for him.
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Now that (for the third time this series) was a Doctor Who story.
Ha ha which were the other two?
Asylum of the Daleks - Good episode overall. I don't buy the sexism argument, nor mind the divorce angle. Plus Oswyn was aweome/gorgeous. For a Dalek.
Dinosaurs on a Spaceship - Fluff, although really enjoyable, fun fluff.
A Town Called Mercy - Fluff. Not bad, per se. Just fluff.
Power of Three - Whilst I didn't like the last line, I loved the grounded approach from the Ponds POV (+ Brian and Kate). Didn't NEED Steven Berkoff, but then he wasn't the focus.
The Angels Take Manhattan - Just awesome. Although, recording with Dave a few hours ago, he spotted a line of dialogue that undid the ending for him. Still, sod that guy!
I thought every episode so far (not including Angels) had too many problems for me to really just kick back and enjoy.
Asylum - Didn't buy the reason for an asylum or that all the Daleks were working together, after the new ones killed off the bronze ones last time. Or that they were scared of a load of crazy Daleks that weren't going anywhere. New companion worked well with Smith though.
Dinosaurs - was pure fluff but at least enjoyable but forgettable.
Mercy - had nothing we hadn't seen before and felt like we were treading old ground. Worst of all they gave Rory nothing to do.
Power of 3 - Nice set up and character moments but lousy pay off that left me unfulfilled. (didn't know that was Berkoff will have to re-watch)
Angels - Back to form. It zipped along, great dialogue and a fitting end. Nice moment at the very end. What was the line that undid the ending?
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Now that (for the third time this series) was a Doctor Who story.
Ha ha which were the other two?
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Now that (for the first time this series) was a Doctor Who story.
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Not feeling this season yet. I've only had fun with one episode and the others felt under par.Something just doesn't feel doctor who about them. Especially the power of three. The end of the episode and the reason for the cubes felt very rushed.
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I liked Susan. But other than that, I was kind of bored, and:
Did anyone else see the alien robot villain, and think he looked like Kryten from the Wild West episode of Red Dwarf?
The whole thing seemed like Red Dwarf when ever they run into a cyborgs or gelfs.
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There is a strange tendency for films of this genre to take cues from other recent popular film designs. It's part batman, part snake eyes no Robocop. There doesn't seem to be anything fresh looking about it at all.
Granted it's only one photo and it's in no way a finished product. It could be a costume that is only seen for a few seconds or minutes in the final film.
The point is the original was such an iconic look, that this version seems like it needs to up it's game. Hopefully it has more to offer than this.
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Trying to put my finger on what seems off about this episode, I think it's the fact that the episode is very simple and linear. Much like last season's episode 3 in fact (the pirate one). There's no overtly complex pseudo-science and the character moments of the Doctor, Amy & Rory are largely downplayed in favour of the plot. I liked the story, although it was nothing special - so cue the hysteria that this was a bad episode, which seems to be a recurring hallmark at the moment.
Your right, it's not a bad episode.
but there is nothing really memorable about it either, which all three episodes so far have in common. Also Amy had little to do this week and even worse Rory had nothing at all.
Getting a bit concerned about this choice of there not traveling with him all the time, yet he seems to pic them up from now and then for no real reason. Weird. If there isn't a reason for it, I'll be glad to see them go.
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Not a bad episode but nothing we haven't seen before. Hmm...three episodes in and we haven't really had a meaty story yet.
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I'm not liking that at all.
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Well that was just pure fun. A big improvment on cold blood and the hungry earth.
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For those of you watching the internet fairy, please let me know when she lands.
I think it went up right after it aired, actually. I just finished watching it.
Well, that was awesome.
Really interested to see how Oswin will fit into everything down the line; absolutely loved her here.
On the whole I liked it. Good solid start with some nice ideas to build on in the coming episodes. But...
Why did the so called normal Daleks need saving from or in fear of the Insane Asylum Daleks? They weren't going anywhere or doing anything. Were they?
If the Alaska could crash into the asylum planet, then there was a weakness in the shield, thus the insane Daleks could get out.
Ok they could of at some point get out and I know that the Daleks were scared of them, That's why none of them would go down there but they didn't realy show them to be a real force on the episode. Most of them were really beaten up bad. Nothing a whole fleet of Daleks couldn't handle. Oh and I loved the new companion. Worked well with Matt.
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On the whole I liked it. Good solid start with some nice ideas to build on in the coming episodes. But...
Why did the so called normal Daleks need saving from or in fear of the Insane Asylum Daleks? They weren't going anywhere or doing anything. Were they?
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I wouldn't be against this, but probably on top of the regular show. I also had the idea of a "one-offs" series. Either a soundtrack, or a band that only had one album, or a musical project that had a single release (a la a Supergroup).
There was a band called Lodestar that had one album out in 1996.
The album was self titled.
Wish they had done more.
It was good.
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The Doctor's Wife just pips it for me.
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Good point. The episode is terrible but I like the idea of the tenth Doctor actually lighting the olmpic flame for real.
Not that it will happen.
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It's time to re-rank The Doctors
01. Matt Smith
02. Colin Baker (based on three stories)
03. Jon Pertwee
04. Christopher Eccleston
05. David Tennant
06. Tom Baker
07. Peter Davison
08. Patrick Troughton
09. Paul McGann
10. William Hartnell
There's only one more Doctor to go!
I do realize putting Hartnell at the bottom might seem unfair. That's why I hope to truly reevaluate this list in six months.
I'd say that makes me the winner of the Pertwee/Baker Twitter feud.
Here's my current ranking:
01. Colin Baker
02. Matt Smith
03. Sylvester McCoy
04. Tom Baker
05. David Tennant
06. Patrick Troughton
07. Christopher Eccleston
08. Jon Pertwee
09. William Hartnell
10. Peter Davison
11. Paul McGann
01. Matt Smith
02. Patrick Troughton
03. Tom Baker
04. David Tennant
05. Christopher Eccleston
06. Peter Davison
07. Jon Pertwee
08. Sylvester McCoy
09. Colin Baker
10. Paul Mcgann (Only because of his one story, I have never heard any of his audio work. I suspect if he had more stories or ever came back in the further adventures of Doctor 8 he would go way up on my list.)
11. William Hartnell (Although I do like his version of the Doctor, I do find his performance harder to watch than any of the others.)
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I fucking love this podcast. Will I love it as much when they stop talking about Tool? I hope so.
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Didn't think much of the story but as a character piece it was top notch.
Everyone was so much fun. Clara is going to fit in nicely.