slothian Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 It occured to me that whilst some of the most immortalised people in music died at the height of their fame, a lot of people in the entertainment industry pass their peak and then do works that will never re-capture their glory days. So of all the actros/musicians/celebrities that you consider to have jumped their own personal career shark, at what point would you have someone end their career given that you know what they would then go on to do. For example, the one we (myself, Will & Chris) discussed in the chat room was Robin Williams: dc20willsave: Now Robin Williams, I think that One Hour Photo would be a good end point. slothian: that's the ting slothian: *thing slothian: would you allow all the films he made between Good Will Hunting/Insomnia and One Hour Photo? dc20willsave: Damn, that is a point. slothian: Or would you call time on his career earlier than One Hour Photo so that the overall average would remain higher? dc20willsave: Yeah, Good Will Hunting might be the better cut off date for Robin Williams. Patch Adams is a movie that should not exist in this world. Koete: Flubber is like getting a kick delivered to your career's balls. dc20willsave: Then was Bicentennial Man castration? Koete: Sounds fitting. So choose a celebrity and think of the best career cut-off date to ensure their legendary status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Megan Fox. Transformers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I think he was asking for good actors and good movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 - _ - I am aware. She woulda been legendary as "the ridiculously hot chick from Transformers." Now she's nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Robert DeNiro. I would say around Heat was his last hurrah. Nowadays it seems to be all about the money. Eddie Murphy: Metro. Al Pacino: Though, he may be a bit harder to pin down than the other two. But he clearly does it for the money now. I was going to say Carlitos way, but that may be a bit too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 She woulda been legendary as "Generic Hot Actress #42." Now she's the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Heath Ledger- The Dark Knight. Although I confess to having not seen Dr Parnassus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 For example, the one we (myself, Will & Chris) discussed in the chat room was Robin Williams: World's Greatest Dad would disagree. It's probably his best performance and only made last year. Robert DeNiro. I would say around Heat was his last hurrah. Nowadays it seems to be all about the money. Machete. Al Pacino: Though, he may be a bit harder to pin down than the other two. But he clearly does it for the money now. I was going to say Carlitos way, but that may be a bit too early. Pacino has been an overactor since Dog Day Afternoon in the mid seventies. Heath Ledger- The Dark Knight. Although I confess to having not seen Dr Parnassus. How does Ledger jump the shark here? It's really the last film he was ever in. He portrayed on of the greater onscreen villains of all time. Parnassus was finished after his death and is choppy as a result of having lost it's lead halfway through filming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 You see it was a joke. Because his career peaked there and he didn't really get to make more films. Like saying that James Dean never did anything good after Giant. Dark humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Heath Ledger- The Dark Knight. Although I confess to having not seen Dr Parnassus. Dr Parnassus was fucking awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 You're funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Heath Ledger- The Dark Knight. Although I confess to having not seen Dr Parnassus. Dr Parnassus was fucking awful. Forgive me if you don't take your Kick-ass hating advice on that, I've had significant advice that conflicts. You're funny. That's what my mum tells me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Forgive me if you don't take your Kick-ass hating advice on that, I've had significant advice that conflicts. Ha. Yeah, well, I'll be fairer then. It's a film you should see for Ledger, Depp, Jude Law, and Colin Farrell performances, every one else phones it in, and expects the CG to make up for them being lazy. I would also say, Gilliam is usually an awesome director, Fisher King was alright, and Fear and Loathing was one of my favourite movies ever, however here, he was just plain average at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Jim Carrey: Whilst I hear he's meant to be pretty good in I Love You Phillip Morris, I'd be quite happy to end his run with Eternal Sunshine. Cameron Diaz: Being John Malkovich. Looking back through IMDB, her 90s output is pretty damn strong. Then as soon as the millenium hits, Charlie's Angels. I'll be interested to see how many actresses get listed in this topic, given that they usually have less stellar roles to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Jim Carrey: Whilst I hear he's meant to be pretty good in I Love You Phillip Morris, I'd be quite happy to end his run with Eternal Sunshine. Cameron Diaz: Being John Malkovich. Looking back through IMDB, her 90s output is pretty damn strong. Then as soon as the millenium hits, Charlie's Angels. I'll be interested to see how many actresses get listed in this topic, given that they usually have less stellar roles to fill. Sandra Bullock would be a good one to do. But you are spot on with Diaz, and Carrey I totally agree with. Pacino has been an overactor since Dog Day Afternoon in the mid seventies. Yeah, but when he was younger you'd put up with it and call it emotion and getting the character, now he's just an old man shouting a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 We were actually talking Carrey last night in the chat and I'm convinced that he still has one great role left in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Carrey peaked with Eternal Sunshine but I too think he has far more dramatic potential than he's fulfilling right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Carrey peaked with Eternal Sunshine but I too think he has far more dramatic potential than he's fulfilling right now. As long as he doesn't do another Number 23. I think if Chris Nolan used him, that would be a great end point. Not use him in Batman, I mean use him like he used Robin Williams, and showed how sinister this former funny man could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Carrey peaked with Eternal Sunshine but I too think he has far more dramatic potential than he's fulfilling right now. As long as he doesn't do another Number 23. I think if Chris Nolan used him, that would be a great end point. Not use him in Batman, I mean use him like he used Robin Williams, and showed how sinister this former funny man could be. Why not? Just imagine how great Jim Carrey could be as The Riddler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George W. Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 As long as he doesn't do another Number 23. I think if Chris Nolan used him, that would be a great end point. Not use him in Batman, I mean use him like he used Robin Williams, and showed how sinister this former funny man could be. Why not? Just imagine how great Jim Carrey could be as The Riddler... Wow, that would be... ...wait... ...oh, fuck you, Stavros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 After finishing up the last season of Buffy, Sarah Michelle Geller should have comfortaly faded into obscurity, occasionally doing a voice on Robot Chicken. Christina Ricci after Monster. Famke Janssen after she did Eulogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 See, I think Sarah Michelle is too young to have a stamp put on her entire career. I mean, she hasn't really done a single noteworthy thing after Buffy; it's not like she actually tanked her career or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Will Ferrell should have called it quits after "Stranger Than Fiction." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Ah-nold: True Lies Sigourney Weaver: Galaxy Quest Stev Martin: Bowfinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 M Night Shamalyan (?)- Unbreakable. That's a guy who never quite got the magic back once he started going downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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