Missy Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 [Click the image to read the setup, then return here to vote.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarrik Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 First of all Yoda, I think that putting it on the main page is Brilliant. Second of all, Captain America wins. Batman has defeated bane several times, and he's only human with a bunch of gadgets. Captain America is on the same level as Batman, as a tactician, and combat specialist. Logic dictates that Cap is victorious. I'll come up with a story later, but you've got my reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 First of all Yoda, I think that putting it on the main page is Brilliant. Thank you. It was always my intention to run these on the mainpage; I just never bothered to do it until now. What I'd also like to do (and this is off in the future) is to have Versus debates (through AIM or something). I'd serve as a moderator as two other writers had a back and forth concerning predetermined combatants. At the end, I'd decide who presented the better argument, and their character would be deemed the winner. Then, the entire conversation would be posted on the site for all to see. On topic: Keep in mind that Cap is tired, just as Batman was when Bane broke him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Logan Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I'd like to be the first to say that I like the dangerous, non-idiot portrayal of Bane more and more. Bane is insanely strong, and his use of adamantium to reinforce his Venom tubes is a sign of the great tactician that he is. A healthy Captain America (which Cap isn't at this point), would be able to get out of the way of Bane's attacks, due to his overwhelming size and relative lack of speed. This tired Cap, however, will not be able to avoid as many strikes as he'd like, and to be truthful, enough to make this battle not so cut and dry. Bane has very few weaknesses in this portrayal, minus speed and the Venom tank. If Cap can get enough offense in, he could damage the tank, causing many problems for Bane. If Captain America takes too much of Bane's offense, then he will not be able to do much in the way of dodging, and will, as a result continue to take even more damage until his breaking point. He's at a major disadvantage, and I think the surprise of not being able to break Bane's tubes will give Bane an early advantage. Lights out for Cap. Result: Bane wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat DJ Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Captain America. This is what he does. The deck is stacked ridiculously against him, and he still wins. It's just how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Captain America. This is what he does. The deck is stacked ridiculously against him, and he still wins. It's just how it works. That's the way it is with Batman, and Bane broke him. Not just physically, but mentally too. Bane destroyed Bruce Wayne. Why is Cap any different? (I'm simply playing Devil's advocate here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Paradise Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Captain America. Batman eventually found a way to beat Bane even though Bane broke him, and so would Captain America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kscriv Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 First of all Yoda, I think that putting it on the main page is Brilliant. Thank you. It was always my intention to run these on the mainpage; I just never bothered to do it until now. What I'd also like to do (and this is off in the future) is to have Versus debates (through AIM or something). I'd serve as a moderator as two other writers had a back and forth concerning predetermined combatants. At the end, I'd decide who presented the better argument, and their character would be deemed the winner. Then, the entire conversation would be posted on the site for all to see. I'd be up for that, if ou picked a guy that I could work with (I'm not the biggest comic buff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.Logan Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 First of all Yoda, I think that putting it on the main page is Brilliant. Thank you. It was always my intention to run these on the mainpage; I just never bothered to do it until now. What I'd also like to do (and this is off in the future) is to have Versus debates (through AIM or something). I'd serve as a moderator as two other writers had a back and forth concerning predetermined combatants. At the end, I'd decide who presented the better argument, and their character would be deemed the winner. Then, the entire conversation would be posted on the site for all to see. I'd be up for that, if ou picked a guy that I could work with (I'm not the biggest comic buff) He means me, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheap Heat Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 There were 2 major differences between this and the Batman storyline that leads me to give this. First off, Batman received very little help for getting his villians. Secondly, he was sick from the flu. Captain America, while tired, isn't anywhere near as destroyed as Batman was. The battling would be very close, but the Cap would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tglancy Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Yoda, great job including the New Avengers storyline. Very cool Anyways, as for the fight, Captain America would simply get his ass handed to him. Bane is every bit as strong as Cap, if not stronger. Venom, basically, is the super soldier serum in regards to it's effects on the user. Bane is also just as quick and agile as Cap as well. Cap would hold his own for a while, but without being able to break the flow of Venom, Bane would simply lift Cap over his head and break him too. Even if Cap is 100%, Bane stills wipes the floor with him. Bane is your god. Of course, someone would then put on a goofy looking metal version of Caps costume and beat Bane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Of course, someone would then put on a goofy looking metal version of Caps costume and beat Bane. Like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tglancy Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 But Yoda, without his new armor he'd be paralyzed... paralyzed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 But Yoda, without his new armor he'd be paralyzed... paralyzed!! Paralyzed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cataldi Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think with the conditions set down in the description, Cap can't really win. Cap's too tired, and he can't stop Bane's flow of Venom. So Bane would win. But I also think the set-up really overly favors Bane, too. It's well written and interesting, but I think it doesn't make it a true even fight. When I think of a versus situation, I kind of think of it like Super Smash Bros. Two people are picked up and brought to some random place, they fight, whoever's stronger wins. This set-up's really interesting, but it's giving Bane too much of an advantage off the bat. It might be how Bane would operate in "real life", but I still don't think it's a true fair fight to determine who's stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think with the conditions set down in the description, Cap can't really win. Cap's too tired, and he can't stop Bane's flow of Venom. So Bane would win. But I also think the set-up really overly favors Bane, too. It's well written and interesting, but I think it doesn't make it a true even fight. When I think of a versus situation, I kind of think of it like Super Smash Bros. Two people are picked up and brought to some random place, they fight, whoever's stronger wins. This set-up's really interesting, but it's giving Bane too much of an advantage off the bat. It might be how Bane would operate in "real life", but I still don't think it's a true fair fight to determine who's stronger. Dropping two characters into a random setting and letting them go at it is boring, and proves little. The setup I wrote shows how smart Bane is and that he's more than willing to take advantage of the technology around him (RE: adamantium). It also shows how selfless Captain America is (RE: sending the team home for rest). Yes, the setup clearly favors Bane. However, nearly all comic book fights favor the villain(s) at first. If they didn't, the hero(es) wouldn't have anything to overcome. This makes each fight more exciting. It also forces all of you to put more thought into your decisions. For example, Bane's tubing is too easy to cut. That's his downfall, and Cap knows it. (We all know it.) If a modification wasn't made, the fight would be over in three seconds. However, with the adamantium upgrade, Captain America needs to find another way to beat the killer (if he can). And that's where all of you come in. Since I don't script the finish (and never reveal who I side with), it's up to you to say, "Okay, this is how Cap takes Bane down..." or "This is how Bane crushes Captain America..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genet Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 It seems Captain America has home field advantage. I wonder what kind of weapons he has at his disposal in the skyscraper. (I'm not to familiar with Captain America.) Awesome little site here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 It seems Captain America has home field advantage. I wonder what kind of weapons he has at his disposal in the skyscraper. (I'm not to familiar with Captain America.) Awesome little site here. The skyscraper is new to continuity, but it was meant to serve as the home of Tony Stark (Iron Man). It was since been transformed into the new Avengers HQ, so it can be assumed that weapons/defense systems are scattered about and that Cap knows all about them. Thanks for the compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Cap wins. He's not as worn out as Batman was, and the Super-Soldier serum makes Cap much more able to bounce back than Batman. Finally, Cap was confident enough to go take down Zemo on his own, knowing what Zemo is capable of, so he's not as tired as Bane might think. Cap also took down Promethius (sp?) in Avengers vs. JLA, and P. is more dangerous than Bane. Cap has fought opponents with superhuman strength before. Had Bane been able to launch a surprise attack and get Cap reeling before he knew what was going on, Bane would be the favorite to win this fight. With this set-up, Cap comes out bloody, bruised, and in need of medical attention, but Bane still loses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted March 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Cap proves he's the better man, and takes Bane down in an eight to four victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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