MaxPower Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Beat me to it! Wouldn't the active fan base also be passionate about the original iteration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Beat me to it! Wouldn't the active fan base also be passionate about the original iteration? I don't think the original movie exists in fan's minds. If it's not SMG, it doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Sorry, yeah I meant the TV series, should have said so. Which raises an interesting point, I view the movie as a stand alone product, not really related to the TV Show. Is that what the studio is also thinking? The problem with that reasoning is that the TV show created the audience, so like you say, people see it as the only one. I still stand by my, not calling it Buffy, but using the Slayer lore for the basis of the movie. Otherwise it will just feel weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm game for a Buffy reboot. IMO, the mythology of the TV series started going downhill at its halfway point anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 After Warner Bros. announced today that they are moving forward with a Buffy the Vampire Slayer "reboot"—without the involvement of the iconic mastermind behind the TV series, Joss Whedon—I checked in with Joss for his reaction, and here's what he just shared with me via email: Kristin, I'm glad you asked for my thoughts on the announcement of Buffy the cinema film. This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths—just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself. Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, "Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER." Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, "I'll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!" Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more? I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don't love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I'm also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can't wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I'm making a Batman movie. Because there's a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you. Leave me to my pain! Sincerely, Joss Whedon. http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b212644_joss_whedon_reacts_buffy_movie_news_i.html#ixzz164PFux3m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 See, I'd feel more comfortable about this if the screenwriter actually had any credits to her name (she doesn't, I've scoured the internets), and it wasn't being immediately likened to Batman Begins (please let this be not gritty, please?). I'll be interested to see what they do, but it's probably not gonna get my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 To be fair, before the first movie Joss wrote for a couple tv shows. Four episodes of Roseanne didn't exactly make him a household name. It wasn't until he did the screenplay for Toy Story that people started looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm cool with this. I'd rather have a reboot than more of those "Season 8" comics that Joss keeps putting out. Ergh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Some would argue the series ended in 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Some would argue the series ended in 1999. Harsh. Buffy had its best episodes after that point, even if the arcs weren't as stong. I've said it before, screw this on many levels. On the other hand it doesn't make the original series less good and it's not like Joss was going to go back to it, so what the hell, let someone else reimagine it and see how they do. I'll wait for the reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'm far from the biggest fan of this idea. Frankly, Buffy is such a stupid idea, I can't believe it worked once, let alone again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Some would argue the series ended in 1999. Harsh. Buffy had its best episodes after that point I respectfully disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I think it's fair to say that while seasons 4-7 weren't as good as the first three, they were by no means "bad." The overall storylines were sometimes bad, but on an individual in-the-moment basis, those episodes were still very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Some would argue the series ended in 1999. Harsh. Buffy had its best episodes after that point I respectfully disagree. 1999 is the third season, so you're dismissing Hush, The Body, Intervention, The Gift, Once More with Feeling, Normal Again, loads of the best acted, written and directed episodes. Seasons 2 and 3 might have the best overall arcs but you can't deny the quality of those standalone episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Each version was a different generation of fans. The tv show was 5 years after the movie, so it really had nothing to do with it. This new one is 7 or 8 years after the series so it makes sense. Some would argue the series ended in 1999. Harsh. Buffy had its best episodes after that point I respectfully disagree. 1999 is the third season, so you're dismissing Hush, The Body, Intervention, The Gift, Once More with Feeling, Normal Again, loads of the best acted, written and directed episodes. Seasons 2 and 3 might have the best overall arcs but you can't deny the quality of those standalone episodes. I'm not denying they were good eps, I AM disagreeing that they were better than Innocence, Suprise, Becoming, Amends, Graduation, Angel etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 And I'm disagreeing with your disagreeing. The episodes Starvos mentions all have pretty unique premises, and you can actually tell them apart from each other. The episodes you mention all have Angel/Angelus in them, which can be boiled down to a simple formula: angst angst vampires are evil and I'm the Slayer we shouldn't be together oh let's be anyways and this will totally suck. I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 And I'm disagreeing with your disagreeing. The episodes Starvos mentions all have pretty unique premises, and you can actually tell them apart from each other. The episodes you mention all have Angel/Angelus in them, which can be boiled down to a simple formula: angst angst vampires are evil and I'm the Slayer we shouldn't be together oh let's be anyways and this will totally suck. I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. And the post '99 seasons have more Spike. SPIKE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I actually think Spike was a misused character after Season 2, for the most part. He was just used for laughs, and rarely had anything deeper. There was the Buffy romance, but that wasn't really something that needed to happen. I prefer Spike in Season 5 of Angel. He's back to being his normal badass self, while not getting distracted by Buffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I prefer Spike in Season 5 of Angel. He's back to being his normal badass self, while not getting distracted by Buffy. I totally concur with this part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. LOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. LOLOLOLOLOLOL What does that even mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightAngle04 Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. LOLOLOLOLOLOL What does that even mean? It means I'm laughing at the premise that Angel leaving the show was one of the best things to happen to the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yeah, um... might not wanna get into discussions about Buffy (or ANY Whedon project) with NightAngle. He's... how shall I say it... Very opinionated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 I'm not saying they're not good, cause they are, but I also feel that Angel getting a spinoff show and him finally leaving the show except for the occasional cameo was one of the best things to happen to the series, cause it actually allowed for Buffy to get some development. LOLOLOLOLOLOL What does that even mean? It means I'm laughing at the premise that Angel leaving the show was one of the best things to happen to the show. You could just, y'know, say that. With words. I mean, I don't see why you would think that, because I agree with Hanners. Angel leaving did two things: Gave us an AWESOME spinoff, and let Buffy have a real life. She got to be with Riley and Spike, both relationships adding to her character growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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