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By the way, if I win that, it will be opened! In fact, I have the perfect place for our pal Bob the Goon: right next to my Darkseid figure.

cool what other JL-JLU DCAU Figures do u have I hate to pimp my own thread but you can post them in The Justice League Toys thread lol :angel: :D

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From what I've heard so far, this is a great episode, I'm at the part where Mike only chimes in to say what pisses him off about the movie.

I like the movie, and I can't find anything to say against mikes points.

By the way, if I win that, it will be opened! In fact, I have the perfect place for our pal Bob the Goon: right next to my Darkseid figure.

Yeah, I have a Darkseid figure as well, mines is from the new god collection:

Darkseidfront.jpg

This guy didn't even replace the hand with the gold one. I did.

It looks so cool.

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By the way, if I win that, it will be opened! In fact, I have the perfect place for our pal Bob the Goon: right next to my Darkseid figure.

Yeah, the powerhouses of the various incarnations of the DC Universe side-by-side. :laugh:

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Turns out I didn't end up with one.

was doug referring to the headbanger incident ? as far as the bruise

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Yeah, during the show I said the banner for the front page was going to be an image of my bruised head. And though I was a bit dizzy, there was no bruise.

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Yeah, during the show I said the banner for the front page was going to be an image of my bruised head. And though I was a bit dizzy, there was no bruise.

ahhh I remember that was there a bruise on the desk? :devil:

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Where's the Banner with a Bruise?

I thought you were referencing a Hulk action figure there.

I can agree with a lot of the points brought up but I do have a couple of things to say about this film that maintains it at around 3/5 in my book.

Even though its not said I think the timeframe deal is just poorly explained rather than crucially flawed. This isn't all happening in one week, all that stuff didn't just happen in one night. This stems from Burton's usual style over substance storytelling. What I mean by substance in this case is the sort of clues, realistic characters or hard-nosed realistic background. Just because you can't lay out a calender and point to each event happening day by day it doesn't mean they all happened at once. The date with Vicky Vale at the mansion for example, I took to be happening several days after the fundraiser, a pretty reasonable expectation.

Regarding the supposed stupidity or oddness of the characters I think that these people act as they do because they are basically living cartoons, a motif taken from every other big 80's family action blockbuster in some form or another. People act a certain way because it works, especially when the Joker comes courting. Does it make a lot of sense? No. What it does have is a good rhythm throughout, culminating in the already rattled Vale opening the box and fainting. Its also a little unfair to have a go at her for getting the door. He needs time to collect his thoughts and the persistant doorbell isn't helping, she probably just wants to get rid of whoever it is for Bruce's sake. The innate pacing of each scene is what makes the film work if you don't think about it too much.

Keaton's Wayne is just great, its not that he's airheaded per se, he's just preoccupied, supposedly with Vale. His rapport with Alfred is so strong that Alfred recognises this (whilst collecting drinks and pens), forming the basis for his affection and trust for Vale. Oh yeah, by the way, name the richest guy living in your city. Go on, name him. I'm betting he makes the society pages on occasion but I bet you don't specifically know who he is. Its the same in Gotham. Not saying that anyone should know that Vale and Wayne are an item but its not automatic that everyone knows who Bruce is.

Anyway, to my final point. This was directed by Tim Burton. If you expected Bruce to be out doing tough detective work or the issue of police corruption to be fully explore, maybe you should have lobbied for Michael Mann. Its Tim Burton! He got offered the biggest blockbuster of the decade and said yes, gave you his interpretation and you blame him? He's never done a film packed with realistic action or dealing with the moral ambiuitites of vigelantes. He tell fantastical stories about astonishing people in a way that a child can enjoy and understand. You and I might love the Dark Knight, but it was a bit tough for a few people in the audiance to understand (I know, I heard the complaints) and the general estimated intellegence of a viable blockbuster audiance was a lot lower 20 years ago when this was being made. This film went dark whilst retaining enough of the camp (and yes it is camp) to draw on its biggest potential audiance, ie everyone who remembered the old TV show. The honestly couldn't take it as far as you guys would have liked at the time, they would not have been allowed to by the producers.

All the other stuff, Vickie Vale being annoying, Batman killing people, the batcave 'encounter', Napier killing the Waynes, all that I agree with. Its a flawed film I absolutly agree, I just get a kick out of it.

I didn't mean to write an essay. Oh well.

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Oh yeah, by the way, name the richest guy living in your city. Go on, name him. I'm betting he makes the society pages on occasion but I bet you don't specifically know who he is. Its the same in Gotham. Not saying that anyone should know that Vale and Wayne are an item but its not automatic that everyone knows who Bruce is.

I don't know who the richest person living in my city is. But Bruce is much more than that. He is a freakin' billionaire. He should be at least on a Bill Gates level of known.

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Gotta say, I was steeling myself for quite a bit of criticism over this episode, but I'm pleasantly surprised!

Also, it may seem like a long show (and it is - I'm surprised Mike turned it around so quickly), but there's almost an hour cut out of this show!

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About Harvey's race: I always thought Denzel Washington would make the baddest Harvey Dent. But Batman 89's Harvey Dent did nothing for me, regardless of his race.

I'm telling you...Denzel will go Training Day on Batman's ass, and it'll be sweet.

I hope "She has MAN HANDS!" is going in the soundbite cut.

Very Important Question: Will you 3 review Batman Returns?

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About Harvey's race: I always thought Denzel Washington would make the baddest Harvey Dent. But Batman 89's Harvey Dent did nothing for me, regardless of his race.

I'm telling you...Denzel will go Training Day on Batman's ass, and it'll be sweet.

I'm still listening...

People still wonder why Harvey is black in the first one, yet turns into Tommy Lee Jones for the third......

I can't wait for when you guys talk about the second one....hopefully someone can explain what the hell The Penguins plan was!

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Harvey is black in the first one, yet turns into Tommy Lee Jones for the third

Black Harvey was boring and pointless, but Tommy Lee Jone's Harvey was just a joke.

Wasn't his plan to kill all of the firstborn sons of Gotham? (That's from memory, so pardon me if I'm way off.)

Yes, despite the fact it's been covered in the 10 Commandments.

So there will be a Batman Returns episode? Awesome, special treat.

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Wasn't his plan to kill all of the firstborn sons of Gotham? (That's from memory, so pardon me if I'm way off.)

The bit in the cave where Bruce says something about a fish boy and then Alfred says "does that make you feel better sir?" "No, it actually makes me feel worse"

Always made me say wtf

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The bit in the cave where Bruce says something about a fish boy and then Alfred says "does that make you feel better sir?" "No, it actually makes me feel worse"

Always made me say wtf

Were you confused because you're not sure why Bruce says "I feel worse."? If that's the case, what Bruce means is, though he suspected Penguin from the beginning, these new developments proves that Penguin is up to no good. You can paraphrase it:

Alfred: Well, aren't you happy now that your cynicism is proved right?

Bruce: No, why would I? Now I'm going to have to kick his ass and that's time away from me getting ass (From Vicky Vale).

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The bit in the cave where Bruce says something about a fish boy and then Alfred says "does that make you feel better sir?" "No, it actually makes me feel worse"

Always made me say wtf

Were you confused because you're not sure why Bruce says "I feel worse."? If that's the case, what Bruce means is, though he suspected Penguin from the beginning, these new developments proves that Penguin is up to no good. You can paraphrase it:

Alfred: Well, aren't you happy now that your cynicism is proved right?

Bruce: No, why would I? Now I'm going to have to kick his ass and that's time away from me getting ass (From Vicky Vale).

that's toooo funny selina :D

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Wow, I'm taken aback by how much Mike HATES this movie.

Why's the such a surprise? I've always been very vocal about my disdain for this film.

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