Donomark

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  1. I'm still in shock over the episode. I knew it was coming, and I had an idea on how it would turn out halfway through. The experience though might be the most heartwrenching moment I've experience while watching Doctor Who. It probably has plotholes, but instances like this don't see me caring about 'em.

    Basically, this is Moffat and the fans by the end of last night.

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  2. "I can't ever take the TARDIS back, the timelines, they're too scrambled." is the line. Now, since the graveyard is in the present day of New York, I figured he just ran across the Island since that's what the Doctor does instead of doing the lazy thing and taking the TARDIS to Central Park.

    It's possible he was lying in that scene because...well...

  3. So, Batman Inc 0 shows two things, first that Morrison is allowed to not give two shits about the DC reboot, as the credits of Inc have "DC proudly presents before the new 52"

    That, and the fact that the second page was a panel-for-panel, line for line recreation of the scene in Batman Year One.

  4. Is it OK if I hate it because it's poorly planned, poorly executed and ill-defined, and has destroyed the stories of most of my favorite characters (Wally, Tim, Booster, etc.) because of a self-created crisis and poor leadership?

    That "destroyed the stories" thing is partially what I'm talking about. No one's "destroyed the stories" of those characters. They still exist, regardless of whatever new story is being told. That's the thing; this isn't exactly a continuation of the previous universe, it's a new universe that pulled a few things from the past. It definitely would have been a lot better if they'd done a hard reboot, but then they'd risk losing all the fans. Can you imagine if they went back to a point where Dick was Robin and Damian and Tim literally didn't exist yet? It'd be amazing for the sake of the universe and the story, but 99% of fans would cry foul. I'd be the 1% excited for an entirely new universe, but then I'm also a poor college student who can't afford to keep DC in business by myself.

    Yes! They should have done that! It would've been honest and not at all half-assed. Why keep 3.5/5 of the Robins when you can start off a true beginning with just one? The in media res style storytelling does.Not.WORK. because you're advertising to "new readers" something that had already occured and for the most part they'll never see.

    Post Crisis wasn't at all perfect, but they at least put forth effort in establishing their new universe. We got Man of Steel. We got Year One. We got Perez's Wonder Woman. We got Green Lanter: Emerald Dawn. We got Green Arrow: Longbow Hunters. We had stories establishing the differences in a focused, thought out and concentrated way. Jason Todd's Post-Crisis origin story was done in a three-issue flashback, not in one slap-shod issue. Most other characters like the Flash didn't change as much, so Wally could be the Flash without heavy retcons that took out his time as Kid Flash or a Teen Titan. Compare all of that to this nonsense "wait and see" logic where 12 months later they can't even keep their own new 52 in-house logic consistent. Why do the readers have to put up with that, especially as most of them were reading DC pre-new 52 to begin with?

  5. The only way this makes sense is if Joker knows Bruce Wayne is Batman, knows Leslie Thompkins, and is telapathic. HTF could he guess that Bruce would adopt Jason and make him Robin? What kind of sense does that make?

    It's been established in stories pre-New 52 that Leslie is known to be an ally of Batman by the locals, since he's been seen aiding her and her patients repeatedly. It's not illogical to assume that dropping Jason off at the clinic might be a decent way to get him next to Batman. Also, Jason looks a hell of a lot like Dick did. Really, all the Robins and Bruce look eerily alike. It's been implied in the past that Bruce picks his Robins based on the idea that they remind him of himself at a young age, and he wants to help them.

    Moreover, the Joker has a decades-long history of figuring out Batman's psyche. Just as Batman can often predict Joker's plots, Joker can in turn deliver some surprising insights into Batman's mind. He understands Batman's psychological need to continue his mission and use the methods he does, just as Joker has his own drive to incite chaos through his own personal methods. It's not illogical to assume that Joker caught on to the fact that Batman keeps the sidekicks around for personal reasons (something Joker's pointed out in pre-reboot stories), and that led him to craft a situation where Jason would become the next Robin.

    Scott Snyder's said that his next Joker story will end up involving the entire Bat-family in some way, so perhaps this is actually leading into that.

    That's still a large-ass, roundabout way to get those events in motion. None of that's implied in the two or three pages of that story, and even if it were it stinks of "Wouldn't this be cool if this happened" with the Joker. I just know that the only reason for it given when asked why will be "Because the Joker's CRAZY o'course! HERP DERP" which by this point is a lazy as hell reason.

  6. Just read the issue. Clarify: why is that a bad idea?

    It certainly helps the idea that Jason is the dark mirror of Dick. Dick was raised by good parents and brought in by Batman; Jason was raised by horrible parents and tossed in Batman's lap by the Joker.

    It's a bad idea because it smacks of crazy change for change's sake.

    The only way this makes sense is if Joker knows Bruce Wayne is Batman, knows Leslie Thompkins, and is telapathic. HTF could he guess that Bruce would adopt Jason and make him Robin? What kind of sense does that make?

  7. Red Hood and the Outlaws #0

    Apparently mostly everything with Jason's origin is the same...excpet that the Joker set the plans in motion for him to become Robin, basically creating him just to kill him

    I've fucking had it with Scott Lobell.

  8. Let's put it this way. #0 shows Dick being a teenager while still being in the Flying Graysons (Jason looks maybe a year younger, Tim is 11-12). So let's say Dick's parents died and he became Robin in the first year of Batman's career; that means he could be fourteen when he becomes Robin, thus being 20 or 21 now (which fits, since Barbara is supposed to be 21-22 now, and she's usually a year or so older than Dick).

    Now, if Batman's career is 6 years total thus far, let's figure this timeline out.

    Year 1: Dick becomes Robin at age 14.

    Year 2: Dick.

    Year 3: Dick.

    Year 4: Dick leaves to become Nightwing at age 18; Jason Todd (age 17) immediately replaces him. Probably in the same year (could even be as little as a few months later), Jason is killed.

    Year 5: Tim comes in as Robin/Red Robin (age 16-17). This part is a little unclear. Teen Titans #0 is supposed to show the revised origin for Tim, so this is kinda up in the air at the moment.

    Year 6: Bruce "dies." Tim transitions into Red Robin (unless that was always his identity in New52?). Dick becomes Batman, Damian is his Robin. This lasts for, say, six months. Bruce returns, takes Damian as the new Robin.

    The only real problem with this is that it compresses the time that Dick and Tim spent as Robins. However, as far as we've seen, they're written exactly the same way as before. Even if Dick only spent 3 or 4 years with Bruce, that apparently had the same impact that the 6-8 years he spent with him in previous continuity had.

    And, to be fair, comics have always had the issue of ages and timelines. Heroes are generally supposed to be "eternally 27" or some such nonsense, and they simply avoided setting hard timelines in order to preserve the vague illusion. The problem here is that now DC is actually drawing attention to it, so it's easier to poke holes.

    I appreciate what you're doing, but the whole cock-up is too ridiculous for me to take seriously. I mean shit, even post-Zero Hour the idea that the Modern DCU had only been around for 10 years was a bit much to swallow. Trying to smush together so much supposed character development and history into half a decade is folly and everyone at DC knows it. I don't understand why they just haven't vaguely addressed it as "years ago" and leave it at that. Why would any new reader be interested in a history they'll never see if it sets up a past for characters whose continuities contradict those of the version from before August of 2011? Why does having 4 Robins matter over having 5 and 3 Batgirls, especially if Babs was basically Batgirl on the weekends for only a year? DC's absolutely trying to have their cake and eat it too, but it's way too contradictory for anybody to honestly take seriously or even keep track of. Listing the series of events isn't going to get people excited, it's just going to frustrate them further.

  9. Batman is in Year Six or Seven now, because he was operating in secret (sort of) before Superman's debut.

    Alright, but are the timeline deliniations with the sidekicks in reference to the mainstream DCU 5 year history or Batman's personal history?

  10. Batgirl's Zero Issue made the timeline more confusing for me. So she first met Batman four years ago, meaning in Year Two of the new timeline, was Batgirl for one whole year in Year Three of the timeline, was paralyzed for three solid year, which puts this at Year Six and not Five like it's been established?

  11. I think "Blink" is a good enough argument against charges for Moffat being sexist.

    I'm pretty sensitive to sexism in media, and I don't see it with Amy Pond. She'll need to get saved every now and then, sure, but that's a trope of the show not indicative to her gender. It's like Robin having to be saved by Batman every now and then. It doesn't denigrate the character, it establishes the series' status quo.

  12. Just saw it myself.

    A typical trope of a Doctor Who episode that I really really like always tends to start off real slow for me in the beginning. For the first 15-20 minutes, I'm very ho-hum, "It's okay but nothing holding my interest", and then before the halfway point it just sucks me in. This was great, and I loved how they played up the terror of the Daleks again, to the point where the 11th Doctor was screaming for his life. I love that, as it's something I don't believe we've seen from him. The Rory/Amy subplot was nice if a bit tacked on. I really did like it, and I like how the characters are coming off as older with each successive season.

  13. The Batman Universe Podcast(s)-All Batman/ All the time

    Batgirl to Oracle: the Barbara Gordon Podcast-comparison between the Silver/Bronze Age Babs Gordon Stories and the Modern Stories

    Bigger on the Inside

    Comic Geek Speak (occasonally, not every week)

    Comic Timing- Guys up in New York dish about comics

    Earth-2.net o'course

    Fatman on Batman -Kevin Smith's Batman show where he interviews people like Paul Dini, Mark Hamill, Kevin Conroy and so on. It's an excellent, excellent show.

    Kanzenshuu-the Podcast- the best Dragon Ball podcast out there, unfortunately for me : p

    Views from the Longbox-Michael Bailey's solo comic podcast

    The Next Dimension: A Dragon Ball Z Podcast

    Spider-Man Crawlspace

    The ones in bold are cheats since I co-host those.

  14. From a non-comics reader's perspective, I humbly offer up the following question:

    What's the big deal? If this is a new continuity (and this doesn't involve Batman or GL, who've meant to retain links to their pre-Flashpoint continuities if I've been reading things right), then why can't Superman & Wonder Woman be an item?

    I understand that the Supes-Lois dynamic is a big deal, but then they only married in comic continuity to tie in with Lois & Clark. Similarly, in other media, the JLU pushed a relationship of sorts between Diana and Batman. Granted Bats doesn't have a sustained love interest like Supes does, but doesn't Diana traditionally have Steve Trevor? In the DCAU, that relationship is explained within a specific time period and is therefore wrapped up neatly, but the concept of Batman and Wonder Woman wasn't THAT outrageous.

    The DCnU got criticised from its inception for not being radically different enough. And now Superman has traded (he says, not knowing if new Supes was even in a relationship with her) Lois Lane in for Wonder Woman, and that's a deal-breaker? I'm not firing off criticisms, I just don't understand what people a) are mad about, b) expected from a universe reboot, however half-arsed it was.

    I think I said before on these boards, but for me it's not so much the idea as it is my lack of faith in the execution. It's a logical idea never really fully explored, even when it's been done in stories like Kingdom Come or....DKSA. The current regime though...naw, no I don't think it'll be written very well.

  15. So, what, female heroes aren't allowed to date male heroes, or they're "less" somehow?

    If the execution's bad when it happens, then that'll be that. But the concept in itself is a good one; let's hope this goes well for now, and save the bitching for later, if and when things actually get sour.

    The to latter point, I agree. To the former point, YES. That's exactly how it will play out.

    Just look at Black Widow. She's nailed DD, Tony Stark, Wolverine, Bucky, Cap, In the fanbase from what I've seen, that's a boon to the male heroes, not to her.

    If this pushes WW into bigger popularity, then horray..? But I doubt it. It'll just give people a canonical reason to say Supes is banging/used to bang Wonder Woman.

  16. Honestly, the problems with Supes have more to do witb killing the Kents than anything else.

    Even more, though, this is a slight to WW. For the first time, as long as I can remember, I actually give a shit about her book, her story is really good and the art is fantastic. However, none of this matters, because she'll be relegated to "Superman's Girlfriend", now.

    That's exactly what's going to happen.

    Same with with Storm and Black Panther. Storm, who's arguably a more popular character, got relegated to midwife status once she was arbitrarily attatched to T'Challa. This won't big up Diana, it will big up Superman as someone who bagged Diana.

    I don't think the idea in itself is bad, but the execution's gonna blow.