Cash Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 This is for an INCREDIBLY long thing that I've been planning for a long time now and have just now thought I can dive into full steam (Yoda putting the other article up really motivated me actually). So, what I'm going to TRY and do is trace the vampire through history and stuff. It's going to be incredibly long and I'm mainly writing it for my own personal enjoyment, but hopefully it can go up on the site at some point (as of right now... it's like 10 parts with the way I have it broken up). So, what I need is help from you, the peeps of Earth-2. I might wind up making a thread at the Oratory about it, but right now I'm more interested in what you guys have to say since I think you guys would be smarter about it. Remember that when I list "periods", I can make them longer if I get enough stuff. I don't mind writing more or watching/reading more. This is purely for my own personal enjoyment and possibly could be used as ammo to get me into graduate school at some point. This is what I have thus far: Literature The periods I'm looking at right now are: Pre-Dracula Dracula (yep, it gets its own section) Modern Lit not including Anne Rice Anne Rice Works: "Lamia" and "La Belle Dame Sans Merci" by Keats (bear with me on that one) The Vampyre by Polidori Carmilla and In a Glass Darkly by Le Fanu Dracula by Stoker Anne Rice stuff What I need here is post-Dracula things. All I have right now is Nosferatu by Robert Doherty as something that was recent. Movies The periods I'm looking at right now are: Black and White Beginnings of Color until 1990 90s 2000s Works: Nosferatu (and there are other black and white ones that I have written down somewhere but not handy right now) Bram Stoker's Dracula Underworld Van Helsing From Dusk Til Dawn Trilogy Buffy the Vampire Slayer () Yep, any help here would be sweet, just name me vampire movies. I especially need stuff for the second section. TV I don't even have periods for this as I only have very little to be honest. Works: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Angel That's all I've got. If you can think up ANYTHING, even cartoons, I'll be jazzed. Comics Again, no time periods right now. All I have so far is something Yoda suggested to me when I fleetingly mentioned this in PM and that's The Tomb of Dracula stuff. What would be pretty valuable here would be anytime a super hero has actually battled a vampire or Dracula. Video Games Yeah, no time periods again. I was thinking if I can get enough things though, that I'd make Castlevania and Buffy their own Series' though. Buffy the Vampire Slayer for XBox Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Chaos Bleeds Castlevania Series Bloodrayne? (I think it's vampire if I remember, but I'm not sure ) Van Helsing maybe So, that's what I have so far. ANY help would be appreciated! I might even do a music part for it if I can dig up enough about it, but that's way off the beaten path. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 These two lists (click me; click me too) are huge and will aid you well when researching both movies and TV shows. However long they might be, neither notes Blade: Trinity, so they're obviously not complete. But they should help nonetheless. I've pulled a few and noted them below. Movies 1970: House of Dark Shadows ---- Brought the Dark Shadows TV show to the big screen. 1971: Night of Dark Shadows ---- Sequel of the above. 1972: Blacula 1977: Martin ---- Written and directed by George A. Romero. It's about a young man who thinks he might be a vampire... maybe. He doesn't have fangs or cravings, the sun doesn't kill him and garlic only gives him bad breath, but, yeah, he might be a vampire. Maybe. 1985: Once Bitten 1985: Vampire Hunter D ---- Anime and manga. 1987: The Lost Boys 1992: Bram Stroker's Dracula 1994: Interview With the Vampire 1996: From Dusk 'til Dawn 1998: Blade 1998: John Carpenter's Vampires TV 1966-1971: Dark Shadows ---- Has a large cult following. 1979: Salem's Lot --- Four-part miniseries. 1990: Dark Shadows ---- Very short-lived follow-up of the original. 1994-1998: Spider-Man ---- Episode 19: Neogenic Nightmare, part six: Morbius ---- Episode 20: Neogenic Nightmare, part seven: Enter the Punisher ---- Episode 21: Neogenic Nightmare, part eight: Duel of the Hunters ---- Episode 24: Neogenic Nightmare, part nine: Blade, the Vampire Hunter ---- Episode 25: Neogenic Nightmare, part ten: The Immortal Vampire -------- Note: Though episodes 22 and 23 aired months before 24 and 25, they are actually parts 11 and 12 of the "Neogenic Nightmare" storyline and have no bearing on the five-part vampire section of the story. Also note that the human who would become Morbius appears in parts one and two (episodes 14 and 15) of the "Neogenic Nightmare" story arc. ---- Episode 47: Partners in Danger, part six: The Awakening ---- Episode 48: Partners in Danger, part seven: The Vampire Queen ---- Episode 62: Secret Wars, part two: The Gauntlet of the Red Skull Comics 1966: Dracula [Dell Comics] ---- Try this link too. 1971: Amazing Spider-Man #101 1971-1980: Tomb of Dracula [Marvel] ---- I think I sent you links via PM. 2001: Amazing Spider-Man (vol. 2) #30-35 ---- Much like Morbius, Morlun isn't a traditional vampire. He sucks energy rather than blood, but he's considered an unstoppable (Spider-Man couldn't beat him) vampire nonetheless. ---- Note: Due to Marvel's weird / dual numbering system, these issues are also #471-476. 2005-2006: Spider-Man: The Other ---- This 12-part return of Morlun story will span Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #1-4, Marvel Knights Spider-Man #19-22, and Amazing Spider-Man #525-528. various: Blade Morbius' brief bio, and appearances in Spider-Man comic books. Morlun's brief bio, and appearances in Spider-Man comic books. Video Games 1987-current: Castlevania series ---- Try this link too. 2002-current: BloodRayne series ---- This has spawned a comic book (2004-current) and a forthcoming movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted November 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 EXCELLENT! I'm kind of disappointed with myself, considering that Interview With the Vampire is one of my top five favorite movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 1991: Batman and Dracula: Red Rain 1994: Batman: Bloodstorm 1998: Batman: Crimson Mist ---- These three books comprise an Elseworlds trilogy where Batman becomes a vampire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Marv Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Vampire Hunter D is based on a novel, not a manga (there may be a manga, but the movie is based on the novel). It actually just got published in English very recently (like in the last year, despite the book's age). Vampire: The Masquerade - It's a pen and paper RPG, similar to Dungeons and Dragons, also has several computer games set in the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hellsing is arguably one of the most popular animes out right now. It's based off a manga, which is entering its 7th and 8th volumes in the USA. The OVA series (which will follow the manga storyline directly) comes out in Japan next month. I can give you more detailed information on the series if you'd like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hellsing is arguably one of the most popular animes out right now. It's based off a manga, which is entering its 7th and 8th volumes in the USA. The seventh arrived in late September. And yeah, it is great. I read the first five volumes in a matter of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Cash. Hit me up on PM. Have a couple of hours spare, and ask lots of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Maverick Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I read through half of the first piece already, and had no idea it was part of a wider series until I saw this thread. It sounds fantastic, and it’s a really interesting insight. If you want any advice on how to approach the Vampire from a different perspective, shoot me a PM. I’ve got quite a few things on the Sexual Theory surrounding them, some Freudian analysis of horror and repression and various other bits and bobs. But, you probably either have that covered at this point, or enough material to fill your columns. And I’m so interested by the topic, I could use the material I have to blatantly steal your momentum and produce my take on vampires once you’ve finished the series. Anyway, back to the other half.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted November 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thanks a ton guys. I'll be getting in touch with everyone soon, I'm excited by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 You could try Terry Pratchett's Carpe Jurgulum, a Discworld book (and one of the best) with vampires as its main theme. It's interesting as it looks at them in a different light, with a bit more wit. I highly recomend it as entertainment anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 If you have any questions on any of the Rice stuff I read the whole series religously and can answer just about any question you could have and I also can field any Hellsing or Buffy questions ya got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ooh, I forgot Lunar Legend Tsukihime. Another vampire-laden anime, but it's a lot more "sophisticated" (for want of a better word) than Hellsing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 If you have any questions about Anne Rice, here's my quick sum-up of everything in the Vampire chronicles. 'Here is the history of New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of the house that I live in in New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of every house in my street in New Orleans. They are beautiful. Here is a vampire. Back to New Orleans.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 If you have any questions about Anne Rice, here's my quick sum-up of everything in the Vampire chronicles. 'Here is the history of New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of the house that I live in in New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of every house in my street in New Orleans. They are beautiful. Here is a vampire. Back to New Orleans.' Except, they are nothing at all near that. Sure a lot of New Orleans is mentioned. But to say that the books revolve around that is just assinine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 If you have any questions about Anne Rice, here's my quick sum-up of everything in the Vampire chronicles. 'Here is the history of New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of the house that I live in in New Orleans. It is beautiful. Here is the history of every house in my street in New Orleans. They are beautiful. Here is a vampire. Back to New Orleans.' Except, they are nothing at all near that. Sure a lot of New Orleans is mentioned. But to say that the books revolve around that is just assinine. Ah, see, except, my habit of using humour to make points has obfuscated what my point actually is. The New Orleans bit was used more as an example, rather than as the be-all and end-all. What my point actually is, is that Anne Rice has this (to me, really irritating) tendancy to hugely overdo description, at the expense of character and plot. I find reading her novels akin to wading, knee deep, in purple prose. While it's the same thing a lot of people really like about her writing, it's something I can't stand. Occasionally, I'd like her to stop admiring the damn scenery, and get on with the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Eh, I see what you were getting at. But for the later books (Memnoch the Devil) it is a very crucial part of the story consider the settings. After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. See, you shouldn't have to do that. Every word should be there for a reason; nothing should be wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. See, you shouldn't have to do that. Every word should be there for a reason; nothing should be wasted. I agree fully and I never found myself doing it when I was actually sitting down and reading the book in a decent setting. I found myself doing it when re-reading the chronicles. I personally LOVED the depth Rice goes to describe the enviroment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. See, you shouldn't have to do that. Every word should be there for a reason; nothing should be wasted. I agree fully and I never found myself doing it when I was actually sitting down and reading the book in a decent setting. I found myself doing it when re-reading the chronicles. I personally LOVED the depth Rice goes to describe the enviroment. Whereas I think it suited the genre she wrote in previous to horror far better (BDSM Porn). It pretty much destroyed The Vampire Armand for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. See, you shouldn't have to do that. Every word should be there for a reason; nothing should be wasted. I agree fully and I never found myself doing it when I was actually sitting down and reading the book in a decent setting. I found myself doing it when re-reading the chronicles. I personally LOVED the depth Rice goes to describe the enviroment. Whereas I think it suited the genre she wrote in previous to horror far better (BDSM Porn). It pretty much destroyed The Vampire Armand for me. The only book I HAVEN'T read of the chronicles...I was always interested slightly but never went out of my way for it. And I can't figure out how BDSM porn could have a need for a detailed setting...but I have heard good things of her stuff in that genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Edge Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 After you've read a couple books you learn to kinda "skip over" the tad drawn out descriptions.. See, you shouldn't have to do that. Every word should be there for a reason; nothing should be wasted. I agree fully and I never found myself doing it when I was actually sitting down and reading the book in a decent setting. I found myself doing it when re-reading the chronicles. I personally LOVED the depth Rice goes to describe the enviroment. Whereas I think it suited the genre she wrote in previous to horror far better (BDSM Porn). It pretty much destroyed The Vampire Armand for me. The only book I HAVEN'T read of the chronicles...I was always interested slightly but never went out of my way for it. And I can't figure out how BDSM porn could have a need for a detailed setting...but I have heard good things of her stuff in that genre. Her 'Beauty' books - The continuing adventures of Sleeping Beauty, after she travels and becomes a sex slave - are actually quite good. It's all about luxurious slow scenes, and location plays a large part, because it's establishing the fantasy. As a result, her style fits a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blane Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Yea now that I remember that the stories are based on fairy tales...it definetly makes sense. I don't know , I absolutely LOVE the Vampire Chronicles so it's REAL hard pressed to make me say anything bad thing about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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