KnightWing Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 $100 mil for ads on top of a $200 mil budget, maybe. But it's still a stretch. There's no way there was $200 mil on-screen in the final film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 $100 mil for ads on top of a $200 mil budget, maybe. But it's still a stretch. There's no way there was $200 mil on-screen in the final film. Doesn't that budget include the money that the actors, director and crew were paid? Or is that separate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxPower Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Here's the thing though, if they've tried to do a lot of toy tie in's then it will be very hard for anyone to say if it made money or not. I'm not defending a $300m production and marketing budget, I'm just saying all those crazy $50 toys add up. And with both comic houses owning their movies, for the most part, the trickle effect to more comic sales, etc would be an interesting study. That said, what they hell did they spend $200m on to make that movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I thought it was great. The voiceover at the beginning and end was stupid. I would have liked that early stuff explained to Jordan while he was being trained for, you know, more than 6 minutes. Other than that, the effects were excellent, the acting was solid, the story was on a level with other origin stories and it gave me one moment I'd never seen before which is always a plus: the moment when Carol recognizes him is a bit of beauty. And Blake Lively was a standout as far as acting is concerned. I thought she was great. And the costume looked great. Putting to rest my two most uncertain sticking points going in. The sequel better be Sinestro-based or I'll be upset. One of the better superhero films out there, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koete Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Well whaddya know, the world is ending in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 What'd I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Des, I don't think you understand. I also liked the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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James D. Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I liked it, too. And Des and I agree on stuff just about as much as Dubs and Des agree on stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 We shall call this alliance The Bermuda Triangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Wonder Cynics Powers Activate! Form of...slightly overweight bearded handsome guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James D. Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Wait, I weigh 130 lbs. We couldn't possibly be overweight in our Megazord form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Saw it on Saturday. I give it 5/10 and that's being generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothian Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I really rather enjoyed it! Full thoughts in the next CR but for simply making the enormity of the GL universe understandable to folks who aren't all that familliar with it, it did a very good job. Not without flaws, but I'll enjoy the debate whenever it occurs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Blake Lively was damn hot in this btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 It's a shame they cut out the ring's search for the next Lantern. Originally they had it going around the planet "judging" people, including Clark Kent and Guy Gardner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 5 lessons for Hollywood coming out of Green Lantern in The Hollywood Reporter Warner Bros. and comic book movie fans are reeling after the poor opening weekend performance of Green Lantern, which was to serve as a cornerstone for a line of DC Comics-based films to rival those of Marvel. Lantern collected a lower-than-expected $53 million domestically, and a 22 percent drop from Friday to Saturday indicated poor word-of-mouth. Warners insiders say that the $200 million-budgeted movie needed to open at least in the $60 million range for the studio to move forward with a sequel, for which it has already committed to a script by Michael Goldenberg. Even before the greenish dust has settled, here are five things that went wrong. 1. It's about a singular voice Readers connect with comic books through original stories by writers and artists: For Green Lantern, it could be stories from the 1970s, by Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams or, more recently, by Geoff Johns. These people offer a vision and direction. The same rule applies to movies. When you watch Christopher Nolan's recent Batman movies, or even this summer's X-Men: First Class or Thor, you feel like there is a singular vision behind them. PHOTOS: Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively at the 'Green Lantern' Premiere In contrast, critics pounced on the generic, paint-by-numbers feel of the Lantern movie, which played like dozens of people were in control. And they were. In addition to director Martin Campbell, producer Donald De Line and DC executive Johns, four separate screenwriters were credited, and insiders say that even Warners execs Jeff Robinov, Greg Silverman and Lynn Harris were heavily involved, especially in the editing stage. PHOTOS: Summer Blockbuster Guide 2. Special effects can be your Kryptonite A lot of blame is going to fall on Campbell. Having launched the stints of two James Bond actors (Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye and Daniel Craig in Casino Royale) and made the great adventure movie The Mask of Zorro, Campbell specializes in gritty, on-the-ground action. But Lantern is about a man who becomes part of an intergalactic police force, and Campbell has almost no experience in that sci-fi realm. A $200 million summer tentpole shouldn't be on-the-job training. STORY: FX Acquires 'Green Lantern,' 'Mr. Popper's Penguins' Plus, Warners underestimated the scope of the special effects, whose costs began to skyrocket when it was decided that the Green Lantern suit would be created digitally. The complex effects work, combined with the decision to convert the film to 3D, added months to the production schedule, preventing early marketing and test screenings, which could have helped to hone the film. 3. Be like Marvel Part of Warners' problem is the way it has structured DC Entertainment. The studio created the subdivision in 2009 to better plan its franchises. But DC remains subservient to Warners in many ways, with its execs being more "suggestors" than anything else. STORY: 'Green Lantern' Reaction: What Moviegoers are Saying on Twitter Marvel, on the other hand, has an autonomous movie division in Marvel Studios. Run by Kevin Feige, it has continually demonstrated an understanding of its core audience -- the comic book fans -- and how to parlay that intense base into a broader audience of regular moviegoers. From Iron Man to Thor, it has made movies that appeal to fanboys and average moviegoers alike. At Warners, it's the studio division that says yes or no to DC projects, and it can change them up however it sees fit. Last summer's Jonah Hex was a box-office disaster, and even Warners' quasi-DC movies Watchmen and V for Vendetta failed to lure more than hard-core fanboys. You don't have to be a geek to make these movies, but you need to know what geeks like and, more importantly, how to translate that into accessible themes. STORY: 'Green Lantern's' Blake Lively: How to Get Her Look 4. Don't be like Marvel Marvel has a clear plan: Take a core group of characters (Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Captain America) and weave them into a series of movies that lead to one big team-up (next summer's The Avengers). It works for fans and allows moviegoers not familiar with the Marvel Universe to be indoctrinated. Green Lantern was to have been the first step toward making a movie featuring the Justice League, DC's all-star collection of superheroes. But what worked for Marvel may not for DC, which in its publishing history established the connections within its universe only after Marvel had already done the same for its world. DC should be blazing its own path. Heroes like Superman are more iconic, more primal and elemental, more akin to the Greek gods than their conflicted counterparts in the Marvel universe. DC superheroes are our modern-day Hermes, the god of speed, or Hercules, the demigod son of Zeus. They can stand alone. 5. Cloud villains don't work Didn't anyone get the memo after 2007's Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer? That movie changed the long-standing comics villain Galactus from a giant humanoid into a big black cloud, and was ridiculed. Parallax in Lantern looks like another demonic black cloud, and that design was a misstep. Neither audiences nor the Green Lantern can wrap their arms around him -- he's just another smoke monster escaped from the island on Lost. Superhero Screenwriting 101: If audiences don't care about the villain, they won't care about the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I just finished it. It was good, but nothing special. I'd rank it the same as X-Men first class, and Daredevil for that matter, all three are enjoyable, but they are also average at best. Hector was creepy as fuck, and the idea behind Parralax was interesting, and Ryan Reynolds after the first introduction scene, was actually quite good in the role. This film needed more Sinestro, and I hope it does get a sequel, just to see more of Sinestro. One other thing, the movie masters collect and connect Parralax looks fuck all like the Parralax in the actual film, and that end fight, was a bit of a letdown, it just sort of ends. Did anyone else get a Power Rangers: The movie vibe from the ending, with taking the fight into space, and knocking the monster into an asteroid/sun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Spoilers ahead, so if you haven't seen it yet too bad. Things that were changed from the original script that really hurt the movie: 1. There was more of a team vibe in it originally, where the movie turned out to be a "Hal saves the universe alone" story. I don't know why the Corps was even there since they didn't do anything except train Hal for 30 seconds. 2. The whole fight with Parallax originally took place on Oa with the whole Green Lantern Corps fighting against it with the central battery getting destroyed. It turned into "Hal fights Parallax alone on earth". 3. Hal's dad's death is shown in full as he loses control of his jet during an air show. He heroically stays in the jet to make sure it clears the crowd and dies in the crash while young Hal watches. In the movie it's a confusing series of flashbacks where he crashes the plane into the tower and it blows up while sitting on the ground. 4. There was a scene where the ring searched the Earth for the next Green Lantern and it passed a guy with glasses outside the Daily Bugle, and hesitates at a football coach with the name Gardner on his jersey. 5. Carol doesn't know Hal is Green Lantern until the end which causes him to realize how bad a person he is to her. As GL he can give her whatever she wants, but she wants Hal who just lets her down all the time. In the movie she recognizes him right away which is funny, but kills the story. 6. Hector is a lot stronger and more dangerous, and every Green Lantern comes to Earth to fight him. Hal beats him the same way but he ends up catatonic, not dead since it's explained that the Corps doesn't kill. In the movie, Hector is the secondary baddie who gets killed by the main villain. 7. Hal saves Carol without his powers because his ring is depleted, and it shows him as both a hero and not letting her down(which is a theme of their story). 8. Amanda Waller's part was originally a government agent named Pipe, that turned out to be Golden Age GL Alan Scott. He mentions to Hal that he once wore a ring like his, but it wasn't his to keep. 9. While Sinestro wants to make a yellow ring from Parallax, he never gets the chance. In the movie that end scene is just there for the fanboys as they never really explain why they ended up making the ring since Hal defeated Parallax by himself before they ever had to fight it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 8. Amanda Waller's part was originally a government agent named Pipe, that turned out to be Golden Age GL Alan Scott. He mentions to Hal that he once wore a ring like his, but it wasn't his to keep. Probably changed because Alan Scott is too big a badass to be reduced to a bit part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 8. Amanda Waller's part was originally a government agent named Pipe, that turned out to be Golden Age GL Alan Scott. He mentions to Hal that he once wore a ring like his, but it wasn't his to keep. Probably changed because Alan Scott is too big a badass to be reduced to a bit part. It wasn't a bit part. He was actually the guy telling the story. Well, let me rephrase that. He was the voice you hear at the beginning and end telling the world about the Green Lanterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Know Who Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Green Lantern vs. the Critics, Parts 1 and 2: Thought these would interest y'all. For those of you who don't follow ItsJustSomeRandomGuy's videos, Deadpool hates Green Lantern because he stole Ryan Reynolds from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted June 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 The movie is officially a bomb. It lost 65% of it's ticket sales this week and has only made $89 million so far. It cost $200 million to make. It's not doing any better overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Totals put it at $118 million overall. I think its success now will depend on its merchandise sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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