Molly Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 So, who's the new Red Hood? My money is on: Joker. He knows that "the Real" Batman is dead and this is his way of dealing with it. Without Batman, he just becomes Batman, albeit a more violent one. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is his body shape. Hood is awfully ripped to be Joker. It could also be Jason Todd, but that would be a huge let down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 So, who's the new Red Hood? My money is on: Joker. He knows that "the Real" Batman is dead and this is his way of dealing with it. Without Batman, he just becomes Batman, albeit a more violent one. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is his body shape. Hood is awfully ripped to be Joker. It could also be Jason Todd, but that would be a huge let down. I agree. I think the "clue" at the end of issue four was a red herring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I think it's neither. I think it could beDr Hurt. He still wants to f with Batman, and wants to dig up the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Nah, I'm thinking that Oberon Sexton and Hood are Joker's way of re-creating Bruce Wayne and Batman, in Joker's scarred, shattered, sort of way. Especially considering that Sexton was "scarred by the men who murdered his wife," which sounds rather 'Killing Joke' to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 It could be. Joker was nearly killed by Damien at the end of R.I.P. It would be weird him going back to his previous role. But like R.I.P, we could all be guessing at things that aren't really there. Also, speaking of R.I.P, did anyone else see that Morrison created another crime group wanting to take down batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 It could be. Joker was nearly killed by Damien at the end of R.I.P. It would be weird him going back to his previous role. The way I see it Without Batman, Joker is wearing the costume of the criminal he was before he met Batman. Also, in case anyone didn't read it, Pyg, a dollotron, and Flamingo were in Batman #666. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Also: Without Batman, there is no joke. Joker has nothing to laugh about. I've seen people pointing to Hood's "Heh." to Scarlette as evidence that he's Jason Todd. I like to think that 'Heh.' is all the laugh Joker can muster up without Bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted September 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Also: Without Batman, there is no joke. Joker has nothing to laugh about. I've seen people pointing to Hood's "Heh." to Scarlette as evidence that he's Jason Todd. I like to think that 'Heh.' is all the laugh Joker can muster up without Bats. That's how I read it too. I see it as a subtle nod to who's really behind the Red Hood, as opposed to the blatant red herring at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Oh yeah, Koete is right about 666. I only caught Pyg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 6:05:57 PM Preston: I have a new, crazy theory about Red Hood. 6:06:02 PM Preston: What if... 6:06:09 PM Preston: It *is* Bruce Wayne. 6:06:25 PM Hannah Krueger: ....Okay, tell me how that would work? 6:07:25 PM Preston: Bruce gets back from his lifetimes of punishment, and is totally fucking warped. He picks up the guise of Red Hood, because he is, without a doubt, still going to fight corruption. 6:07:53 PM Preston: He reaches out to a scarred little girl, as she's the kinda of sparrow with a broken wing that he's always attracted. 6:09:10 PM Preston: But, he dyes her hair red, so she matches one of his greatest failures (Bab's paralysis) and dresses himself up as two of his own failures (Joker and Jason Todd.) 6:09:23 PM Hannah Krueger: ...This is crazy enough that it would work. 6:09:35 PM Hannah Krueger: I like this idea. A lot. 6:09:45 PM Preston: I mean, it's not. 6:09:53 PM Preston: But, it totally would work. 6:10:18 PM Hannah Krueger: It's Morrison, there's a chance something like this could happen. 6:11:29 PM Hannah Krueger: The way he talks, though, I still think it's gonna be Joker. 6:11:57 PM Preston: Me too. 6:12:12 PM Preston: Haha. Or Victor Freeze. 6:12:19 PM Preston: Out of nowhere, it's Freeze. 6:12:46 PM Preston: Or, even better. 6:12:51 PM Preston: It's Killer Croc. 6:14:22 PM Hannah Krueger: ...How many IQ points would Killer Croc have to spontaneously obtain for that to happen? 6:14:42 PM Preston: Oh, also, he ate Riddler's brain and gained his power. 6:15:29 PM Hannah Krueger: Super intelligence? 6:15:31 PM Hannah Krueger: That would do it. 6:15:44 PM Preston: Even better. 6:15:47 PM Preston: It's Grodd. 6:15:54 PM Hannah Krueger: Rh'as. 6:16:04 PM Preston: Grodd >>> Ra's 6:16:34 PM Hannah Krueger: True. 6:16:38 PM Hannah Krueger: Penguin? 6:16:46 PM Hannah Krueger: 6:16:47 PM Preston: Hahaha 6:16:51 PM Preston: Wait, wait. 6:16:55 PM Preston: Superman. 6:17:01 PM Hannah Krueger: SUPERBOY PRIME. 6:17:05 PM Preston: HAHAHAHAHAH 6:17:08 PM Preston: YES. 6:18:32 PM Preston: "I'm going to kill you to death! By shooting you! With Bullets! RRRAAAARL!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Also, in case anyone didn't read it, Pyg, a dollotron, and Flamingo were in Batman #666. Yeah, its cool that Morrison laid the foundation for all these new criminals this far back. Hurt and his cronies were failures because they were all introduced at the same time with no opportunity to see them for anything more than extravagantly dressed muscle for The Black Glove. The establishment of Pyg and his MO sheds light on the events of Batman 666, and they've also built up Flamingo individually as well. Its also interesting that the big villian of that issue is the fallen Batman who is currently Azrael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Frazer Irving is on #10-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 So, who's the new Red Hood? My money is on: Joker. He knows that "the Real" Batman is dead and this is his way of dealing with it. Without Batman, he just becomes Batman, albeit a more violent one. The only thing that makes me think otherwise is his body shape. Hood is awfully ripped to be Joker. It could also be Jason Todd, but that would be a huge let down. Well, we know now. http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/1036236.html#cutid1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nope. If that's who it is, we knew last issue. We won't know for sure until that hood comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 IGN Comics: One of the things your Batman work has done this far is really dig into the past of the franchise, resurrecting old concepts and breathing new life into them. Will you still be doing that now that Bruce is no longer wearing the mask? Morrison: 'Batman and Robin' mostly features all new characters, villains and situation – although some were previously glimpsed in Batman #666 - but it builds on everything that's gone before. Des if I'm right about Dick being the dad, you have to read out "Suavestar rules" on dread media. Deal. But if you're wrong, I get a quote in your sig for 3 months that says, "I will never doubt the brilliance that is Des again." Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nope. If that's who it is, we knew last issue. We won't know for sure until that hood comes off. I was going to say, Hood himself confirms nothing, its all supposition on the part of our heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 IGN Comics: One of the things your Batman work has done this far is really dig into the past of the franchise, resurrecting old concepts and breathing new life into them. Will you still be doing that now that Bruce is no longer wearing the mask? Morrison: 'Batman and Robin' mostly features all new characters, villains and situation – although some were previously glimpsed in Batman #666 - but it builds on everything that's gone before. Des if I'm right about Dick being the dad, you have to read out "Suavestar rules" on dread media. Deal. But if you're wrong, I get a quote in your sig for 3 months that says, "I will never doubt the brilliance that is Des again." Just sayin'. As long as you keep to your end of the bargain, I'll keep to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I just read the full preview at IGN. I really hate Tan's take on the Penguin, and thank god he's only on this for three issues, shame as I liked his Green Lantern work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 When talking to Newsarama Dan Didido was asked: 7) T Boogie! wrote: When we see the Joker again, which interpretation will it be? The classic version or the one with the grin carved into his face? Dan DiDio: We saw a little bit of the Joker in Gotham City Sirens, but the Joker comes back in full force in Grant's run of Batman and Robin. Newsarama: So if it's Grant, then it will be Grant's interpretation of the Joker? Dan DiDio: We're going to be following a lot of what Grant set forth with the Joker. We don't want to give away too much, but yeah, there's a good chance it will be a... very important story with the Joker when he appears. If he appears in Batman and Robin. Newsarama: Wait, where did the "if" come from? Dan DiDio: [laughs] Yeah, I still have to be vague don't I? Well, Dini is using him in Sirens but the looks of issue four and five, so DC are back to not knowing what the left hand is doing when playing with the right, awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 ...So is GCS in larger Batverse continuity or is Dini off doing his own thing? The fuck, Didio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I'm gonna try to explain this: Dan Didio is a great pitchman, but he has no idea what an editor is supposed to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Or he just doesn't want to spoil how he appears in B&R. Really, he's the EIC, so he's not the best person to be interviewing about smaller houses within the company. He has as control over the Bat Universe as he does Vertigo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I like Didio, a lot. But Countdown alone is proof that he has no clue what an editor does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 That's not a fair comparison. Vertigo isn't just a group of titles with one theme, they are a totally different company, with a different EIC. I think, cause Wildstorm has Jim Lee and that's part of the DC umbrella. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Also, the person who is really to blame is not DiDido, it's the editor of the Bat books who is meant to keep things in check, and not have conflicting things in your titles. Anyway, I was on eBay earlier, did anyone know that Tony Daniel did a 1:25 variant cover for Batman & Robin #3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Vertigo is not their own company and neither is Wildstorm. They are owned by DC and just as much a part of DC as something like Johnny DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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