Sion Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 With World War Hulk coming up I have been wondering who is marvel's most powerful individual? I figured for the longest time that the Hulk was the most powerful but after reading the New Avengers the Sentry might give the green goliath a run for his money. I might be wrong in thinking the Hulk is the most powerful but I think in terms of brute strength and durability he is more powerful than guys like Thor and Hyperion who are both gods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Robinson Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I think we all know the answer to that: Squirrel Girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 For me it comes down to Hulk, Sentry, Gladiator and Thor. Hulk is only as strong as he is angry, so his strength fluctuates. Nevertheless, even at his weakest he could still cause major damage. Sentry isn't stable. Get inside his head and he's useless. Gladiator's powers are derived from his confidence: if he thinks he can beat you, he can beat you. On the rare occasion when his confidence falters (e.g. Uncanny X-Men #341), he falls. Thor on the other hand is always a god. His powers are not derived from anger or self-confidence, nor is he a basket case. He's simply the all-powerful God of Thunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 How powerful is Namor? I always got the impression he was right up there. Plus theres always Black Bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Namor is strong, but not in the same league as the men I mentioned above. From his bio on Marvel.com: When not exposed to water, Namor’s physical attributes gradually decline and can diminish over time to near-human levels, robbing him of his strength and rendering him vulnerable to conventional injuries; renewed exposure to water will immediately restore his abilities. And I thought we were talking about brute strength, hence why I left Black Bolt off the list. According to Wiki: He can channel his power into single devastating punch called "The Master Blow," which is strong enough to momentarily drive back even a being with the Thing's level of strength. This act, however, leaves Black Bolt exhausted and he must recover afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drubot Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I say Thor, Phoenix, and the Silver Surfer. Thor, like Mike said, is a god of thunder. Simple as that. Jean Grey, specifically the Phoenix, is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful mutant ever. The Silver Surfer has the POWER COSMIC. According to wikipedia the Power Cosmic is a term from the comic book world of the Marvel Universe, being used to name a presumably immeasurable power which was described as "the most powerful [force] in the universe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 If we're talking about anything beyond brute strength, Phoenix, Silver Surfer, Black Bolt and several other heroes should be added to the list. But the original post said: I might be wrong in thinking the Hulk is the most powerful but I think in terms of brute strength and durability he is more powerful than guys like Thor and Hyperion who are both gods. So for me this list is all about the strong guys (and girls). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 If we're talking about anything beyond brute strength, Phoenix, Silver Surfer, Black Bolt and several other heroes should be added to the list. But the original post said: I might be wrong in thinking the Hulk is the most powerful but I think in terms of brute strength and durability he is more powerful than guys like Thor and Hyperion who are both gods. So for me this list is all about the strong guys (and girls). What I should have posted was who is the most powerful individual. This could be in terms of strength(Hulk), magic(Dr. Strange), inability to die(Wolverine), or just super power(Silver Surfer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I want to know if it all boiled down to one person who would be marvel's most powerful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 In that case, it's Phoenix. In the blink of an eye she could obliterate all of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 If this is overall powerfulness, Nick Fury is up there. Wanda Freakin' Maximoff. She can change reality on a global scale. I couldn't say Phoenix just because she's been defeated and/or killed so many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 If this is overall powerfulness, Nick Fury is up there. Wanda Freakin' Maximoff. She can change reality on a global scale. Doctor Strange trumps Wanda in terms of magical power, he simply chooses not to alter reality as she did. I couldn't say Phoenix just because she's been defeated and/or killed so many times. Jean died, not Phoenix. That's the catch. Phoenix is a force. It will find another host and consume worlds again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 God, you all disappoint me. Clearly, the answer to this question is: :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Marv Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 List of people not considered but probably should be as they're all more powerful than Thor: Onslaught Apocalypse Thanos Galactus Proteus The answer is either Galactus or Proteus. I believe Galactus is the current canonical answer, which is probably true as Proteus is fairly minor despite his relatives. Both can exist in pure energy states and therefore cannot be destroyed. There's also the whole Beyonder mess. Anyway, it's kind of silly to debate this in this setting. You can talk potential all you want but it doesn't mean a damned thing. Wanda Maximoff has a much higher power potential than Wolverine but she lacks control over her abilities and to a certain extent, ambition. Logan on the other hand, has used the adamantium and his possible centuries of experience to become an immensely capable warrior, although on the surface a healing factor and heightened senses don't seem like much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 If this is overall powerfulness, Nick Fury is up there. He's powerful like Batman or Lex Luthor are powerful. All his secret plans and massive influence mean he is capable of having a bigger effect on the Marvel U at large than most others are. People who could destroy the universe in comics are ten a penny. People who can control, outwit and still influence governments and nations are rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Ah, now I get your meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 But controlling and influencing a nation is nothing when there are those who can obliterate that nation with a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 But controlling and influencing a nation is nothing when there are those who can obliterate that nation with a look. But then all thats left is smouldering nothingness. Dr Doom will tell you thats not real power. Power is in controlling people. Vandal Savage killed everyone and totally regretted it later. Theres a more interesting way to look at this- instead of judging power on who can eat bigger chunks of a supposed actual marvel universe why not ask who has the ability to affect the most change in the Marvel Universe as we percieve it. The planet-busters will never really succeed but men like Tony Stark as we've seen can create real change in what we see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 With that in mind, why settle on one planet when you could rule them all? Is there anyone in the Marvel Universe with enough power and cunning to accomplish such a feat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Thanos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 My memory is failing me at the moment (I'm so damn tired), but I recall something being said about Thanos always being doomed to failure. Does anyone else recall this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Adam Warlock said something to that effect after he obtained the Infinity Gauntlet in the whole "Infinity Gauntlet" saga. When Warlock took the gauntlet, he said something like, "You'd only lose it again, Titan. You don't really want it." My memory is failing me at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 With that in mind, why settle on one planet when you could rule them all? Is there anyone in the Marvel Universe with enough power and cunning to accomplish such a feat? Kang then. He's ruled huge stretches of the universe for long periods of history and the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bento Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 maybe it's just straight up Hulk. I mean it's the Hulk. He's survived so much. He's managed to survive after being shot into space and dealing with inter-galactic gladiatorial craziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overload Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 You are all getting off topic again, Yoda keeps bringing up that the topic was about strength. When "most Powerful" is said i think you all think of sheer power as in ability, but we're just talkin' muscle here, which i think the guy was right in thinking the Hulk, yes he can come and go with strength because of his anger but if he's in a fight...he'll fly off the andle for stubbing his toe, and that will only boost his strength. and am i mistaken in saying, wasn't the Hulk taken over by the venom symbiote, put them together and man have you got a powerhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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