Missy Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Tony Daniel is doing a fill-in on Justice League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Well, Daniel isn't an awful artist, so, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I'm still hanging on DC-wise, but I'm down to Batwoman, and Wonder Woman - which I'm only checking out for a couple of issues. To be honest, I'll probably drop both of those pretty soon. Huh. If I do that, I won't be collecting any Marvel or DC titles for the first time since I started reading comics back in the (very) early 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobob_100 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Wonder Woman is damn good I think you should keep with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashfan1 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 fucking finally they're doing something with the Joker... and Snyder's the guy doing it... This should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFetch Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I stopped reading these things after week 4. What's the general consensus on the reboot? Flop or hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Either one would be a huge exaggeration. There's large chunk of crap books and a large chunk of good books. Considering that most books have only gone through one complete story arc as of yet, we'll still need to wait a good while before things start to conform to any standard of quality, and even then, another few years before you could judge the reboot as a whole. It is an entire fictional universe, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 From a business/sales perspective, the bump in sales has largely plateaued. Most books are close to what they were selling before the relaunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koete Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 BATMAN, INCORPORATED #5 Written by GRANT MORRISON Art and cover by CHRIS BURNHAM Variant cover by FRAZER IRVING 1:00 B&W Variant cover by CHRIS BURNHAM On sale OCTOBER 24 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T Combo pack edition: $3.99 US Retailers: This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for more information. • Return to the future world seen in BATMAN #666, where Damian has taken over the mantle of the Bat! • The whole world has gone mad. The only sane people left are in Arkham Asylum – where Batman is the warden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Awesome! Batman 666 was my favourite issue by Morrison, very excited for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylerQ91 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Has anybody been reading Green Arrow since Ann Nocenti started writing it? I'm seriously thinking of dropping the book even though it's one of the few monthly books I make a point to buy and GA is one of about my top three favourite DC heros along with Superman and Nightwing. Nocenti does not seem to understand who Ollie IS. Not in the way he speaks, acts or thinks. The stories she is trying to tell come across as all over the place, boring, clumsy and heavy handed. Here first ark was finished by GA getting kidnapped, away and kidnapped again for filler and yet the interesting ideas are glossed over or dispatched with as quickly as they came. Issue #11 brought a Occupy Wall Street inspired story that seems dated already and like I was being ranted at by people who may have some good points but are going about it all wrong, much like Mike said kids at the school he works at do. Also even though she has Ollie say the Dark Arrows as they are called should not be trying to set him on fire and stealing from a charity he does not seem to have a view stated on the issue they are debating in the fight. Ollie has been liberal for a long, LONG time and will still be one as the series moves on but my god, why is the political message not coming from him and why does the comic yet feel more like a pamphlet with a retractable stick with the message printed on it to beat it into your head? From what I can see of her past work I assume she can tell a good story as well as make her politics known. She has a lot of fans saying she can do just that, so why is it so off here? I'm really getting quite sad with the series right now and if it were not for the Arrow TV show coming up I'd expect it to get canned soon too. Is it too early to get somebody new on again or to ask J.T. Krul back? -Skyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stavros Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Since JT Krul is my least favourite writer I hope not. I mean, I've got about 10 GA trades on my shelf and that book was dead to me for a couple of years or so before the reboot, but JT Krul is never the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Fuck. I saw Frazer Irving in the title and thought they finally got rid of Burnham. Gah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkylerQ91 Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Since JT Krul is my least favourite writer I hope not. I mean, I've got about 10 GA trades on my shelf and that book was dead to me for a couple of years or so before the reboot, but JT Krul is never the answer. He was never a terrific writer but I never felt bad that I paid for an issue before. -Skyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 BATMAN, INCORPORATED #5 Written by GRANT MORRISON Art and cover by CHRIS BURNHAM Variant cover by FRAZER IRVING 1:00 B&W Variant cover by CHRIS BURNHAM On sale OCTOBER 24 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T Combo pack edition: $3.99 US Retailers: This issue will ship with three covers. Please see the order form for more information. • Return to the future world seen in BATMAN #666, where Damian has taken over the mantle of the Bat! • The whole world has gone mad. The only sane people left are in Arkham Asylum – where Batman is the warden! It'd be better if they were able to get Andy Kubert to draw the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc20willsave Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Interesting interview with Grant Morrison. Among other things, Grant Morrison is leaving Action Comics after issue 16 and Batman Inc after #12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuaveStar Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Interesting interview with Grant Morrison. Among other things, Grant Morrison is leaving Action Comics after issue 16 and Batman Inc after #12. The Batman Inc part, was already known, he should have just ended his Batman run with Batman & Robin, his Batman stuff after that was just, stale. However, Action Comics is interesting. Has anyone been reading his run, and how has it been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's kinda crappy. It started off great, but now it wanders between "really good" and "so off the rails it's unrecognizable at best." Worst of all is that it's done little-to-no actual world-building for Superman. I still don't really know what motivates this version of Superman or who he really cares about. He's had almost no scenes with Lois and Jimmy; I don't even know if Lois is supposed to be his love interest in this story. It's made harder to tell because Morrison's doing his "non-traditional dialogue" thing, so no one talks like a normal person. It's all in forced declaratory sentences that are phrased oddly. It's actually on a nice quality upswing at the moment (doing a "Death of Clark Kent" arc). I hope it stays this good until the end, but I'm not really sure it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Perez was mentioning in a lot of his interviews that editorial's been pretty fucked on consistency within these books, to the point that he didn't know what was going on with Action. I imagine they're doing something similar with Morrison, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightWing Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I actually think Morrison (and DC's unwillingness to reign him in) is the problem. Morrison's basically done whatever he wanted to do with Action, and unfortunately since that involved basically no solid world-building, there wasn't a foundation for Perez to work off of. And since DC basically gave Morrison the keys to the Supermanmobile and didn't ask where he was going or what he was doing, now everything's in a messy (or really just vague and undefined) place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Pretty spot-on analysis, Knightwing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I can imagine the meeting. "All Star Superman sold really well, put Grant on Action Comics." "You know he's crazy, right?" "I have a live trout in my underpants. Let's see him outcrazy that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venneh Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Liefeld's out, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I keep meaning to see what he's doing with Hawkman. Liefeld seems like a good fit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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