Missy Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Anyone else read the first issue? Thoughts? To me it felt rushed, disjointed and filled with holes. I understand some time has passed since Ultimates 2 #13 ended and Ultimates 3 #1 began, but, man, I was confused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tglancy Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 You hit the nail on the head. I think the art hurt the book more than anything, because I had no idea what the hell was happening panel to panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 That's the odd thing: artistically it was awesome, but the storytelling (art wise) wasn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tglancy Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Exactly. It was beautiful to a fault. And you know what? I can read between the lines when it comes to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. I really hated that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 And you know what? I can read between the lines when it comes to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. I really hated that part. This statement makes me happy I'm not reading this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Yeah, I didn't need to be told that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are in love. Millar made it obvious during his two series, so why did Loeb have to outright say it? Lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragernok2002 Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 I liked it, according to Leob Cap's journey has something to do with the ending of Ultimate Power plus I am loving Hawkeye at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drqshadow Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I was very let down by this. As has been said, the artwork was just captivating but it wasn't easy to follow. The story was a major step back from the last set of books... before it was smart, filled with subtle bits of characterization and great dangling plot threads. Now it's like Youngblood. "The heroes were just chilling out at their luxury pad, when suddenly... Venom blew through the wall!" Awful, awful writing. Come on Loeb, what happened to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Wow... just... wow. Ultimates 3 #2 was one of the worst superhero comic books I've ever read. Christ, how does Jeph Loeb go from writing touching stories like Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America #5 to utter crap like this and Onslaught Reborn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drqshadow Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Couldn't agree more. This was filthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I honestly feel dumber having read that comic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Bearing in mind that I haven't actually read Ultimates 3 yet... Ultimates is the epitomie of Big Dumb Action comic. Millar was very good at writing BDA's and still making them kinda charming and fun. (Even he couldn't kep it up forever; Ult 2 was nowhere near as fun as Ult 1.) It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that now that he's gone, the quality is suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yeah...not good. Not good at all. Can I have some characters instead of these at most one-note cliches? I'm upset that Ultimate Spidey is even associated with this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Dan: While Ultimates and Ultimates 2 by Millar and Hitch were akin to action movies, at least the characters had depth and the two series helped build the Ultimate Universe. Ultimates 3, however, has taken those characters and pissed on them. Everything that came before has been shat on by Loeb because he, obviously, has no clue what the Ultimate Universe is about; instead of looking forward, he's turning this into Youngblood circa 1993. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 As hard-edged as the Ultimate universe could be at times it was quite innocent in terms of its comic-book mythology and storytelling. This just reeks of the sort of comics industry cynicism you'd find in Mark Millar's or Warren Ellis's most extreme titles. Its totally wrong for the setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 So I read Ultimates 02, and then five minutes later I'd forgotten what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 So I read Ultimates 02, and then five minutes later I'd forgotten what happened. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 To be honest, I think I was stoned at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-T Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I just picked up the collection. Hawkeye was awesome, but the series itself was a big letdown after 1 and 2. We know what is going on with Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch without smacking us in the face with it and making them into inbred redneck hilljacks. There was no need to redesign Thor, the Ultrons and their motivation came out of nowhere with not nearly enough buildup, and the cliffhanger ending made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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